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Appropriate Parameters of Sexual Conduct in Modern Society - Should sex still have a unique status or just be another hobby? - Beard, You did open something up but I'm not sure what.
I had to copy and paste your original here so I didn't miss or get too confused..
One of your last points first: Moral refers to standards as defined by the church, the government or your neighbors(in light of the Supreme Court decission a few years ago about porn) Ethics, on the other hand are something that we define for ourselves based on our upbringing/environment and values that we have defined based on whatever we base them on.
You are right that marriage is a concept designed by religion and the government for the care of offspring and the clear definition of linage for property rights. You use the term marriage, which is a legal term like it is a moral imperative then ask if it should be based on some one or group of common interrests. Then the next breath you suggest that marriage is supposed to be more than any of that and something to do with sharing and intimacy. Finally you go back to somehow trying to make a point, (I'm not sure what that point was) that maybe there should be a conglomerate of reasons for marriage then with the nesxt breath you ask if sex should be forbidden..
Now lets see if this makes any sense to anyone. I'm poly and We swing. I have a lover who is married and her husband knows or us(he is not poly) and B knows of us and we are all good friends. We are, my lover and I, intimate both emotionally and sexually and both non poly mates knowof this. B and I are very much soulmates but then my lover is also very close to that as well. I do not wish to take her away from her husband and I do not wish to replace B. She does not want to replace her husband with me and we are alll OK with that arrangement.
In my heart of heart I am married to both in a very intimate way although I do not wish to procreate with anyone anymore. She feels the same way toward me. I would submit that marriage is an intimate, emotional and sometimes physical union of people.. I did not say two people I said people. We have been taught sex as a negative thing and relationships with more than one as a negative thing because we cannot love more than one person or more than one at any one time... I submit that we can love more than one and that the more we love the more we get back from that...
Swinging is started off as fun between close friends and sometimes the term wife swapping became a reality.... Sex is fun adn swinging is about sex and today alot of times about relationships. Relationships in my opinion are for the benefit of everyone involved... .
So I'm not sure if I understood where you were going but this is my take on the propositions as I understood them.
Depending on any person's opinion or preferences sex and love can be the same or they can be separate or they can be coincidental but it's basically up to that person or couple to make that determination....
We, in the lifestyle, may ultimately be right and marriage may change to a more contractual thing rather than some sacrosanct BS that it has become.... Swingers as a group have more than 3.4 time greater chance of remaining married than that of non swingers. The range of failed marriages is between 66 and 77% in all first and second marriages and some 70% of all married people cheat on their mates. Swinger have a better than 85% chance of marriage survival. Cheating is not exempt in Swinging but I think is is greatly reduced...
I think as swingers we have sex with friends and it can be just that or it can be more... at least for me..
Meet and Greet Interest - Meet and greet - Dies anyone know of an active swingers group in Southern Idaho? Magic Valley, (Twin Falls, Burley, Pocatello )
Swingfest - Hollywood Florida! - We are going to Swingfest 08 and are counting down the days to when 10,000 Naked, Joyful and Partying Swingers will converge upon Hollywood Florida to have more fun than most have ever dreamed of. Life is Really Good. Hope to see many of you there. Nancy & Tom
College Students - Adults going to school - Going to Slcc and having a great time. just curious if others here are going to school or going back to school, lets meet up for lunch or coffee, why cant swingers go to school....let me know
PLEASURE PALACE PARTY 10-9 - HOLLYWOOD DRESS UP PARTY DO U LOOK LIKE SOMEONE FAMOUS? - THANKS . I AM GLAD U LIKE THE PAINTINGS . U CAN GO TO SWINGERS OF AMERICA.COM AND SELL ALL THE PICS FROM THIS PARTY AND SOME OTHERS .DONT FORGET TO LEAVE YOUR NAUGHTY COMMENTS .
I WANTED TO THANK EVERYBODY THAT CAME OUT TO PLEASURE PALACE THIS SAT NIGHT . IT WAS A GREAT PARTY !!!!!!! LOTS OF FUN . LOTS OF NEW MEMEBERS.I HOPE EVERYBODY HAD FUN ......SEE YA AT THE NEXT PARTY !!!!!!
NAUGHTY DREAMS
FREAKY KITTY
Where we focus our attention - Chill out Scully! The sex is out there! - You take a great point of view about swingers and their attitude towards others. Of course most swingers would not discuss politics or religion when attempting to create a sexy adventure with others. I mean why create a situation for disagreement...nothing sexy in that. Perhaps swingers are more respectful of others as they would wish to be treated that way also. We have wonderful swinger friends that we disagree with politically yet it never seems to dampen our interactions.
There are circumstances where anger can add something to a sexual encounter but not often. Maybe revenge sex (very nice indeed), make up sex or break up sex can turn an angry situation into a sexy situation but not often.
Its all about attitude and what you hope to accomplish, for us its fun and happy swinging adventures. No disaggreement or contention just respectful people looking for some fun.
Where are the Houston Swingers - Is anyone from the Houston area actually using this site? - So we have been on this site for a while and we have met several couples in the Salt Lake City area on here. We never can seem to get any response from Houston couples. Its almost like they dont even use the site to hook up with others. Maybe its us but something tells me the site just is not doing much in the Houston area.
We are wanting to host small intimate parties - - [quote=UTCPL]Wow, the amount of emails we have received I
think maybe we will just rent the convention
center. Whoever is interested send us an email.
also thinking maybe we should organize some kind
of regular play party & rent out a block of rooms
somewhere. Anybody want to talk about that mail us.
The whole idea was to get away from the meet n greet
& just do what everybody really wants & have a play
party. [/quote]
That sounds like what we've started doing here on this side of the river.
You want to come sit and BS that's fine. But we're going to get naked and do what real swingers do. Believe it or not, some people are actually shocked by that.
Rolling??? - Thoughts Comments - I'm not taking anything wrong, I just noticed this sort of strange attitude about things when i was looking at an interracial thread. People were trying to convince others that interracial relationships and swinging were morally wrong and a major health risk, and it kinda made me think. I think it's great that everyone has talked about this. A lot of people, swingers included use drugs and I think it needs to be brought up, good or bad.
And I want to say also, that I really apppreciate everyone taking the time out to post about it. And I thank you.
Which Motorcycle Survey? - In the market and want your opinion... - Oh, I have strong thoughts on this subject folks. And I am really doing my homework and shopping very thoroughly. I'm taking my time because I won't be buying until Feb/Mar at the earliest. And I've been watching the Can-Am develop over the past 3 years now. One of our nearby dealers carries them alongside Big Dog Choppers and Suzuki. Interesting line-up.
It's not that what others think will make my decision or unduely influence it, but I am interested in reading others' opinions and thoughts to compare to my own. And I'm checking with a few different demographic groups. Let's face it: swingers tend to march to the beat of their own drum more than most folks! LOL
I brought up the "cool factor" and image stuff in the context of what our own perceptions are of bike culture. I mentioned that we are cruiser types, not crotch-rocket people. I wear western style riding boots and a black leather jacket. But my jacket has armor inserts, all the modern upgrades, and even reflective piping on a traditional cruiser jacket frame. I wear a Bell military-style open face helmet and goggles. My wife rides a blacked out (Raven) 2011 Star Stryker. So we sort of blend the old w/the new a bit. I guess I'm hesitant about the style change.
Thanks for the input and please keep it coming. You're helping me cogitate. LOL
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