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In response to GSC posts and Swingular. - - Lookie what I found in my inbox today.....
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From: NTAKTAGF [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 4:37 PM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: NTAK Update Fri 11/02 Kind of long.
Swingers,
Here is an update as of Friday, November 02, 2007. SW Admin did contact NTAK counsel today. The essentials of this conversation were relayed to us by counsel over the phone.
As we understand it, Rob has removed GSC
Is it a “preference” or is it “ discrimination” - - Discrimination can be against non-physical attributes as well (Political and religious are the two most obvious nowadays.) But I would call almost everything else a preference, at least as far as swinging is concerned.
One of the biggest hurdles we found when we first entered the lifestyle was people who were upset that, for whatever reason, we didn't want to fuck them. Their mindset was, "We're swingers and you're swingers so what's the problem? Let's fuck!" We did, eventually, come to the realization that in some instances our first impression, based on looks or whatever, could be overcome, in time, by getting to know people better and eventually finding a different kind of attractiveness that trumped simple physical attraction. YMMV
Poly-Swingers - Moving beyond FWB relationship - [quote=T4REAL69]I for one am still not clear what the input is the OP is seeking (and yes I realize he asked this of poly couples)? OP are you asking how you should proceed in the relationship seeing how feelings have developed to a deeper level then just the casual? [/quote]
Just curious as to what other Non monogamous couples' have experienced when strong emotional bonds to people other than one's spouse has emerged.
KUTV News Story on Swingers - News - EAGLE MOUNTAIN, Utah
Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - Uluv.... you asked and have gotten may differnt responses. We are one of those couples looking for single males but your location makes it difficult to hook up. As for the hate you feel.... well it is my opinion that people on here give their opinions and a person takes it the way the want. Yes your name sounds a bit like porno but this isn't the Brady Bunch's website either.
As for Utah being the whitest state.... that I would have to agree on. My 10 year old son met my sisters boyfriend a while back who is black and told him the he needed to use more soap because he didn't get the dirt all the way off. Thank god the guy was good about it but it comes from not many black people in this state.
And then to the comment about single males bring nothing to the table. I have heard that many times on these forums and it bothers me. A single male brings in a lot of different possibilities if you are open enough to the experience. If you are not open or have had probs with single males it does not mean that the single male cannot provide fun for another couple.
Tasha
Disabled Swingers - - There are many different kinds of disabilities. Some more obvious than others. If that was a problem with me I would have missed out on so many very close friendships. One of my dearest, closet friends died from MS last year and my life wouldn't be the same if I hadn't taken the time I did, to spend with her. God Bless You Ricki....
We have heard about it many times........... - Couples that are swingers - BINGO.....and the winner is: UTFUN
well put!!
happy NYE...get laid.
Mr. diver
western slope colorado swingers - trying to find fellow swingers - Hey there! Love Montrose....while we live in Utah...we visit there often. Love to ride in the San Juans! We haven't met anyone from that area, but have seen a few post...mostly from Junction. Good luck!
Moab Utah - Swingers in Moab - We go to Moab all the time! Would be great to meet up with another couple down there. :-)
Virtual "Cheap Thrill Seekers" - - We empathize with much of what we have read in this topic so far ... Unfortunately, fakes who try to deceive their way into your bedroom and flakes who get their kicks setting up false dates are all too prevalent, not only on Swingular but throughout the entire swingers' community online. For the past three months, we have wasted tremendous amounts of our precious spare time perusing countless profiles and advts, and writing and responding to countless emails and text messages. Despite our concerted almost-daily effort,` we have met only two genuine couples. The vast majority of people we have had contact with over the past 3 months have been fakes or flakes ... and we refuse to play their game any more.
These people only exist and thrive on sites like this, and make our pastime difficult and unpleasant, because we allow them to. Evildoers is correct in his/her statement that digital technology has made it easier for people to pretend to be something they are not ... But that depends entirely on the technology being used, which we will discuss in a moment.
We (genuine couples) cannot eradicate flakes and fakes from sites like this one, but there are simple commonsense steps we can all take to take the fun out of their participation here.
1. Only communicate with certified/verified couples or females. This is not infallible, but it will reduce the amount of fakes/flakes you come into contact with.
2. Publicly expose and shame all fakes and flakes using the forum. If Swingular doesn't like the forum being used this way they can delete the countless number of posts they will receive, else provide another suitable avenue.
2a. If Swingular doesn't come to the party, start up an online "Flake-o-Dex". It's not as problematic as it sounds if you already have website hosting ( :D ). The major problems with this are getting the site known so people will use it, and moderating the site to ensure that only genuine complaints are posted. But these problems are not insurmountable.
2. Screen your prospects. Stop communicating in text or email after the initial contact ... Advise them by text, email (or on your profile page) that you will want to meet them on webcam (Skype or Swingular videochat) before any real-life meeting. For the most part, fakes and flakes won't contact you again, but if they do, a no-show on cam is far less inconvenient and costly than a no-show in real-life. If a couple or single female are genuine swingers who truly interested in a real life sexual encounter, they should have no inhibitions in meeting you privately on cam.
3. If you only want to meet real couples or females, put yourselves in a place where you will only meet real people and where real people can meet you. Fakes thrive in the anonymity of text-only groups and hate videochat because they can't hide who they are ... So make use of the Swingular Video chat room and stop using text-only groups like Kik to meet people. We both met in a video/text chat room in 2008 (and were living in two separate countries at the time). Many of the people in the room were hiding their faces until they got to know each other (including us, initially) but, from day 1, we could determine everyone's gender and general appearance. Still anonymous (for those that wanted it that way) but no fakes there and none of the problems that are occurring on this site.
Well that's our view on the matter ... Whether you choose to consider and try our suggestions is entirely up to you. :)
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