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Party Etiquette - How do people manage risks? - Mr here. So, the party that we went to before Halloween was a good party. It seemed much like another orgy that I participated in a few years ago, except this time I had Ms. Honeybunny with me :) That made me a little more aware of how people were interacting with each other, and I have a few questions about etiquette in those situations. Obviously, protection is important for a number of reasons, and pretty much everybody there was using condoms, cleaning toys after use, etc. However, one thing that I did not notice anybody using was dental dams or any kind of protection for oral sex. In a world where 70% of Americans have some form of herpes, for example, how do you deal with the risk of contracting it if you don't? Or what if you have other STDs? I would hope that if you have a temporary STD like chlamydia you would avoid lifestyles events until it cleared up, but nobody was talking about it. What if you have a more permanent STD, like the herpes mentioned above? Or AIDS? Or HPV? Two of those are really common, but also relatively harmless; do people just assume that other swingers do/don't have them or that the risk in not meaningful? I didn't really hear anybody talking about it, but I"m not sure if that's unusual or not. What's the typical protocol for situations like that? Also, now that I'm thinking about it. What would be the protocol if you DID pick something up from an event?

Handling aging and lifestyles - How do you handle getting older? - I'll second Utahldscouple. Interests and comfort level with play partners is more important than age. There are many mature swingers much more attractive than younger ones too. Perhaps they have more time to devote to fitness. Age really means nothing to us. Body types don't matter much either. It's really a package deal and a balance of all the qualities that make an individual or couple.

Couples and Single Males party - - It would be great fun, and a chance to get to know more swingers, broaden all our horizons ( maybe I just have broads on my horizon, stupid thinking).

swingers parties - - Fl4, I can see you actually using that line....

Creating an Amazing Swingers Profile - How to market yourself better - [quote=PALS4FUN][quote=TIFFND][quote=PALS4FUN]Damn it, gotta go delete that pic of me spread wide. Sheesh, just tryin' to please all of the people all of the time and this is what it gets me! ;)[/quote]Damn...she already deleted it. Just wanted to give my honest opinion on whether I found it obscene or not. Sheeeesh.[/quote]Now you are just SOOO sweet and thoughtful to take the time to try and check it out and offer some advice! [em]Emo_49[/em] So I had to jump over and check yours out. And, DAYUM, handsome, I gotta say that you look freaking hot for a 94 year old! [em]Emo_71[/em] Somehow I expected your profile to include a pic of you two at your home, a fun looking party with a barbecue and hot tub cooking away in the background. IDK why, that's just what I pictured! Damn imagination of mine![/quote]I know...I'm a little slow...but, hey...at this age I'm happy I can still get this damn computer thing turned on, let alone a sexxxy youngin' like Ms Pals! Thanks for the kind words sweet lady! I have been told I don't look a day over 85 before, tho....

Then there's this. - Enjoy! - [quote=Sm435]There is no argument nor debate. Sorry for you mask protagonists, but you lost. There are mandates all over the country and we still keep pumping out huge numbers of new cases every single day. The only thing this mask mandate ever did was enable people to feel empowered and place blame in others. We are all fighting the same virus, all of us, but people who buy in and think they are better or smarter than others take this as a way to point fingers. You posted a news story that labeled every swinger at that a party as a SPREADER and the party it’s self as a SUPERSPREADER event. This is 100% backed up by facts that includes testing everyone at the party for covid, finding some with advanced cases that cause almost everyone else to leave that party with covid right? Or in reality they busted a swingers party and have no real fact that covid was involved in any way. This is called non-factual news. Reposting non factual news, and labeling people who decide to go out and live as “spreaders” is the same VERY POOR TASTE as labeling all the homeless people in Pioneer Park as HIV STD needle junkies. You have facts to back that up to right? Or again, you’re throwing labels on people you feel are less than you and don’t fit nor follow your views. I’m sorry but those people living in the park are people too. We love swinging because we love people. New faces, old faces, all of them. We have dear friends in the lifestyle we do NOT share the same views on politics nor covid. But when you sit down and hang out you find that we are all so similar. We wanna live happily, feel safe, and have a little fun when we can. What the world needs right now is love and compassion, not finger pointing and blame. How about we all make a deal on this forum to only post when we have something positive to say about someone else, or something fun and exciting we want to try or do. When we have an urge to repost or comment on something negative we put the phone down, take a deep breath, and put that energy towards something positive like pleasing our spouse or sending a lifestyle friend a compliment and let all the negative shit get buried under the positive![/quote] Very spot on. I have said this since it started, all of these mandates are a way to instill fear into American people. They have NO evidence or science that is accurate to prove that social distancing or masks are even helping. NONE. and many doctors agree that they have no evidence or science behind this. So quit pushing a narrative of false assumptions. If you are buying into the nonsense, I feel for you, because you have been mislead into a false sense of security. YES masks and gowns work in a sterile environment! But the minute you touch money, food, clothing, railings, etc.... you have now contaminated that mask because I promise that you have adjusted it with your hands after you went shopping. If you really want to say this works, sterilize your home, do not go anywhere, and do not order anything online. Survive on what you have without stepping foot outside for months. Then you can say you did your part!

is soft swap swinging??? - -

YOUNGANDSEXY,

Anyone who tells you that soft swap is not swinging, is not a swinger. They are trying to oppress you with their idea of sex and relations with others. That in itself goes defies the definition of swinger. So just say fuck those fuckin fuckers. They are not worth your time. Vaginal intercourse with a stranger, does not make a swinger. If that were true, then all prostitutes are swingers. If it were me, I would say, "I'll full swap if I can take a morning shit in your fuckin mouth." Be sure to tell them they're not true swingers unless they fully open up to you. Lay on the pressure. See how they fucking like it. I hate fuckin' people that use snakey tactics and pressure.


-Don-

Are swingsites next? - - It seems that the theocratic power structure keeps trying to create a community exclusive to their vision of Zion through the acquisition of real estate. City Creek being their latest venture. It never really works, since fair housing laws make it impossible for anyone to completely eliminate people from buying property not of their faith. Certain communities do seem to gravitate toward certain neighborhoods. Once hipsters, for example start to move into a low price neighborhood, little by little businesses start to arrive that cater to their taste. The thought is that once you start to see the night life, or even the lack thereof, start to reflect certain taste in a neighborhood, then the property becomes more desirable to people who share the same taste. If the people the neighborhood attracts have money to spend the property values go up. I don't know. If swingers started to buy properties in a particular neighborhood, in numbers sufficient, that it affected the community's cash flow, then would it be possible, that the local cafes, coffee shops, bars and such might not all become somewhat swinger friendly without really say it? I know that I have been asked by gay men in a coffee shop, and in the Smith's in the 9th and 9th neighborhood of Salt Lake City if I am gay, and the gentlemen never seem at all worried about asking the question, nor offended when I tell them I am not. The surrounding neighborhood is a bit friendlier to the LGBT community than much of the rest of the city. I don't think a question like that is always a pick up line, but it is a valid question as a point of reference. Why shouldn't someone be able to ask a question like that? If the LGBT community has some areas of town, that are somewhat more of a comfortable safe space, then why not the non-monogamous? Is that happening anywhere?

What really defines a TRUE swinger? - - [quote=INVITESOME]We never have viewed single males as swingers. To to us and most of our swinging couple friends single males are cheap sex toys you carefully pick from, use them on rare occasions and then return them and forget them. Sounds harsh but the great thing is that is exactly what the majority of single males that we have all met like. We have only met a couple single males out of hundreds that have broken the mold and surprised us. [/quote] For the record at least our experience we have met far more couples where one or the other of them is just plain weird than singles. In fact we almost prefer singles over couples for that reason. Either way life is too short for bashing fellow Lifestylers. People should take their bad attitudes & imagined desirability somewhere else!

what the f#%@ was he thinking? - swingers still deserve respect - I have to agree. Unfortunately it is guys like that that make even just dating almost impossible for us "nice guys". It ruins it for men like me. Guys like that think they are such a gift. Far from it! Didn't your parents teach you clowns some Manners? On a lighter note, there are still some good classy people out there, not just for the "lifestyle", but in general socially. Keep the faith folks, you will find those good ones and want to keep them as long time friends and associates. Take care all and have a wonderful Independance Day!