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I Have A Question - Poly vs. Open - [quote=PAIRPLAYERS][quote=EVILDOERS]Thanks for the responses so far. I thought of a couple of additional questions. Are you seeking, finding and connecting with other open/poly people here on Swingular or are you finding people thru other means? Also, do you find that most of the people you connect with are single or are they in their own primary relationships? Does it matter much to you if they are single or coupled?[/quote] Great question. Almost exclusively non swinger community singles surprisingly. Have tried amongst the swingers but they seem to have a very quid pro quo mentality. [/quote] Yes, they do! We noticed that dynamic almost immediately when we first entered the lifestyle and were actually talking about it just today in the context of no quid pro quo being a distinct positive in the column of open or poly lifestyles vs. swinging. SO many times when I was even just TALKING to a woman her partner or husband would basically go grab Ms. Evil, no matter what she was doing or who she was talking to, and assume it was perfectly okay to just do more or less whatever he wanted. After all, I was doing something/anything with HIS partner! Wow! Great responses everyone. SO informative! Thank-you.

The statistics of swinging - Relationship longevity in the lifestyle. - One thing we've noticed (and even had a few close calls with ourselves) is that, once the initial thrill of swinging/swapping wears off a little bit, many people look for the NEXT big thrill...usually separate play. And THAT, if you're not really prepared for it and don't go into it with your eyes wide open, is when things can get really sticky. I have an acquaintance in the lifestyle who is a professor of physiology who likes to talk at length about the "love hormone", oxytocin, and how powerful it can be in some lifestyle circumstances. I guess a subset of this issue might be how many swingers who break up do so because they fall in love with someone else in the lifestyle. One particularly insidious behavior that we've, unfortunately, encountered are men, both single AND married, in the lifestyle who attempt to ply Ms. Evil by saying things like, "If you were mine I would never want to share you.". There are probably a fair number of women (and probably men) who might be susceptable to that type of talk if they're insecure in their primary relationship.

Taking one for the team - Put a picture of your male half in your profile! - [quote=EVILDOERS]First of all, NOBODY should fuck someone they don't want to fuck. Having said that, though, we've found that "taking one for the team" is usually somewhat relative. It seems to quite often be the case that if you actually LOOK hard enough for attractive qualities in other people you are apt to find them. At least one or two qualities! LOL We've almost never encountered another couple where one of us was attracted to one of them and their partner was completely unattractive. I guess if someone is reasonably attractive they're pretty unlikely to end up with someone who isn't attractive at all. But we've also found (and yes, we're guilty of this sometimes as well) that many people sort of get in their own way, so to speak, when it comes to looking for people to play with and, often, almost look for reasons NOT to play and, in effect, end up talking themselves out of playing. When we first started in the lifestyle it was FAR more labor-intensive (no internet swingsites) to look for other couples and there were far fewer swingers as well so if you were extremely picky you pretty much didn't ever actually end up playing. By the time most people jumped through all the hoops you had to jump thru to find other couples most people were pretty predisposed to playing, unless they were really turned off for some reason. Now, it seems like there are just so many options, literally right at our fingertips, that perhaps it's just a little too easy to keep swiping left...always looking for the bigger, better deal. Again, don't fuck someone you really don't want to fuck but also, maybe, consider digging just a little deeper and see if you can't find something compelling about a person that could lead to a really great time in bed. What's that old saying about sex and pizza? [em]Emo_70[/em] [/quote] Very well stated EVILDOERS.

Fantasy - Looking for help... - Honestly, one of the best resources/communities... for anything, but especially alternative lifestyles is reddit. check out these forums. https://www.reddit.com/r/Swingers/ https://www.reddit.com/r/polyamory/ https://www.reddit.com/r/nonmonogamy Good luck. Wish I was a single woman 90% of the time.

Advertising your self - Do it like You would a house or car - If your job is at the stake you are not getting paid for that anyway. Most swingers are willing to comfort you and greet your hole (Well your wife's hole) with a kiss if your ward or stake finds out and you get excommunicated. Think of all the money you will have to buy naughty school girl outfits and a camera to take pictures once you no longer have to pay your 10%. We saw Oozing Pustules as the lead off band for Jack Off Jill. They sucked!

Auto Dtetail - - Hello to all fellow Swingers here in the Utah area! Work has been a lil slow for me, so figured why not post here in the classifieds like others have! I have a Auto Detail Buisness, My rates are the best you will see if you research prices in are area! Im set up to have people come to me, or I can be mobile and come to you!!! I do complete Details, and Partial's, It is the begining of summer, and everyone luvs to have there ride looking good, and get all the winter crud off of them! Send me a email or can txt/call and i can quote you out a price!! 801-690-5282/ 208-223-0627 16 years experiance, Low overhead so Low prices!!!! This week special!!! 6/1/12 to 6/8/12::::: Buff and wax onlY $29.99 To get you ready for the sun and heat, Cars/small Trucks $82.50 Full size Trucks/SUV $92.50 Vans/Suburban $97.50 These prices include bumper to bumper/Inside out!! Engine-caprets-Full Interior-buff-wax-wheels ect.... Also do Boats/RV/Trailers call for pricing!! U can come to me in Roy, or I can come to you, your home/office ect.....

Button Up Tonight - - Is buttons up still open? Especially to the swingers? I haven't been there, we are looking for a fun place to go.

Where on Earth are all the hot Virginia Swingers? - Show us what you have to offer VA!!! - Is this a role call.........lol

Age - New to the swingers community - is age a factor in how a couple is viewed? - I know

Other Swinger sites in Utah - Anyone tell us of other sites? - [quote=SUENDAN]Here are the sites we use and our username there. Look us up and we'll show you around (couples only) swinglifestyle.com 2NParadisse. They offer lifetime membership. One of the best sites ever for USA and Canada, eh? aff.com 2NParadisse and DanNSuzy. If you sing up as a couple your membership will turn into a gold membership after about a month. Don't spend your money there on memberships, just wait until your profile turns into a gold profile and you'd have access to everything. We've been there since 1998 lol. Still a very good site, always evolving and we meet new people there often. Met our first couple there. Good globally also a few profiles from Mars. sdc.com FlorDCanela. I think this site is best for the East Coast. We meet people there occasionally. U have to pay. kasidie.com 2NParadisse. not our cup of tea but sometimes good for party info. Some people in SoCal swear by it. reddit.com the swingersr4r and other subreddits FunMachina. We had been super lucky there for over a year meeting couples in their 20's lol. This is a free and unexploited gem. In Spain we used onswingers.com FlorDCanela. very good but limited to Spain and is in Spanish. UK/Europe c4fonline.com - not so good for us when we were in Spain. fling.com some people contacted us from there once. Locanto.com kinda like what CL used to be. Not much going on there. Weirdos. https://www.newbienudes.com/ has some potential. I just have not looked into it yet because we always have something going on when we decide to get out and play. Regular dating apps like tinder, kindle.. you can open a profile of your lady seeking other ladies, just say that you are married and hubby wants to join too. And then... Bingo! You entered the Unicorn Realm! Also non website nor non swinger party contacts: Just take your lady to a strip joint and have her make friends with the girls. This works good in SoCal where girls are less professional. Could work in Vegas but good luck, they are real hustlers there. Also, the wife and I were on a non-swingers date the just 2 of us, went to have a beer and play pool. This other couple was checking us out. We started chatting normally and pleasantly. The girl told me my wife was very cute. So, I told the girl, "my wife just said the same about you, how funny!" Ended up MFMF later at their place. UPDATES: Lifestylelounge.com: use it if is free. otherwise not worth a penny. old profiles, abandoned page. trueswingers.com review coming soon. bisexualplayground.com met a couple there once. Not sure if still up. alt.com seen it looks like whips and chains stuff. Gone but not forgotten: Craigslist Personals. Those were good to meet couples but tons of weirdos. SwingDater.com met a long term couple there. playersxchange.com a buddy's site. gone. swingerads.com We don't do much apps. [/quote]Wow how do you manage being on all those?