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Best swinger friendly club in Vegas??? - Going to Vegas for our anniversary and want to experience the swinger culture away from Utah. - The boyfriend and I are going to Vegas December 12-15. We are newbies to the vegas scene and are looking for advice. What are the best places/clubs for us swingers?
Swingers - a couples only lifestyle? - Are singles considered to be swingers? - The term "swinger" is a label, plain and simple.
I like to think that sexuality is about the moment, not some label.
These days I tend to get pissy when someone refers to me as a "swinger". Its lumping me together with people that are not at all like me.
Swingers - a couples only lifestyle? - Are singles considered to be swingers? - I think over 10 years in the lifestyle qualifies the research. What you're refering to has a lot to being open minded and approach sex as a healthy activity. AGAIN - when you think of the lifestyle and the term "swinging" a single person doesn't fit the description as there is no swapping on both sides.
Traveling - Finding other lifestyle couples while traveling - [quote=SNOEFUN]We are traveling to Atlanta for New Years and was hoping to find some lifestyle couples there[/quote]
Lots 'o swingers in Hotlanta. You could prolly find out if there are some local swingsites there and get like a trial membership announcing your travel plans in your profile header. Just a thought.
Staying a couple in the lifestyle - - Our experience so far:
Religious > naturist > meet naturists/nudists who are swingers > soft swap > non-religious > full swap with couples same room > full swap separate room
Many lifestyle couples we know have followed a very similar path.
The rest of some of their evolution concerns us, especial polyamorous couples, triples, etc.
The tendency seems to be (very generalized) is to date and play separately. If the relationship becomes polyamorous, divorce seems VERY common.
We like having more than physical chemistry. Personality and interests are part of the package, but it is difficult to get an 8 way connection (chemistry between all 4 people).
We actually like the friendships more than playing, so we are comfortable where we are at the moment.
Thoughts?
Is this one of your rules? What is it? is it fear? or something - Does everyone feel this way? - CLASSY:
Good topic! :)
Neither Siren nor myself have set any specific rules about time parameters being met before we'll play with a couple, but as always with many things in life...our playing has it's dynamics and nuances, which are always evolving.
So, to respond to a few of the questions you posed:
Fear of STD's? Not specifically.
Fear of thinking of ourselves as sluts? Absolutely not. Sometimes sluthood is fun!
Fear of others thinking we are sluts? We don't and have never given a patoot about what others think of us.
Values, morals? No way! We are "swingers" after all, and besides...we've both spent our time in an organized "forum" (former mormons), worrying about whether or not we were being "worthy" or if Jesus was happy with us; we're sooo done with that!
Do we have to BBQ before we'll fuck someone? What's the point of that? Besides...sometimes through the interaction of a BBQ you realize, "I really don't wanna boink this person."
If our kids have played together? Nah...children fall outside of the spectrum of the specific lifestyle. They're part of the social nature when we're not swinging with those that we have met during the course of our experiences. It's all good.
Is random sex scary? Well, yes it is...or it CAN be...but especially if you don't practice wisdom and are not reasonable by indulging in indiscriminate sex with EVERYONE you come across. There are some seriously scary-ass people out there! This question is along the same lines as the first question of fear of STD's.
Taboo? Well, hell...yes it is...and I believe that is part of the intrigue; part of the whole mind-game of swinging.
Bottom line: Siren and I have been known to play on first dates, and we've been known to wait a long time, and as can be expected have had a grab-bag of results. We never carry an agenda or ulterior motives (expectations) when we socialize or meet people. We can draw no conclusion using the good vs. bad experiences and if they were a first-time play or not.
We do, however, go with how we feel at any given moment and at any given event. You know...sometimes it just feels right and sometimes, the Mo-Jo is simply not there.
~J~
Swingers Kickball Society - - We are in.
Swingers Party - Doesnt mean who ever is there is open to everyone elsa - first and foremost, boundaries must always be respected and no one ever has the right to do things to another person without their permission.
however, i also acknowledge that at a party where the intention/perception that playing will or is occurring can create some areas of "unknown". it is important to find out what is ok and when it is ok. for some, that means french kissing within the first few minutes, others may not. i have seen different ways that people have tried to find out. the simplest and most direct is to ask. however, i have seen people do so by "testing the waters" - small hug, then a bigger one, then a peck, then a lingering kiss, then french kiss, etc. and at each step trying to "read" the body language of the other.
and i have seen that some people have become so "desensitized" to some of these things that their starting point is further on the scale than others. i dont have a problem with someone trying to open-mouth kiss my wife (even if they have only met for 2 minutes - which she has done with some guys and girls that she was immediately attracted to). i have a problem if they try, she tells them "no", and then they try again. but we go to these parties with the mindset that if there is a mutual interest of the involved parties, then sex is a likely outcome for the evening (unless the party is a "meet-n-greet"). and for us, open-mouth kisses are part of foreplay with our partners. we have even had some parties that we have just "made-out" with some without engaging in sex.
ultimately, it is important to find the common ground of what is acceptable for those involved and being respectful of that. it is also important to politely inform someone when they have crossed a boundary. it is unfair of us to expect that others implicitly know all of our boundaries.
Habits - - hey everyone...
glad you all had fun...
and your right! the meetngreets are as fun as you make them..
to clarify a previous comment...
the meet n greets are not just couples night..
everyone is invited to attend, couples and singles (males and females)
that could explain the single male that pointed out who the swingers were and was dead on..
he could have likely received the same evite as everyone else and or just comes often enough to spot some of us.. some of us are there quite regularly..
The club does have a reputation at this point... it is known that we likeminded people like to hang out there... they receive calls from curious people wanting to join in our fun.. the club employees have introduced us to people like this as they come in and some of them are now members of this site.. (lol wink to those of you that this applies)
i dont see clicks, i see groups of friends that have already met..
we all tend to hang out with friends, everyone does.. thats normal behavior
you must come willing to independantly socialize and introduce yourselves to others..
none of us know everyone and we are all there being busy meeting and greeting others... dancing and just plain having fun.. eventually if you come often enough, you know alot of others and you find your self with alot of new awesome friends :D I know we have!!!
Thanks to all that came!
We look forward to the next one and hope you can all make it.
xoxo
kk
PS People watching is fun too :D
Why are there prostitutes on Swingular? - - I know.. I was just being a smart ass. But it was ME who posted her profile link. ;)
You're welcome to everyone who is using a swinger site to find a sex worker!
I heard that EROS is better for this.. but give swingular a few more months. It might just catch up!!
[quote=Mrnmrsb][quote=ANONYMOUS]I do marketing for a living if anyone wants to hire me. ;)[/quote]
I was referring to the prostitute being a smart business person for using a swingers web site. Because as everyone has pointed out. WAYYYYY TOO MANY SINGLE MEN and not enough single women.[/quote]
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