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KUTV News Story on Swingers - News - Just saw a commercial for KUTV's and the Salvation Army's annual Angel Tree charity for providing Xmas gifts for the poor and needy. Wouldn't it be fun to support this effort by adopting some angels in the name of Utah's swinging community? Hell, we could even provide some kick ass sex toys for some shut in widow or something. I'm betting a few ladies here might know which toys work the best. [em]Emo_12[/em]
Appropriate Parameters of Sexual Conduct in Modern Society - Should sex still have a unique status or just be another hobby? - Beard, You did open something up but I'm not sure what.
I had to copy and paste your original here so I didn't miss or get too confused..
One of your last points first: Moral refers to standards as defined by the church, the government or your neighbors(in light of the Supreme Court decission a few years ago about porn) Ethics, on the other hand are something that we define for ourselves based on our upbringing/environment and values that we have defined based on whatever we base them on.
You are right that marriage is a concept designed by religion and the government for the care of offspring and the clear definition of linage for property rights. You use the term marriage, which is a legal term like it is a moral imperative then ask if it should be based on some one or group of common interrests. Then the next breath you suggest that marriage is supposed to be more than any of that and something to do with sharing and intimacy. Finally you go back to somehow trying to make a point, (I'm not sure what that point was) that maybe there should be a conglomerate of reasons for marriage then with the nesxt breath you ask if sex should be forbidden..
Now lets see if this makes any sense to anyone. I'm poly and We swing. I have a lover who is married and her husband knows or us(he is not poly) and B knows of us and we are all good friends. We are, my lover and I, intimate both emotionally and sexually and both non poly mates knowof this. B and I are very much soulmates but then my lover is also very close to that as well. I do not wish to take her away from her husband and I do not wish to replace B. She does not want to replace her husband with me and we are alll OK with that arrangement.
In my heart of heart I am married to both in a very intimate way although I do not wish to procreate with anyone anymore. She feels the same way toward me. I would submit that marriage is an intimate, emotional and sometimes physical union of people.. I did not say two people I said people. We have been taught sex as a negative thing and relationships with more than one as a negative thing because we cannot love more than one person or more than one at any one time... I submit that we can love more than one and that the more we love the more we get back from that...
Swinging is started off as fun between close friends and sometimes the term wife swapping became a reality.... Sex is fun adn swinging is about sex and today alot of times about relationships. Relationships in my opinion are for the benefit of everyone involved... .
So I'm not sure if I understood where you were going but this is my take on the propositions as I understood them.
Depending on any person's opinion or preferences sex and love can be the same or they can be separate or they can be coincidental but it's basically up to that person or couple to make that determination....
We, in the lifestyle, may ultimately be right and marriage may change to a more contractual thing rather than some sacrosanct BS that it has become.... Swingers as a group have more than 3.4 time greater chance of remaining married than that of non swingers. The range of failed marriages is between 66 and 77% in all first and second marriages and some 70% of all married people cheat on their mates. Swinger have a better than 85% chance of marriage survival. Cheating is not exempt in Swinging but I think is is greatly reduced...
I think as swingers we have sex with friends and it can be just that or it can be more... at least for me..
sh*t swingers say - to preach to the choir - Everyone of those points they made we have heard and said ourselves lol. Makes this life grand!!!
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Game ON....which sign is Hornier...(is that a word?) - zodiac signs of swingers? - another scorp:D
swingers helper... - I know some of us need this every now and again... - What is your sign?
Curious Question - - The reason this website has so many swingers in Utah is probably because it is based here and Rob does a great job of getting people here interested in the lifestyle and this awesome website.
Swingers Party - Doesnt mean who ever is there is open to everyone elsa - WOW!! some people just have no manners... I wouldn't write off the whole club just because of a few bad apples though..
Just our 2 cents
Do your friends and family know about your lifestyle? - - Who knows?
My bro - It wasn't difficult, we mentioned to him that we were going to jackpot, Nevada and he wondered why we would go pretty far in Nevada for our rare vacation days. Anyways, somehow he put the two and two together - figured we did something.
So while Angel and me was talking' to him, my bro was ranting about how morals are insane and that we aren't too uptight about it. I asked how so - "you guys are swingers, ain't you?"
We admitted to it and in process, found out that he had a role in a porno as an boyfriend that helped his girlfriend to be wild, plus a bunch of other stuff.
My boss - Yeah, we were joking around about our wife is hotter and whatnot. Anyways, this was before we were really into swinging. I remembered that angel wondered what it is like to do some bisexual stuff. he knew a girl that's really into doing that and it went from there.
That's about it. Everyone else doesn't know. We're kinda new to this (5 months so far.)
Sexy Couple Seeking Single Female or Male for 3-way Fun! - - Cheating on a spouse goes against everything swingers stand for. We are here to have fun with consenting adults who, if married, do not hide their play from their SO. We, and most everyone else, will not aid someone in their deception which will hurt someone else.
Tooele swingers party 2 - Doing our second party - Depending on my schedule we might be able to attend, message on kik kittybang41 with info.
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