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Help With Wife - Wife has fantasies but is super hesitant to experiment. - Personally I think you might be a little too eager (can't blame you, we all were when we started) and pushing just a little too hard to make her fantasy a reality. Rather than trying to find a way to get around the "Catch 22" of her fantasy maybe just explore it more verbally and see if it evolves into some kind of scenario that she is comfortable with that more easily can happen in the real world. The most successful swingers we know, ourselves included, arrived at where they are by being open and supportive of each other's fantasies and desires without forcing them in any way. In other words, be patient, explore your fantasies verbally and maybe role play, a LOT, with each other before you jump into anything that either of you isn't quite ready for. You might be surprised as you fantasize openly and honestly how your fantasies might evolve and become something that you eventually can and will make a reality. You know your wife better than anyone and maybe she does need a little nudge but most of the swingers we've known over the years who've crashed and burned did so because one partner pushed the limits too fast and didn't wait for the more hesitant partner to catch up. In our case we were quite surprised and what our fantasies morphed into when we really dug deep and talked about the truly deviant (by local standards anyway-lol) aspects of our fantasies. Sorry, I know that's probably not the kind of advice you were hoping for but it's been our observation over a rather lengthy swinging career. Another thought, if you're bound and determined to make your first swinging experience a MFM, is to find a guy who is okay with just watching you two play or maybe getting involved in some soft swinging...i.e. back rubs and or touching but no intercourse. We were soft swap for the first year or two of our swinging life and it was great fun and took the pressure off until we were ready to take the next step. Best of luck! edit- Sorry about what now seems like a long rambling response. In my defense it was pre-coffee. [em]Emo_79[/em]

Couples Copulating - How the hell do ya match up? - [b]Well, here's one less way for us folks here in Central Florida to copulate.[/b] http://www.theledger.com/article/20111211/NEWS/111219907/1410?Title=Swingers-Club-Shut-Down-by-Sheriff-s-Detectives

Cumming - In pussy or mouth - [quote=Utahldscouple]Do you have to choose?[/quote] Not sure what you are asking exactly? If the universe really is totally cause and effect, 100% deterministic, and it only feels like we are choosing, then we don't have to choose, because we really can't choose. If it's not, and we are free to choose, then every decision is a choice. If you mean do we have to choose between playing bareback in an exclusive pre-tested group and or playing with or without protection, outside of the group, well, that's relative to whatever honest agreement the people within the group have chosen and abide by. We have spent more time as swingers outside of any such group. Whether we do or don't agree to play with someone, and then what we all agree to do and or not to do together, with any playmates we meet, always involves some discussion about safety practices and other factors. So out in the general swinger's population there are a lot more maybes which come down to choosing.

Swingers cars??? - What ya driving?? - jeep cherokee blue ford truck.

New Swingers Club in Utah - Gauging interest in new club - Love it, we went to Secrets in Orlando and loved it.

Can someone enlighten me? - - [quote=EVILDOERS]Naw, no trick. We just post shit to vent or to amuse ourselves. We aren't really out there beating the bushes for more pussy/cock. Have plenty if we want it and are at that phase in our swinging careers where we're content to just hang with our homies...or any one of the great friends we've made over the years and if sex happens then it's the frosting on the cupcake but it's certainly not required or expected. Just thought it terribly odd that simply changing our primary pic would elicit so many blind friend requests and that so many would be from people who have zero content in their profiles. Just because we're semi-retired swingers doesn't mean we don't like meeting new peeps and couldn't be enticed to come out of retirement for the right offer.:-) C'mon you guys, if you're gonna write/friend request us at LEAST read our profile (yeah I know it's longer than War and Peace, but there are SUBTLE little "hints" in there about what we are and more importantly aren't looking for). And give us SOMETHING that might give us a reason to think we have something in common or would want to at least hang out over drinks or something. We've totally broken the ignore button on our 'puters already. [/quote] We xeriscaped a few years back and got rid of most all of the old resource demanding bushes, plants, pussy and cock and replaced them with drought resilient trees, stone pathways, patios, bark, drought resilient plants and sculptures from a local artist and of course drought resilient pussy and cock.

Ice Breakers In Ogden - - Rumors - We've been up there, and yeah it would be worth looking into. Goldenhand - Its on Highway 89 between Wall Ave and that Pepsi warehouse. AMMEND - I think North and South Ogden is pretty decent, Ogden City not so good. Now West Jordan is the place to be for swingers!

Swingers now officially a high risk group for STDs and STIs - Do your own research - [quote=EVILDOERS]Perhaps more accurately, you were "STD (actually STI is a more current and descriptive term) free" at that moment you were tested (many STI's have various incubation periods before they are seriologically detectable-HIV can take up to 6 months). Additionally many STI's (most strains of HPV) there is currently no test for. So you are STI free for only those STI's that were tested for in your panel. There are MANY intections that can be spread sexually that one wouldn't normally consider an STD. Sorry, don't mean to shit in your Cheerios but far too many of us have a severe case of cognitive dissonance when it comes to STI's in the lifestyle. Swinging (and life, as pointed out by CHETDO) is a risk. You can minimize the risk somewhat by adopting certain protocols and behaviors but never decrease it to zero as long as you continue to swing. If you swing you must accept that you are engaging in risky behavior and be okay with that. We've been around the scene actively and inactivley for a long time and have seen and heard it all as far as those who would delude themselves that taking any of the above actions (other than monogamy) would make them safe from STI's. The sad truth is that MOST of us (if not all) have been exposed to and likely carry some form of STI already. If this were not the case they would offer Gardisil to adults. So that horse has likely already left the barn, so to speak. It's a little like riding a motorcycle. If you don't want to be involved in a motorcycle accident, don't ride. If you don't want an STI don't swing. Helmets (condoms) can help but some asshole can still run over you. [em]Emo_67[/em] [/quote] Well, it has pretty much been 6 months between test. As for HPV yes she even had a pap-smear. Most everybody on the planet that has ever been sexually active probably contracted HPV at some point the question is whether or not their bodies cleared it. In our case that seems to be the case. At least there is no visible evidence to be found. Well, frankly it will probably be a full year before we run into someone willing to be oh so exclusive, that we find attractive and they find us attractive etc., etc., and at that point there will be some re-testing. In the meantime, we will be happy fucking each other silly and maybe allowing others to watch us fuck each other silly whilst we watch them fuck each other silly. If that is how we roll, as these crazy kids put it, no problem. We will re-test in about three months and then six months and a year regardless. Neither one of us can count the number of people we have sexed up on both hands time three and some change since we started this swing thing. In all that time and with all the others we have known oh so intimately we have always remained more attracted to each other and aroused by each other then anyone else. As I keep saying.....We are pretty fucking lucky!! If monogamy is the order of the day, or the end all experience then let it be! We suspect there are still a few sexy adventures,including others in some fashion, yet left in life.

Two For Two Does Not Add Up To Three - Sorry got out of bed on wrong side - Can I just add to this. I am so sick of all these people that say they are swingers and have "just want to have fun" on their profile and then you get to know them and they tell you "Well, the female half doesn't like to play with other males until she gets to know them". Well, I got so sick of all the mfemale halves of the couple that we were supposed to text and get to know like 2000 times before there was a chance in hell we could all play together........... If ever? This site is "SWINGular"! For swingers! Not couples looking for another woman to add to the mix!!! I mean, I am all for getting to know ppl, but seriously! I am on here for sex!!! Not lifelong friends!

Ways to point out Swingers in public - - [quote=FUNCOUP4SEX]I wear an ankle bracelet on my right ankle, which is supposed to indicate we are into Swinging/Hotwifing. Haven't had one person approach us, or appear to notice it at this point. But it's fun and naughty, so we still go out with it. :) [/quote] Ah yes, the old (hot) wives tale of the ankle bracelet. [em]Emo_4[/em] Got into a rather heated argument with a guy on the other swingsite we're on regarding that subject a few years ago. He was ADAMANT that it was a surefire way to identify other swingers as well as hotwives. I finally posted a pic of a group of tweens I saw down at City Creek Center...all wearing ankle bracelets. [em]Emo_49[/em]