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What is up with Utah?! - Swingers in Utah and nowhere else? - We love all the hot :h Utah swingers they are the best
Are swingers moral? - Who determines what morals are? - [quote=SEAKINGHER]I was raised to believe that morality and the law are the same thing. People, in LDS society anyway, seem to profess that being moral is obeying the law and that is what they teach their children in church. I have always assumed that other religions do the same thing. But what seems to be said here is that swingers feel that the law has little or nothing to do with morality and that we are perfectly willing to break the law for our own pleasure. Is that what we are saying here.[/quote]
Depends on what you are considering law. I think even in the LDS tradition there is an understand that God's law is higher than man's or governments law. A large part of the controversy of LDS polygamy comes because it was in disobedience to the law. Where church leaders believed that following their religious conviction was more important then what U.S. law said. But if you are taking some overarching moral law, like Kants categorical imperative then maybe. I think most swingers have the same ends in mind and no is being used as a means for an end. However that being said, I think most swingers seem to follow a more utilitarian guideline that pleasure is good and what promotes pleasure is good.
Fly-fishing Swingers - New Swingular Group - We're headed for the green river for the 4th of july, to play with our flies, and do a bit of boatin' on the lake too. Say hi if you see us... On the lake we are aboard the "Wet Dream" ;)
Newbies looking for swingers club - - We are new to the lifestyle and want to try it out. We are planning on going to either Sapphire Lounge in Jupiter, FL or Trapeze Club in Ft. Lauderdale, FL on Saturday Sept. 5, 2009 We are looking to hook up with single ladies, so we were wondering which club would be better. Any suggestions? Thanks so much in advance for any responses!
Happy Couple
What is your fantasy for 2008? - Many have made resolutions for 2008, but some of us may have made a resolution to fullfill a fantasy. What's yours? - Happy New Year everyone! May 2008 be filled with fantasies fullfilled and desires satisfied.
Ours would be to find a couple who have the desire to do an "actual" full swap. Me (male) with their fem for a night, day, or whatever of conversation, flirting, eye play, and erotic touching leading up to making passionate love to each other and the same for the other halves of both couples.
It seems that most "open-minded" swingers are threatened by this idea. I know that some of you will say, " but we like watching each other." We do too, but think this experience would be hot.
Anyone out there????
Translating Personals/Swingers Ads - - NWBICPL: Yeah, but at least you can laugh at it. We have to admit, we have had some good laughs over the difference between the profile and who shows up at the meet and greet. You HAVE to just chuckle! Often, it's okay anyway, after you get past the "false advertisement" part.
I'm not sure which description applies to "these are our high school graduation pics" but we're sure there is one!
Difficult in finding Couples or single Males/ Females - - Hawkeye we know what you mean seems as though the cpls you are compatible with always seem to live far away we have plenty of swingers in our part of the country but most think we are too old for them we look in better shape than those who say we are too old lol. Hell we still both snow ski and even do a black run on occasion who is calling who old lol. Wish we lived closer to all of you who have added us to friends list and have said wish we could meet who knows maybe some day we will ski your neck of the woods not meaning you Hawkeye we know you have no snow but if we ever head your direction we will be sure to let you know :-)Good luck in finding close compatible cpls.
Norm&Sharon
Are we really as judgmental as vanilla people? - - Yes, many in the lifestyle are as judgmental as those outside. I am 15 pounds overweight but to some I am as broad ahat comess a battleship. What's more, after 34 years of marriage, 24 of which were in the lifestyle, my wife died. All of a sudden I was persona non grata at the club we attended because single males were not allowed. I had not changed, only my marital status. I have been pilloried and shunned because of being lumped with the FEW young single guys who don't have a clue. Now I have 3 strikes: I'm old, I'm slightly overweight, and single. I've learned these last 9 years that swingers are just as cruel, predjudiced and uncaring as other people. What keeps me going is all those swingers who truely accept me as I am.:z
Christain Swingers? - - I have heard it on the internet though I have never heard a swinger that I have met personally say they are Christains. Maybe I am wrong in thinking this, but I do not believe that Christainity and swinging can mix. I just do not think it is possible. It seems morally impossible. I am no bible philosopher, but I know that there are things stated in the bible that do not point to swinging being accepted by God.
I don't know. That is why I am here. What are your opinions on it? Is it possible? Can you be a Christain and be a swinger? Enquiring minds want to know.
Christain Swingers? - - Great to see this thread going on and not causing anyone to get defensive. That goes to show there are a lot of open minds on this site. I guess it is a part of what it takes to be in this lifestyle.
It is a shame that our society as a whole is not this open minded. I would say, that most people would accept cheating before they would swinging, only because they are used to the double standards in our culture. I find it odd that dishonesty would prevail over the feeling of freedom that truthfulness brings.
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