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Thank you Lifestyle. - A commentary about our journey - [quote=SAMEROOMONLY]Thanksgiving just passed us by and Xmas and the New Year are quickly approaching. I thought I would take a long moment of my time, and your time if you are reading this, to tell this massive entity, called the "Lifestyle" how it has changed me this year. We have been in the Lifestyle for a little over a year and a half. We don't even like the name lifestyle. We prefer "kinky" or "adventurous" or even just "fun as hell", but it seems the term will be around for awhile longer. The wife and I often ponder what exactly the Lifestyle is. Is it a certain set of rules and guidelines that we all live in? Is it the same for us as it is for everyone else? How often does it hurt marriage or relationships and how often does it help? Do we regret our decision to enter into it? When we first tip-toed into the waters we were intimidated, in awe and totally unprepared for what we would experience. It all seemed magical and sometimes scary. We have and had a great marriage and thought we wanted a new, kinky adventure together. We planned to go slow and we would be fine, we were certain. But we were nervous. We were so sloshed at our first Sinful party that we irritated a few people there, no doubt, and probably made asses of ourselves. We still do that sometimes, but now we do it conscientiously. But we grew and learned quickly and have morphed into what we are today (huge asses). Interestingly enough, a few years before we entered the LS, we thought swingers were all gross, dirty, sexually infected people ( I am still not ruling some of you out). We had met a couple that harassed us at every opportunity and were the "creepy" type. Now we know people may think of us the same way if they found out, which is sad, because we like to be honest and open with all of our friends. So, like many of you, it is a secret we keep. It is a trade off for doing what we do. So what have I learned? How have I changed? I have always been a non-judgmental person by most standards, but still I had strong opinions about certain things. One spouse, one partner; that is how it should be done. So what changed? First off, our communication started to blossom about all sorts of things once my wife left her religion. I won't mention names, but it begins with an L and ends in DS. We talked and talked and talked and the more we talked the more we realized that we both had kinky minds and that maybe we should "experiment". So, we made some rules, actually a LOT of rules, and entered the ring. Still thinking one spouse, one partner, but maybe, just maybe we could play in the same room as other people. How kinky is that? Hence our name...sameroomonly. Well, as some of you know, the lifestyle is a monstrous, living, breathing beast and can quickly drag you to places you never thought possible. We made some mistakes, had some great times and just fumbled our way through for a few months trying to figure out where our lines were and what we should or shouldn't do. Then we got smart. We learned to communicate again, like we used to do privately, only now we could do it with other people around. And it was refreshing. No more secret code words (well, sometimes) and no more wondering if what one of us was doing was not condoned by the other. So that is the first thing I think the LS has helped us with. Communication. We communicate like mother fuckers. Better than all of our non-lifestyle friends, for the most part. Are we always amazing and never have bumps? Of course not. Anyone who says they never have drama are either liars or delusional. So thank you lifestyle for our ability to exchange ideas and to be more honest with each other, always. The next thing we found was that we were making friends at a very fast pace. We made a kik group and had our first party with about 40 people up in Park City only 5 or so months after joining the website. It was a blast. We still host parties and invite new people all the time. We enjoy introducing new friends with old friends. Wait, did I say friends or fuck buddies? Don't we sleep with all of our friends? Isn't that the expectation? Not for us. We have made friends that we know will be around until we are all old and gray. We have lost friends because we wouldn't fuck. There are whole discussions on these forums about how some just want to meet and fuck, because this is a swinging site, not a friend site. And to each their own. We don't judge, but for us the rewards of our friendships have far outweighed the 10 or 20 seconds of amazing sex. We have friends around the world that we never would have met without the LS. So to the lifestyle, I say thank you for all of the wonderful friends we have made. Love you all, some more than others ( you know who I am talking about). :) The LS has also taught me to be less judgmental and to avoid using words like "never" or "always". Life is full of gray areas and has lost much of its black and white features. Oh sure, I still judge, have preferences and prejudices, but we all do. I just really believe in walking in another's shoes before I make any decisions about someone's life. So lifestyle, thank you for making me more understanding of other people. Last of all, I just want to say that the sexual journey has been amazing. We have shared many hot, sexy and intimate times with some of you and we have come to realize how similar we all are. We all like sex, we all have a kinky side, or else we wouldn't be here. I have done things that I never imagined would ever happen, with some of the sexiest, most beautiful people I have ever met. I have shared intimate moments with people I care deeply about and others that were just passing through. All have their high points. I have experienced more than most people would even dream about, as have most of you. We are the select who choose to follow our dreams and fantasies. I think we are fortunate. So lifestyle, thank you for all the amazing sex. In the end the lifestyle is different for everyone. It is a whole sub universe in the middle of a "normal" society. Sometimes we have to walk among the shadows to keep our secret, but totally worth it. I would never trade the LS for my wonderful marriage and think I am the luckiest man alive to be married to my beautiful, amazing wife who has shared this journey with me. Love you, Babe. As with everything in life, there will be people who read this and like it, some who don't care and some who disagree or will want to pick it to pieces. That is what makes this amazing. There are so many wonderful, different people and the lifestyle is a perfect diving board to jump into the sea of waiting bodies and personalities. So if you are new, jump in, explore and learn. If you are old school, help others to weather the bumps and keep exploring. Long live the lifestyle. That is a little about my journey, how about you? I encourage anyone to add what they think or feel the LS has done for them, even negative things. Merry xmas to everyone and hope to meet some of you new people. And to my friends, I care about each and every one of you. The Mr. [/quote] All of life is an adventure we live at the moment, and relive introspectively, over and over again. If the reexamination of our life experiences leads us toward insight and positive personal epiphanies, in so much that our day to day, in the moment life experiences, become more dear and vivid, augmenting upward and forward into the future, then can we not count ourselves lucky indeed? If we are healthy, we want to be embraced, emotionally, socially and sexually. If the "lifestyle" can help to afford us the fulfillment of these desires, will it not lead to enhancement of our happiness, and growth individually and as a couple if we are partnered? Will the experience make us more proficient and giving lovers? Can it make us better people?

FUCK THIS RECESSION!!! - - Welcome to the 4.3% state. The US in general is at an 7.2% unemployment rate according to jobs.utah.gov. It happened here on Feb. 11, 2008 pursuant to a reduction in force. Many were released throughout all of last year. Don't expect anything to change until 2010. Careerbuilder, Craigslist and jobs.utah.gov are just the start. Good luck and may the reduction in force not be with you fellow swingers!

First Meeting - - After about 5 years of being in the lifestyle that is still a problem for us on knowing when is the right time to take it to the next level. Our first time was unexpected. It was back when then web cam became popular and we played on cam with some friends of ours. One evening we went out to have a few drinks with them. After an evening of drinking we said our good-byes at the bar and drove home. We didn't realize that they followed us home and pulled in the drive right behind us. She asked can she use the bathroom and when she came out of the bathroom she was naked. And we have been swingers ever since. We are still very close friends with them and hang out all the time.

What is wrong with being a bi male? - - I've always had trouble with the fact that as swingers we are supposed to be open minded and different from vanilla people but when it comes to bi men we are so homophobic, as a group. It's OK, more than OK for a woman to be bi but men have been shunned as bi, in the lifestyle for as long as I can remember and we've been in the lifestyle for about 18 years now. At a hotel after party in a room there were 8 of us and one person made a comment about one time he was doing a woman who wanted him to pull out and cum on her chest. When the time came he cummed at her chest and caught her husband on the stomach. This brought about several comments from the other men in the room none positive and one said that would do him in for the night... Shit happens when there are a bunch of people doing what feels good. What's the problem. As far as bi men go it has long been a stigma that they could or were more prone to disease than a guy who is not bi. Women, even bi women have stayed away from bi men because they think one has a better than average chance of catching some dred STD. While bi and gay men are in the forefront of the HIV thing bi men, in the lifestyle are, I would think, are quite a bit more careful about using protection and who they play with. From my comments some might think that I'm bi, bi curious, or other unknown by me phrase. I am basically straight but definitely not homophobic. Someone said here that when you are in a pile it doesn't matter who is giving head if it feels good....regardless of what sex they are. I've used this example many times on various sites we have been on. Men who are bi do not want to cross the line and try to turn straight guys. Most are quite respectful for your preferences. Now all we have to do is get the notion that they are somehow dangerous, i.e., STD wise and that they want to turn straight guys. Might be some but I've met a number of straight guys who we find are not that arrow straight when you get to know them. They'll tell you when they find out that you are friends regardless of their preferences. I think that through sites like these that bi men are becoming much less a thing to be shunned or afraid of. Remember that bi women are as much a threat to your manhood and as much a danger about STD's as bi men. Remember we are supposed to be OPEN MINDED in the lifestyle.

glofing lessons - - First off ........... Nice offer on your end. Not to detract from your generosity, but have a few questions. What qualifies you to teach Mike? Played for years? Had a good mentor? Good at teaching the key basics? Won some tourneys? (as I have) Just wondering where you got the idea to do this posting and where it came from. Or were you just looking for golfing buddies. I would say lets see who can teach who, and "lets play heads" LOL but honestly, put on a swingers site that may send the wrong message, or others may take that statement wrong. I play straight! LOL Honestly though, could say that Sara can help wash my balls for good luck and make my putter stand on end (Thanks Johnny Carson) but would really like to know more how she can handle the driver. Hummm Which course is she willing to play? :P Let's ALL go golfing!

hall passes - who all does it - Never could understand the "Hall Pass" thing for swingers or the "No separate Room thing". If you're confident in your relationship (which alot of you say you are) why do you need either? If u guy's want to do these things...be careful what u ask for. Your woman is going to have alot more opportunities then you.

Swingers dying out? - Is the utah swinger community dying or becoming to needy? - Yep, swinging's as dead as a doornail. We're thinking of taking up pornographic cross- stitching to fill the void. [em]Emo_96[/em]

Hall Passes - Do you and your partner exchange hall passes? - We don't really do the hall pass thing, but we are welcome to be with who we'd like to as long as the timing works out. We find it VERY hot hearing about (and re-enacting) it afterwards. That being said we do prefer to watch each other so we don't do it very often and when we do its generally with ppl we've already been with. We prefer swingers, but when he's out of town on business if he finds the opportunity with someone of the vanilla variety he is more than welcome to. We are very supportive of each other enjoying every opportunity that presents itself even if that means one of us is at home with the kids, cuz we know there'll be some earth-shattering sex happening in our bedroom later! On a somewhat related note, I know he fantasizes about all the wild things I do while he's at work after the kids go to bed and I fantasize about all the things he could be doing when he's working late, but the reality of it is that its just wishful thinking. 'Course when I'm in Chat in the evenings and the mood strikes me... but that's a different story. ;) -SG

single men ...Toys or Annoys? - should single men be allowed to attend swinger parties - I have been on both sides of the fence here. As a pretty shy guy until I get to know people, I may have in the past been perceived as that creepy lurker guy. Heck, I'm probably still perceived as that. Thankfully my other half is drop dead gorgeous... If the single men are respectful and don't think that just because they are going to a swingers party means that they are going to get laid, than I think it's fine to invite a few. I've seen some married guys get pissed off that single guys were at a swingers club because their wife would rather fuck that single guy than fuck them. That can always cause a problem. Of course I've seen married guys who were pissed off that their girl was getting it on with a lady who wouldn't let the guy touch her. So it goes both ways. Whatever happens, I hope you have an awesome and fun party. Wish we were there...

Women's Panel Wanted - Single Male Symposium - Swinger wives that have a reputation as someone who sometimes hooks up with single men, sort of do for a swinger's event, what Jupiter does for the solar system. Jupiter has so much gravity that it sort of sweeps the solar system of most of the asteroids that might have otherwise made impact with the other planets. Single men need to remember, that albeit some swinger wives do play with single men, that they may actually be more interested in meeting couples at swingers events, especially if she is bisexual. If a swinger wife is with her husband, or even by herself, and she is obviously enjoying a conversation with another couple or more, then recognize that is not the time to come over and ask her dance or to try and pull her attention your direction. Say hi it's good to see you, or something like that, and she will enjoy that, but don't go into orbit. Follow the lady's lead and she will let you know if and when she wants you to make impact.

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