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Question for women - Bi sex - I dunno, althought communication is key I to was curious about f/f sex but would never go through with the arranging of it myself. I figured if it happened then wonderful but if it was up to me then it would never happen. My husband took the bull by the horns and took me to a club where it was for swingers, of course, I went on my own free will, but he arranged the night out, and made the plans, and didnt tell me a thing till we got there. That way I didnt needta think about it. Although we had talked about it, and he knew that I was willing, but just to shy to ever make the move. I was worried also about reputation because we lived in a small area he took me out of town, which relaxed me a ton. It was fun, and I wasnt mad Iwas excited to go in and glad I didnt haveta make the decision or make the first move towards going through with our fantasy. It was a nice relief. We had a good time and it made me more relaxed for more involvement. Just discuss what she would like to do and ask her if maybe you arranged the meeting all your own so she didnt need to worry bout anything and made it for out of town would she go along with it, and then suprise her if she indicates that it would be okay.

Are swingsites next? - - It seems that the theocratic power structure keeps trying to create a community exclusive to their vision of Zion through the acquisition of real estate. City Creek being their latest venture. It never really works, since fair housing laws make it impossible for anyone to completely eliminate people from buying property not of their faith. Certain communities do seem to gravitate toward certain neighborhoods. Once hipsters, for example start to move into a low price neighborhood, little by little businesses start to arrive that cater to their taste. The thought is that once you start to see the night life, or even the lack thereof, start to reflect certain taste in a neighborhood, then the property becomes more desirable to people who share the same taste. If the people the neighborhood attracts have money to spend the property values go up. I don't know. If swingers started to buy properties in a particular neighborhood, in numbers sufficient, that it affected the community's cash flow, then would it be possible, that the local cafes, coffee shops, bars and such might not all become somewhat swinger friendly without really say it? I know that I have been asked by gay men in a coffee shop, and in the Smith's in the 9th and 9th neighborhood of Salt Lake City if I am gay, and the gentlemen never seem at all worried about asking the question, nor offended when I tell them I am not. The surrounding neighborhood is a bit friendlier to the LGBT community than much of the rest of the city. I don't think a question like that is always a pick up line, but it is a valid question as a point of reference. Why shouldn't someone be able to ask a question like that? If the LGBT community has some areas of town, that are somewhat more of a comfortable safe space, then why not the non-monogamous? Is that happening anywhere?

KUTV News Story on Swingers - News - Yep! We have seen couples dicorce. If you are not 100% in love and sole mates that can date togather then maybe you better check out Ashley Madison or contact your ward bishop! I love my Bob and enjoy our friends and every experience we enjoy or laugh about togather. We like what we like and if you don't like us!!!! Well you are probably needing a little therapy! Lol

Swingers dying out? - Is the utah swinger community dying or becoming to needy? - Oh, I didn't know the OP meant this literally. Yes, we've actually seen quite a few dead and dying swingers by the side of the road especially up around Lava Hot Springs. I think it's probably something in their environment. Maybe ingesting too much nonoxynol-9 or those weird little meatballs in Crockpots you see at most swing parties. Next time we see one we're gonna take it home and try to wash some of the spooge off it's coat with some Dawn dishwashing liquid and nurse it back to health with copious amounts of Red Bull and Jager shots. [em]Emo_67[/em]

The Black Ring - How to spot a swinger - No its not a new disease :-D it's something seen several times regarding spotting your fellow swingers. Here's something going around on a simple way to identify yourself as a swinger. It's simply a black ring. Not going to give a long explanation that's already been done here. http://swapfu.blogspot.com/p/black-ring-right-hand.html?zx=a792a03cce0fab39 Sounds simple and easy you'll see Mr and Mrs playground wearing one at our next outing.

real members? - - WOW DID THIS THREAD TURN FAST . BACK TO THE FIRST POST ABOUT HER AFRAID SOMEONE IS GOING TO BREAK INTO HER HOUSE . YES IAM SURE IT CAN HAPPEN . BUT I DOUBT VERY MUCH THAT IS FOR THEMOST PART ANYONES PLANS . BUT LIKE SOMEONE ELSE SAID U TAKE THAT CHANCE EVERY TIME U LEAVE THE HOUSE . GET AN ALARM OR A BIG DOG OR LET THE PEOPLE IN YOUR AREA KNOW U ARE LEAVING AND TO PLEASE WATCH YOUR HOUSE. I THINK I WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE WORRIED ABOUT MEETING THEM AT A CAMP PLACE FAR AWAY AND NOT KNOWING THEM .DONT U WATCH SCARY MOVIES ??????? I WOULD NEVER MEET A STRANGER IN THE WOODS . ALOT OF PEOPLE GET TO NERVOUS ABOUT THE FIRST MEETS . SOME LIKE THE DINNER THING . BUT MOST DONT . WE ALWAYS TELL EVERYBODY TO JUST COME TO THE CLUB AND HANG OUT . OR IF THEY HAVE KIDS THEN WE CAN MEET AND LET THE KIDS PLAY AND JUST HANG OUT AND GET TO KNOW THEM . MOST LIKE IT LIKE THAT . NO NEED FOR A SITTER . NO NEED TO DRESS UP AND HAVE TO PUT ON A SHOW FOR ANYONE . JUST TWO FAMILIES GOING OUT AND HANGING OUT AND DOING SOMETHING FUN . AS FOR PEOPLE GIVING U THE WRONG PHONE NUMBER . THAT WOULD SHOW U THAT SOMETHING WASNT RIGHT . AS FOR THIS SITE OR ANY OTHER SITE AND THE SYSTEMS OR PROGRAMS THAT THEY TRY TO MAKE IT SAFER . I DON T UNDERSTAND ALL OF THAT . FIRST OF ALL . TO GET AN ACCOUNT IS EASY . TO TAKE PICS OR DO WEB CAM TO PROVE U ARE A REAL PERSON IS ONE THING . BUT THAT DOESNT MAKE THE SAFER THEN ANYBODY ELSE . WE LIVE IN A REALLY MESSED UP WORLD . AND JUST CAUSE WE SHARE THE OPEN LIFE STYLE TOG DOESNT MEAN WE CAN FORGET THAT ITS MADE UP OF REG PEOPLE .SO EVERYBODY SHOULD ALWAYS MEET IN A PUBLIC PLACE AND PLAY IT SAFE UNTILL THEY FEEL OK WITH THE NEW PERSON .AND STILL BE ON THE LOOK OUT AND BECAREFUL . AS FOR GIVING THEM THEY ARE REAL SWINGERS SEAL . I DONT UNDERSTAND THAT ONE EITHER , THERE IS ALOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE NEW TO THE LIFE STYLE . SO THAT WILL LEAVE THEM OUT AND MAKE THEM LOOK BAD AND MAKE THEM FEEL PRESSURED TO PLAY WITH SOMEONE . SO THEY DONT LOOK LIKE FAKES . AND JUST CAUSE SOMEONE IS A SWINGER AND HAS PLAYED BEFORE DOESNT MEAN THEY WILL WANT TO PLAY WITH THE PERSON WRITING THEM OR WANTING TO MEET THEM . I THINK THE SEAL FROM A FRIEND WOULD BE OK . AND A GOOD IDEA . BUT IF PEOPLE ARE ONLY GOING TO WANT TO WRITE AND TALK WITH ONLY THOSE PEOPLE . THEN ALOT OF PEOPLE WILL MISS OUT ON THE NEW MEMBERS TO THE SITE AND THE AREA AND THE LIFE STYLE . I DONT ASK FOR ANY KINDA OF SEAL ON ANY OF THE SITES WE ARE ON . AND I DONT LOOK FOR THEM WHEN IAM WRITING TO PEOPLE . THAT IS ALL POINTLESS TO ME . SOMEONE THAT WAS A COUPLE WHEN THEY JOINED CAN NOW BE BROKEN UP . OR IT COULD HAVE JUST BEEN A FRIEND WITH A FRIEND GETTING THE SEAL . I DONT LOOK AT THEM AS ANY SAFER THEN ANYONE ELSE . AND IF THEY HAD A SWINGERS SEAL OR NOT MEANS NOTHING TO ME . DOESNT MEAN THEYWILL WANT TO PUT OUT TO ME . OR ME TO THEM . AND I THINK IT IS GOING TO HURT ALOT OF HOOK UP S WITH NEW MEMEBERS AND NEW BIES TO THE LIFE STYLE . WE RUN A SWINGERS SITE . WE HAVE A TON OF PICS WITH US AND WITH FRIENDS THAT WE CAN SHOW WE ARE REAL PEOPLE AND WE DO PLAY WITH OTHERS . WE HAVE WEB CAM TO SHOW WE ARE REAL . WE ARE ON A TON OF SITES WHERE THEY CAN ALSO SEE US . IF THEY SEEM LIKE FUN PEOPLE WE WILL INVITE THEM TO THE CLUB TO COME AND HANG OUT WITH US AND EVERYBODY ELSE . JUST CAUSE I AM A SWINGER DOESNT MEAN I WANT TO PLAY WITH ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO PLAY WITH US . SO I WANT TO GET TO KNOW THE PEOPLE AND SEE IF WE CLICK . AND NO SEAL CAN TELL ME THAT . I HAVE TO GET OUT THERE AND MEET PEOPLE AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS . I AM PROUD OF THE SITES FOR TRYING TO MAKE IT SAFER AND ALL OF THAT . BUT I THINK PEOPLE USE OR DEPEND ON THESE SEALS AND ALL OF THAT WAY TO MUCH .I THINK IT MAKES PEOPLE THINK THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE OK TO MEET AND THEY FORGET TO USE THEIR OWN JUDGEMENT ON WHEN AND HOW TO MEET THESE STRANGERS . SITE OWNERS ARE GIVING U A PLACE TO PUT UP A PROFILE AND TRY TO MEET PEOPLE WITH WANTS AND NEEDS ALIKE . HAVING SITES LIKE THIS IS VERY HELPFUL IN THE LIFE STYLE MAKING NEW FRIENDS . BUT THERE IS NO SEAL IN THE WORLD THAT CAN TELL U TO THROW CAUTION IN THE WIND AND FEEL 100% SAFE WITH ANYBODY . SOME MIGHT FIND THEM HELPFUL . BUT PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT U NEED STILL NED TO BE VERY CAREFUL . AND ABOUT YOUR PHONE NUMBER AND ADD AND REAL NAMES AND ALL OF THAT . ANYONE CAN GET THAT AT ANY TIME . BUT BE VERY CAREFUL ON WHO U CHOOSE TO TELL IT TO . NO ONE THAT DOESNT KNOW U NEEDS TO KNOW ANY OF THAT STUFF . THEY CAN HAVE EVERY SEAL THAT IS EVER MADE UP BUT THAT DOESNT MEAN THEY STILL ARENT CREEPY . SO PLEASE BECAREFUL AT ALL TIMES . SEAL OR NO SEAL . NAUGHTY DREAMS FREAKY KITTY

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Now that you're one of them there fancy swingers... - - [quote=EVILDOERS]...are your sexual expectations/requirements much higher than they were before you decided to participate in this little hobby of ours? Is the simple variety in sexual partners alone enough to satisfy your inner freak or have you found yourself to be much less tolerant of mediocre sexual skills and now only want to play with people who are extremely adept in the sexual arts? Or do you just jerk off a lot? [em]Emo_12[/em] [/quote]I'd love to contribute something equally witty...but who could ever compete with Mr Evil? So..guess I'll just stick to the questions... Higher expectations or requirements?. Nope. Came into this lifestyle just to have fun and that's all I still expect. Fun to me is just hanging around such free thinking girls...allowing me to share in their pleasures...whether it's with me...or not. Doesn't matter. I'm happy just to be in the game. Sexual skills are definately appreciated when shared with me!! But not required...nope. I honestly do enjoy just being around a girl who is sharing her own sexuality. It's like a peek into a forbidden world to me. How could I ever complain? I know..I'm wierd. But sometimes...I DO just like to F*ck! And THOSE girls are especially appreciated! Does that help? As for jerking off? Nope...not with Ms TiffnD around! I have a hard time keeping up with her as it is~!

What is your main lifestyle insecurities? - - [quote=CypherandCeli]Our main one as noobs is rejection and drama. Yes it's part of any relationship, but it's still there. We aren't fit, we are a typical middle aged couple with kids. We are also only looking to take it slow and start with soft swap. We were on before and meet a few people that were very aggressive or mad when we didn't want to have sex after a 5 min conversation with just the guy. We understand not everyone will be attracted to everyone or want just a soft swing, but it's still our biggest insecurity. [/quote Soft swing, to us, is a warm comforting security blanket, that eliminates all sorts of issues. Who doesn't want to cuddle up, enveloped in the security of the one they love the most? No swing, same room, no sexual contact with anyone but your spouse even more so. Really, it eliminates a lot of potential anxiety. It is a lot of fun too! There are a lot of seasoned swingers that totally understand where you are. Full swap, group play, and such are absolutely fantastic when everyone involved is ready, attracted, there is chemistry, and everyone wholeheartedly wants to do it. Our experience is that quite often the pushy side of a couple's equation is just as insensitive toward their significant other as they are toward you.

International Swingers Day - How are you celebrating? - [quote=EVILDOERS]Pretty normal evening then I take it.[/quote]