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Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - ULUV, Insecurity, fear, unwillingness, ignorance etc. I believe a true swinger or "Libertine" is one that exercise free thought and actions without regard to morals or a dogma. This means not only in sex, but all things. I strive to be openminded with everything, but no one is perfect. I, like everyone am at a level of openmindedness in my life and I am striving to achieve new levels of understanding everyday. Some of will remain, some of with regress, while some us will continue to advance our whole lives. Willingness to open up to new ideas and concepts helps. Hate will exist as long as ignorance does. Kinsey is among many scientists that have and do explore the realm of human sexuality. Many people don't try and take the time to better understand themselves. We are such egocentric creatures fundementally, that we often lose sight of reality through our own perception. That perception has ben clouded by propaganda, ignorance of fact and misinformation. I strive to better understand those around me, by coaxing them to interact with me here. Sometime, I admit, I manipulate them with controversial subject matter to "stir the pot", but it get shit moving and get's people talking and interacting. There in the combustion chamber, can we all see what's happening. We just have to do our best to take of the clouded goggles of our perceptions and open our minds to the sometimes harsh, sometime beautiful reality. I am still trying to get mind all the way off. -D- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_Reports

Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - ULUV, HAHAHA!!! Never had it. Is it any good? Oh and dude, if you change your fuckin' name, I won't respect you anymore. Fuck 'em, if they don't like it. I think it suits you and to tell you the truth man, I think it's a fuckin pimp assed name. You are who you are. That I do respect. I've read a lot of your posts and I have to say, you are a smart and funny dude, built like a brick shithouse and got pics to prove the ladies like ya. I think you never even needed this thread. You are one of the cool ones dude. I don't know if that means anything, but I would recommend you to our friends seeking the single gents. Guys like you T4REAL69, VALANCEPARADIGM (forgive me if I left any of you guys out) and a few others, proved to me that not all of you single guys are cocky, pushy, selfish fucks. You ever get this way, let's have a beer. Bring one though because the beer here sucks. Only state in the union that has 3.2 percent by weight beer (about 4% by volume). It's weak as fuck. That's a whole new Utah-based thread. -D-

Question - do you talk about other swingers? - NEVER NEVER NEVER NEFER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER, and did I mention NEVER !

Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - Calling someone a "nigger" is the texbook racism.

International Swingers - Error - We meant 'MOREFUN'!

Disneyland swingers - - Check out the tiki bar in Disneyland hotel. A lot of hook up there. I will be there next week but not October 4-7.

Meet swingers in Tooele - Where do the swingers hang out in Tooele? - I'm pretty sure that Tooele swingers usually hang out in the super swanky high end night clubs in Urda. I could be wrong though.

When age matters.... - - To me it seems it really is a matter of attraction and yes everything is relative. With most of us wanting some level of anonymity as far as public pictures are concerned our profiles are unwrapped packages. Our profiles display numbers for age, weight, etc., and we probably all consciously or unconsciously make erroneous judgments based on those numbers. I have a friend I work with whose weight, by the numbers, would turn some people off. A photo would do her partial justice unless you didn't like tattoos, which about cover her. To see her in person, with that smile, those eyes, her enthusiastic yet thoughtful hyper animated self, she is very attractive. To know her personality, well she is the kind of lady everyone wants to at least live next door. Pebble Rock forgive my old dude ramble, but I think that at least for me the more I esteem and enjoy other people as they are for who they are the more I esteem and enjoy my own company. If sex at some point happens then great and if not then that is fine too. I do not approach anyone with the expectation save the Mrs., and she toward me because we have established for thirty years that we really like each other. To harbor a can we fuck now, can we fuck now, can we fuck now attitude with am eye singly fixed toward sex could lead to disappointment due to the unmet expectation. I enjoy the vanilla world and vanilla people immensely and so why would I not enjoy that same sort of human non sexual intercourse with people that are that are swingers where the possibility of sexual intercourse also exist. It is a possibility and if you jump in the water with no expectations and a positive attitude perhaps a probability with some delightful people. As for rejection just because someone does not want to have sex with you does not mean there is something wrong with you. As for the hyper critical sorts, I find that the appearance first and always foremost attitude that some swingers display is really unattractive but only malevolent when they go on the attack to insult others. I really have a hard time believing they are really deep down that shallow. They are also most probably mostly wonderful people just trying to find themselves and feel accepted just like all the rest of us. As for age cut offs. We do not have any so long as they are consenting adults. We began swinging when I was 49 maybe 50 and she was 43 maybe 44 and we have had sex with one couple in there twenties quite a few times, and one couple they also know once that are also in their twenties, a number of couples in their 40s a few times and a few times with one couple in their late fifties that are now in their early sixties. As for singles our lovers have ranged from their twenties to their forties. We have been so busy as of the last two years that we do not get out much, hence we have not played much either, but the last time we actually went to a meet and greet almost a year ago we met a delightful sexy couple in their early 40s that are also extremely busy that we do not see enough but when we do it is most gratifying in most every way possible. Have we had people try and manipulate us into sex or or be rude to us? Yes we have. Have made some mistakes ourselves as swingers? Yes we have. You cannot make an omelet without breaking a few eggs. In a few months after finishing a couple of goals we will be back in the swim on a more regular basis with no expectations. Just knowing the possibility is out there is exciting in and of itself.

Swingers cars??? - What ya driving?? - 2011 Victory Red.... V6 6 Speed.... Bought off show room floor specifically without the decal racing stripe.

Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - perhaps TEQUILAROSE was confused by my statement, I stated that alot of people have fetish's but I do not know alot of white couples that are interested in black men, not every woman like a cock over 8" either, there are some but we have not met very many and it seems to be a very select group and type of swinger. I am not speaking for all swingers, I am stating what I have seen in the past and my experience in what others have told me about why they do not prefer single men. I can tell you that "I" have had many men tell me that they have a wife or live in gf and that she is "not into it". In reality its safer for a man that is afraid of losing what he has to cheat on his partner in a swinger enviroment because the chances of it coming back to expose him is much less likely, no connections, no ties, no one knows someone that knows the other person, its very safe. Alot of single men have also told me that they feel that they are bringing excitement to a couples relationship that the husband can no longer provide or that the wife is simply bored with her husband and wants another. These misconceptions are what gives single men a bad name. Guys, seriously, as a woman I can tell you just because you get me excited in bed does not mean im falling for you or I just cant wait until I have you again, it does not mean that I do not get excited with my husband and it does not mean I will be with you when he is not there. I am not a booty call, I am not here to give you a safe ticket to adultry, I am a swinger, I believe in the value of a close friendship with others that you can be completely open, some of the best friendships I have ever had were with swingers that wanted FRIENDSHIP and showed RESPECT. In my humble opinion that is my and only MY definition of a swinger. This statement is not meant to represent any other swingers aside from myself so please do not imply that my statements are a canvas for the lifestyle, there was a question, this is my answer and opinion.