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KUTV News Story on Swingers - News - This was typical for what passes as journalism in the great state of Utah. Heidi Hatch appears to be a shill for the Mormon church, or just a bad journalist. Based on my views of the quality of news reporting in Utah, and the influence of the church locally, I will go with both.
One concern this story brings up is the level of scrutiny now on the community in Utah and what the the laws surrounding playing and public parties are, especially where on-premises sex is permitted. I can see our own home-grown morality police trying to force their version of reality on the rest of the population and seek to stop these parties from happening.
Anyone know the laws around Utah for these things?
Help With Wife - Wife has fantasies but is super hesitant to experiment. - Personally I think you might be a little too eager (can't blame you, we all were when we started) and pushing just a little too hard to make her fantasy a reality. Rather than trying to find a way to get around the "Catch 22" of her fantasy maybe just explore it more verbally and see if it evolves into some kind of scenario that she is comfortable with that more easily can happen in the real world.
The most successful swingers we know, ourselves included, arrived at where they are by being open and supportive of each other's fantasies and desires without forcing them in any way. In other words, be patient, explore your fantasies verbally and maybe role play, a LOT, with each other before you jump into anything that either of you isn't quite ready for.
You might be surprised as you fantasize openly and honestly how your fantasies might evolve and become something that you eventually can and will make a reality. You know your wife better than anyone and maybe she does need a little nudge but most of the swingers we've known over the years who've crashed and burned did so because one partner pushed the limits too fast and didn't wait for the more hesitant partner to catch up. In our case we were quite surprised and what our fantasies morphed into when we really dug deep and talked about the truly deviant (by local standards anyway-lol) aspects of our fantasies.
Sorry, I know that's probably not the kind of advice you were hoping for but it's been our observation over a rather lengthy swinging career. Another thought, if you're bound and determined to make your first swinging experience a MFM, is to find a guy who is okay with just watching you two play or maybe getting involved in some soft swinging...i.e. back rubs and or touching but no intercourse. We were soft swap for the first year or two of our swinging life and it was great fun and took the pressure off until we were ready to take the next step. Best of luck!
edit- Sorry about what now seems like a long rambling response. In my defense it was pre-coffee. [em]Emo_79[/em]
Willing To Earn It??? - We're willing to play...but... - You need to stick to what you believe in & what works for you. There are lots of different types of swingers out there. Some like to dive into a dark room with a bunch of naked bodies that they can't even see & go to town. Others just about want to know your whole life story & be reassured 9 different ways to Sunday before the clothes start to come off. Most are somewhere in between. The right ones for you are out there somewhere. You just need to find them. Look on the bright side. You know what you are looking for. That's a good start.
what the f#%@ was he thinking? - swingers still deserve respect - Seems that some guys mistake swinging sites like this for porn sites. Too many stag movies and not enough time in social situations with others to develop any manners. It really is in poor taste but on the other hand the poor taste is to be expected from time to time and isn't worth traveling to beat on someone...
STD testing and physicians - who and where - The Utah Aids Foundation in Sugarhouse does walk in testing Mondays and Thursdays. They test for HIV (rapid results, you get them before you leave the clinic), and chlamydia and gonorrhea for free. The chlamydia/gonorrhea are just urine for the free tests, and since they are localized infections, paying for the self collect oral/anal tests are worth it as well ($25/each), as people frequently have those without realizing and while testing clean with their urine tests. My one complaint with there is that they take a while to get results (about a week) and I felt a little talked down to when they pull you into a room to talk about safe sex and using condoms; however, that is a small price to pay for the service you are getting.
While, as swingers, those are the two big ones to worry about, it is worth also going to your family physician to get tested for a full panel every few months (I do every 6/8 months for the full panel), since they aren't as common but can still affect people.
If you need something quickly and want to avoid paying too much, the best experience I have had is actually at the Salt Lake County Health Department near downtown (http://slco.org/health/std-clinic/testing-treatment/). They charge per test, and they are the least judgmental and most sex-positive place I've found. The only downside is that they don't take insurance, so it doesn't count against your deductible, and getting an appointment can be hard, but they do take walk ins.
Safe sex is fun sex, team! Let's all slut it up like crazy but keep it safe. We all have an obligation to police ourselves, and if something happens, take care of that shit!
Meeting new swingers? - Where to meet them? - I just have to say that this is the third chance I am giving to the internet, everytime I have tried one of these websites I have left disapointed. I have found more real people at the local clubs then online. maybe I am just jaded from being stood up a few times, but I just feel I would rather get to know another couple in person,after several no shows I just don\'t belive in the internet.
Swingers In Uniform - Pay your memorial day respects here. - Thanks Cutie... You guys are sexy as hell... PERIOD! :p
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BADGIRL_INUT wrote:
A great big heart-felt thanks to all of those of you who spend their day in uniform wearing our countries flag.
Thanks!
As for the Juan character... He is digging himself a big ass hole. Not too much anyone can add to his own stupidity and misinformed, assumed comments. Keep opening that hole under your nose Juan, show the rest of this community just how big of an asshole you are...
TequilaRose, Great job, and sexy as hell in that uniform too!
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What really defines a TRUE swinger? - - ok so what would you classify someone who was considered a swinger by some for 10 years but now that im single does that revoke my swingers card because i am no longer married?....just trying to figure out where all of us that fit into this category falls into for all of you that choose to define someone
Listing of LS group travel and dates - - Does anyone here end up having sex with people you meet while on vacation without it being a swingers resort and with people you met in some manner non swinger specific? We have been there and done that a few times but we still haven't dedicated any travel time to a swingers resort. We have heard great things about Desire. We have heard that at Hedo there are quite a few really drunk people and some overly persistant single guys that will follow you if it looks like you've hooked up with another couple. We have also heard that no means no has to be reiterated at Hedo but that at desire people seem to just know how to behave. Obviously the people that are there when you go will do a lot to form your impression of the resort. If we are going to go on a vacation with swinging being our primary reason for going we are going to be much more concerned with who we might meet than we would be with the food or accommodations. Whereas anyone that buys a travel package can show up and try and get involved aren't you a bit vulnerable if a real creeper shows up? We are not horribly picky but there are some sorts of people you just do not want around when sex is a possibility. We aren't talking about their bodies. We just don't want to deal with a belligerent drunk or some sociopath while we are naked. How do you handle that? Is there any particular resort that either attracts a nicer, safer type of crowd or that provides some level of security and safety while still allowing for a sex friendly environment? We would pay more to be around the right sort of people.
Swingers Next Door! - ABC news story on Swinging! - [quote=SEXYANDFREE]Check this out. Also watch many videos that follow this! http://abcnews.go.com/Lifestyle/swingers-door-married-couples-ohio-neighborhood-spice-neighbors/story?id=29759877[/quote]
The videos didn't play for me. Have they been removed?
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