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Go turn on Oprah - re:swingers - This show is a repeat. she had this on several months ago... I like that she allowed the people to express what swinging is all about.

Just looking for other couples happy with super soft and no swap - There must be more of us out there? - Im getting so confused. Seems there are so many rules and borders. I was in a room w a soft swap couple and the attitude was rude and didnt even want anyone watching and had the doors closed alone, now Im sorry but why would you go to a swingers club to have sex in a room alone and doors closed, how stupid. Been turned off to "soft swap" ever since. I respect everyone's bag but if you dont respect others, you'r not gonna get it back . Im very glad Im in the vegas swingers scene and not utah anymore.....and BTW any old couples I used to swing w....Mike will be in Vegas soon! lol

Skinny Dipping Spots - Where do you go sans clothes for a dip in Nature? - You can also meet up with the local naturist groups. They have naked activities all the time. The UANR group rents the pool of a local dive shop twice a month for general naked swimming/chatting for the first half then water activities/games (volleyball, tag, etc) afterwards. You can follow their group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/uanr Other groups you can research are Utah Naturists, NudeUtah, FSD, Wasatch Front Naturists, Skinny-Trippers, AANR, TNS, INF, NLI. Just be respectful and remember that they are naturists/nudists and are not swingers.

Posting Digital Pictures - - As a former amateur photographer and hobbiest, I find that a lot of you folks are not fully aware of the ability of your camera to , not only TAKE pictures, in a variety of sizes but also to post them in a size that people can see. I REALLY shouldn't be upset but, I really don't have anything better to do than complain. ROFLMFAO Okay, so here's what you do.... First , FIND your owners manual from wherever you hid it, this is undoubtedly the MAN's fault, since men think they can get along without an owners manual. (Hey, I'm a man too. I KNOW of what I speak (or in this case type). hehehe After you have found the manual, READ the part that deals with how to get the best picture (pixels or megs) from YOUR particular brand of camera. THEN, take some quality shots and post THEM and remove the ones we can't see anyway (without a magnifying glass). Check out THOUGHTGARDEN's profile pics sometime. They are THE MOST CREATIVE COUPLE (as far as pics) (can't say about swinging).That I've ever had the pleasure of ogling. I crack myself up sometimes. Oh well. I'm OLD. GIVE ME A BREAK. Okay next part of the equation. This is a subject that I gave a talk on at a swingers convention in Chicago a few years ago. CONTENT of your picture. Ladies, you are NOT defined by your tits, or you shouldn't be. You are MORE than just a set of "fun bags". Men, I'll get to you in a second. Ladies , I KNOW you are worried about someone you know seeing your pics and "outing" you to all your friends and neighbors. BZZZZT, wrong answer. If they have taken the time (and money) to explore the pics on Swingular, then, they MUST be swingers too. If you MUST cover your face, (digital is a little harder than film), I would suggest making a print (on glossy stock) (better detail) and then use some electrical tape, cut to size, just covering the face. Pay attention to backgrounds, if you are scared, then you don't want pics of the kiddies or mom and dad in the background. Best bet is to hang up a multicolored sheet for the background. OKay, MEN, YOU are not defined by your penis, or you shouldn't be (where have I heard THAT before?). This Cock size thing has gotten way out of proportion ( did I just say that?). If a woman NEEDS a bigger cock, then she is NOT doing her kegel exercises. If you don't believe me , ask your doctor. Men, you should be doing kegals too. The stronger those muscles the more you can "twitch" inside a woman. Ask any woman, they LIKE that. So, guys, take pics of MORE than just your cock. See above for suggestions. Full body shots, artfully posed, are the ticket. Whether you be man or woman. Action shots are a whole nother kettle of stew. I'll save that for another forum. AFTER , I get yelled at for THIS one. LOL Would love to hear what YOU have to say on the topic. Oh, BTW, I maybe divorced NOW, but, I was married for eighteen years and we were swinging for all but the first six months of our marriage. We ever met with a couple the weekend before the final papers were signed. So, I'm NOT a "no-nothing" single guy. Swingonmyvine

taking one for the team - - Very well said... this is a great topic. Anyone interested in adding it to the Swingers Wiki? ThoughtGarden may have some good words. Here is the wiki: http://wiki.swingular.com.

Lifestyle friendly camping - - we go to one here in michigan it is a nude swingers camp and no one under 18 can come in we love it there

Does Penis Enlargement Exist? - Help us cut through some penis BS - I've wondered since my double hernia surgery in March of 2004, my size got smaller. What use to be 8x5.5 prior to surgery, is now 6x5.5 two inches less in length. Do I have grounds for a law suit? I use to be the hit of the few house parties I went to, and among the few couples who enjoyed their time with me. But now I'm just the average joe looking to get laid. Also in 2005 I suffered a groin injury lifting furniture while moving a friend. Between the hernia surgery and the groin injury I have also gotten to the point that an orgasm is delayed. I read a muscle magazine once, and it dicussed delayed (retarded) ejaculation, due to steroid use, and straining of the groin while body building. Enzyte claims to be giving out free one month samples. Who would be a better testing ground than a group of over sexed swingers? Iron

Interracial Sex - Would you? - Hi All~ Being new to this forum, but a veteran of other forums, I'd just like to add my humble opinion on the subject of bias & prejudice. Why it surprises anyone that it still exists in this lifestyle mystifies me. After all, we are a microcosm of society, and just because someone enters this lifestyle, it doesn't mean they leave a lifetime of learned prejudice at the door. I don't agree with it, and I'll never accept it, but I'm not surprised by it. If those with a bias do last in this lifestyle, they will eventually learn to accept all people for who they are. The alternative is that they don't last, because the majority of us will not accept them! If we as swingers can help just one other couple or person to become enlightened, then we've done far more than society as a whole. We are by far a marvelous bunch of people. J

What about the lifestyle didn't meet your expectations? - Preconceptions and disappointment. - I'm home bored, so stop here if you don't want to read a bunch of shite. lol. I think we both entered the lifestyle with some preconceived notions of what the people in the LS would be like, but that was mostly from our limited experience with being vanilla and having LS peeps try to hit on us. It just seemed creepy, desperate and gross at the time. We assumed most of the players would be super aggressive, ready to fuck anyone and have zero interest in relationships outside of sex. Our initial entry was simply to watch and be watched. We quickly learned that there are just as many wonderful people in the LS as out of it. Maybe more. There will always be the outliers, the few percentage on each end of the spectrum that are more extreme, but that happens in any population. Overall, it was a happy surprise. So that would be a negative expectation that wasn't met. As far as things we were hoping would happen or expectation that weren't met, we have very few. But we also went into the labyrinth without really expecting or assuming anything. I don't think we were naive enough to think that this segment of the population was somehow immune from the social characteristics that reveal themselves in any other social class or group. You will always have the "cool kids" the "shy people" the "jocks" the "geeks" the people who classify themselves as the "pity party" and blame the world for their problems. Those things will exist anywhere and should. Swingers are a diverse group of people with a few, maybe very few, common goals. Those goals I think are to meet others with social deviancy and those interested in expanding their sexual experiences or simply to meet new friends. Swinging, in itself, doesn't solidify your beliefs in anything else (politics, food preferences, choice of travel location, or even how or what you are looking for as swingers). I think that is where expectations can fail. If a person goes into a situation thinking, "I/we think "x" so everyone else must think "x" as well", they are bound to be disappointed. I've said this a lot of times, the lifestyle is not black and white. Life isn't black and white. There will be frustrations around every turn if you allow yourself to be duped into thinking your way of thinking is more than just your viewpoint, that it is universal to everyone. I see people complaining of flakes, people who meet once then run away, etc. That's how they roll. That's their truth. It's what they are comfortable with or wanting and who am I to judge. That being said, I don't have to associate with them and hopefully learn how to avoid that situation or become more efficient at finding people with similar interests. The lifestyle is work. Sometimes a lot of work. I think it's foolish to think that it should be easy to find 4 people who all jive. Think about how many people you have dated before settling on the right one for you. And to assume that somehow changes in the lifestyle and that after chatting on kik for a few weeks then meeting over drinks will somehow magically connect you. Ugh. Sometimes it happens. Sometimes not. But I wouldn't expect it. For others, the thought of any connection past the one-nighter is absurd. Why would you want to make friends with your fuck-buddies? It may be too risky and cause too many emotions. Point is, we are all different and that is what makes the journey so beautiful. And, just a note about flakes, since it is a recurrent theme. Yes, maybe there are more flakes in the lifestyle, but I'm guessing it's specifically related to the nature of the LS. Swinging for some can be very intimidating and frightening. Sometimes the chase is much more fun than the fucking. Not excusing them that do flake, it seems a problem for sure, but I think I understand, at least in part, why it happens so much. There is so much social pressure not to be in the lifestyle and most were brought up without it being the normal way to live. So society is telling us we are wrong, gross, deviant, etc. Add to that the fear of actually getting naked and fucking someone else and it can cause a lot of anxiety in some. When we first started we were petrified to even go the parties thinking it was going to be a fuck/rape fest. lol. Turned out we were wrong but it was a learning process. Lastly, if you are already treading carefully and the couple/person you are supposed to be meeting gives off any bad vibes, maybe flaking is best. It's hard not to hurt someone's feelings and honesty isn't always what happens. I know we have been honest with couples and it turned into a shit-show. Why don't you like us? If you only meet us and give us a chance we can prove we are wonderful. Other's like us, why don't you. It's hard to be honest at times about why there isn't a connection. May flaking be a way to spare feelings? I don't know. There are probably a plethora (Hefe, do you know what a plethora is?)of reasons people flake and some of those my be that they are just douches. But likely there are other people that aren't and are just trying to get out of a situation they are unfamiliar with. Avoid the douches but maybe give those others a second chance. Evil: always good topics you bring to the table. So you think because people like sex they should be good at it? I know a lot of people who love food but suck at cooking. haha. Maybe having too many options on the table can also make people lazy. I don't have to try hard if I know tomorrow is another partner. To some it's the quantity and not the quality. But I can see why the expectation would be there. All in all we really have no complaints. It's been a fascination journey. Some ups, some downs, but always and adventure. We will keep our expectations low, both of ourselves and those around us. Less disappointment that way. I'm going back to sitting in my underwear, drinking a beer and watching TV. Zero expectations. haha. :) Mr. SRO

Christian Swingers - - again cudos to Don, its noones business but mine wether or not I ask for forgiveness from god. and best wishes to everyone wether they do or not have fun playing. jeremy