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The Dangling Carrot Syndrome - Just a moment to rant a little - We have run into it many times... Our experience is that there are two things going on at the same time: 1.) It is just as hard to say no as it is to hear no. We have found many people just do not know how to say no thanks. I know we have a hard time doing it, online is much easier than in person. 2.) Many people are what we call 'fantasy swingers,' they THINK they want to swing, but when it actually comes up, they are not as keen for it. Add to the above, when you THOUGHT you were gonna swing, but decided against it, would you, as a non-swinger, think that a swinger would want to be your buddy? I have seen MANY people look down there nose, be afraid of, etc of people once they find out that you're a swinger. But then again, WTF do we know?

How close is too close - - If you have problems in your marriage, swinging is not going to fix them. I think the excitment of swinging will, perhaps, camoflage them for a short time. But in the long run if there are problems the level of trust that is required to swing -- just will not be there. But I wonder how our statistics compare to the general public? Are swinging couples getting divorced at a higher or lower rate? Comparing our swinging friends with our vanilla friends, the swingers seem far more happy with and into their mate. The scenarios and issues raised by this question, happen in and out of swinging. Remember the joke -- "my wife ran off with my best friend, and boy I am going to miss him". That is a vanilla life joke. We all need to take care to respect the intimate relationship between other swinging couples. We should all expect others to respect our relationship with our spouse. But in the end, if you trust each other enough to swing successfully, then I think the other issues of life will prove to be fairly easy to handle together.

male curiousosity - - Hubby is bi and we don't hide it. There are a lot of people on here that are bi and state they are stra8. As far as for STD's please people be more opened about it....if you sleep with one you sleep with whom ever they have slept with. What makes you think your are going to contract STD's from giving a man oral and not from a woman...especially if we are a full swap couple....let's just say am sucking on 2 cocks at the same time....hummm wouldn't I be the transporter of the STD....so...My hubby and I know that we are playing Russian Roulette on here. We have become swingers, we don't know who everyone we have been with, had been with prior to us..... we take the necessary cautions and we never go bareback does that protect us completely...NO.....like I say, Russian Roulette but we both have talked about it and it is a consequence we have to face if it does happen. Oh bi the way it is so hot to see 2 men on a 69

female AGE turn on-off - - SPERM, You are a class A jackass. Pleae take your cheating ass elsewhere. Your words spit on everything that real swingers believe in. You make me sick. Mrs Classy

Swingers party at Edun Lakes ... - - Ok everyone, Here's "The Big One!" When: Feb. 24th from 7:00 p.m. Music til 1:00 a.m.! Where: Contact us for details Contact [email protected] for directions. Music will be supplied by a DJ on the night of the party to include all genres with lights and high energy! The party will be "Clothing Optional" except that YOU MUST BE NUDE IN THE HEATED POOL! You may PLAY in the pavilion, around the pool (including pool deck), or anywhere around the lake. So, bring your campers, (no hook-ups) tents, vans, cars, or air mattresses to sleep or play in. Music will end at 1:00 a.m. We hope you won't leave the grounds after drinking. B.Y.O.B. but Ice will be provided. Single males by invitation only. Go to Victoria's Closet, 13452 N. Cleveland Ave. N. Ft. Myers, (239-731-8424) for the coolest of outfits! Bring a snack to share with everyone and towels to sit on if nude. Overnight camping is allowed (no hookups) but shower and restrooms are available. Let's make this the Big One of the year! Get signed up early because this will be a huge Lifesyle event!

please be careful - - ...interesting comment from another site.... "Older folks swinging their way to STDs ..... older "swingers," ... are at high risk for chlamydia and gonorrhea" sounds very alarming, until you read the details and consider other factors. "10.4 percent (risk) of swingers being infected ... compared with 14 percent of gay men, 10 percent in straight people who did not swing" Really? Only a 0.4% increase over straight..." That's NOT a comparatively high risk. In "... the over-45 population, they found 55 percent of the diagnoses for chlamydia and gonorrhea occurred in swingers, versus 31 percent in gay men" - This is meaningless without more data, such as the comparative size of the populations. " The study authors hypothesize ...." Yeah, a lot of hypothesis and little to back it up. The only worthwhile line in this article is "...researchers recommend swingers be tested for common infections like chlamydia and gonorrhea regularly and practice safe sex."

Playing Alone - - Couples all have different rules. Many categorically refuse to play alone with ANYONE ever. This is their "security" place. They feel comfortable in the place where they can see each other and "protect" if necessary. It takes some people a long time to get passed this. It's kind of a 'control' thing leftover from the vanilla life. I'm not saying it's bad, good or indifferent it's just the way it is. Some people take longer to get passed their histories as vanillas than others. As they progress and get more comfortable with themselves, the lifestyle, their partners then they will slowly open up and begin to trust a bit more. Don't take it personally, that's the key. Many people still hang on to their vanilla background that their partners are their most 'valued' possession. I liken it to my $450 deep sea fishing reel. Sure I'll loan it to someone to use if I'm on the boat with them and can make sure they're taking care of it. Is there anyone I'd just let 'borrow' it out right for the day or weekend? Not a chance in hell. It takes time to let go of that 'she's/he's mine' get feeling. I think my wife and I took almost 6 years before we got there successfully. We tried many times before that but it never worked out well for either of us. We finally came to a point where it's okay to play separately everything from next room to next state it no longer bothers us. I personally prefer within 30 - 50 miles so she get's home faster for the "after play" sex you're describing (which I really like too.) You'll have to find a VERY secure, VERY established, VERY strong couple to fulfill your fantasy. They are out there, my wife and I for example but even though we're open to playing separately are we open to YOU playing with her or me separately? That's a different level of trust. Does it mean no? No. It means "maybe" in time it's a possibility. (I'm speaking hypothetically of course.) Don't worry your "couple" or "person" will come along. You might also try investigating a subsection of the lifestyle called "hotwifeing" while I know few swingers who are hardcore into only hotwifing, there are quite a few that tip toe in that part of the lifestyle (quick def, she plays he doesn't except with her.) That's the post play joy for you and the play and post play joy for her. Most people just bounce between that and swinging. There are people out there just be patient and don't expect it from any current playmates that you have established rules with, they need to progress at their own speed.

Now a single male looking for a rebound play - - Yeah, swinging can cause huge pressure on a marriage and totally screw it up. I'm sure that's why most swingers, myself included, would never recommend swinging as a way to "spice-up" a marriage that is having some difficulty. You definitely have to be on the same page as your partner in order to give swinging a go -- and then be pretty damn quick on your feet and adaptable as things get going -- perhaps in a direction that you didn't expect. I don't get though, why the OP is back here if he's not interested in swinging for the long term or looking for a woman who is interested in it? Seems this OP is more suited for a singles-type site. And Evil, yes I'd like to see your listing 'cause I'm guessing that at least one of the items involves a douche-canoe going over a large peefall before crashing into a turd log. Or other such silliness, much funnier than what I've just described! ;) Yes ... I know your personality here!

Site Weirdness - A thousand less members online than usual? - [quote=CHEFFETTE][quote=UTAHCOUPLE4PLAY]I've only been on here about a month and I get logged out by the site frequently, even as I'm writing something.[/quote](M)Was just reading your profile and half way through I was loged out so guess they still have things to do, but still the best site for swingers. Anyway I like your profile LOL.

Raffle items for the Northern Nights meet and greet!!! - Thanks to the people that donated these! - 4 of these Scooter Bikes, valued over $200 each, were donated by an anonymous couple for the Northern Nights Sub for Santa party. We are going to give two of them away to some lucky Swingers in our raffle and give two of them to the Christmas Box House. These are so KEWL and will make great gifts!!! Thanks to the couple that donated these - they wanted to remain a Secret Santa!!! Love you two! We have many more prizes to give away to our guests, including $200 dollars worth of gift certificates to Dr. John's Lingerie Boutique!!! So make sure you bring a new, unwrapped toy with you to receive FREE admission to the club & your raffle ticket! [color=#c708dd"](1 raffle ticket per person that brings a toy/gift for the Sub for Santa)[/color] All the new toys/gifts will be delivered to the Christmas Box House and will be greatly appreciated by the staff and LOVED by the children that they care for.

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