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Question - do you talk about other swingers? - Smoke.... It's a fine line, being discreet and wanting to share bad experiences. I think you hit the nail on the head with your 'share with friends' comment. I have a few couples that I spend time with who 'look out for me'. They know that I see single guys and are pretty frank with me when they have a bad experience. In fact, recently, I got an IM from one of them that started, "in your ongoing quest to find the ultimate single man, AVOID _______ at all costs" It was pretty funny. I appreciate these people who look out for me...... you know who you are !!! Better to share the great experiences eh? Enjoy! -Te

how do i get my girlfriend into lifestyle? - - I assume you two watch XXX porn. Does any porn with multi partners, gal/gal seem to make her more juicy or hot after? this might be a clue. Also dont forget to tell her that this is not some line you just one day have to decide to jump over and it means you have sex with others. TO us it just meant stopping to say hey! What is wrong with nudity? What is wrong seeing others having sex or being seen? This is all normal and a big part of our lives. Why is it so taboo? Perhaps all she would consider is nudity. Near the start of our adventure we choose to go to desires resort a "clothing optional" beach place South of Cancun. IT does have some 30% on average swingers. But a swinger means many different levels. There you have no pressure and lots of fun even if you choose to wear clothes but it is easy in an atmosphere like that 2k miles from home to let at least some of the clothes come off and see how that feels.. Then seeing all the sexy folks going to dinner dressed up from body paint to stuff you think of as night wear is really a turn on. When she enjoys the mind blowing sex back in the privacy of your room she will either get the interest or not. But first I would think you need to just man up and be able to talk about stuff or this gal is not for you!

To cover up or not to cover up - Slut shaming and the lifesyle - The two of us are both sexual by nature. Repressing our sexuality, to conform to conservative standards never felt quite right. Human sexual desire, and a full measure of sexual self expression, for most of us, requires at least one other human being that you can trust and that you want to share your sexual expression with, that also trust you and in return wants you sexually too. For some of us sexual self expression and fulfillment may include the desire to be sexually active with more than one person and in some cases include a desire for more than one gender. Swinging and the ever expanding category of people that are included within the community, perhaps, make the potential for sexual fulfillment more available. So how do you feel about balancing the joy of freely expressing your sexuality and the need to self protect in a world where not everyone understands boundaries? Can we agree that person to person, couple to couple, or members within a play group, involved in any actual in the flesh connections, that may include sex, that can and are happening within the community, in the vast majority of instances, only include people with an established attraction, and an certain level of established trust? People can only cross physical boundaries, if and when, they are near enough to the person with the boundaries, they are either invited, or not invited to cross. In the digital world, visual expressions and written displays of our sexuality, and some among us are overtly sexual, are kind of like a message in a bottle, flung to the tide. No matter how much detail you include in the messaging, anyone, walking along the beach might and will read it. If they get a little or even considerable pleasure from the message, so be it, no harm done. If they know they are not your target market or recognize that you are not what they're looking for, no harm done, so long as everyone remains respectful and understands the concept of consensual. Understanding messaging, when direct, or subtle, is perhaps a key that opens doors, that lead to other doors, that lead to places within us and in others, we want to have visited, but not by just anyone. Lelu, the Fifth Element, played by Milla Jovovich, in the movie of the same name, at one point in the movie, tells Corbin Dallas, played by Bruce Willis, "Not without my permission". Lelu, in just so many words, tells Dallas volumes about, who she is, and at that moment how she sees him, and that possibilities may exist, but are always consensual. As is the case, with Lelu and Dallas, we all send out messages, subtle and not so subtle, about our desires and our sexuality. We all open doors within us to people that discover the key and some doors are really not so hard to enter, whereas, others are. Perhaps, one sure way to close a lot of doors, is to behave like some construction worker cat calling "come on baby, you know you want it" to a attractive woman, walking down the street, as if her dressing sexy and revealing, for whoever she is heading to see, or just so that she might send a subtle message about desire and mood, entitles anyone to anything more than a respectful visual acknowledgement of her beauty. A subtle, respectful acknowledgment, with no expectations, and no pressure, such as a smile and a nod may, perhaps, begin something. Banging on her door, and taking verbal liberties, without an invitation, is more than kind of creepy. Perhaps, not to understand that, it's creepy, is even creepier. Slut shaming and taking liberties at any level, even within the lifestyle community, remains kind of creepy. Should swingers let their fear of the creepy sort inhibit their outward expressions, like an attractive woman, might decide to go out of her way to avoid the ignorant, uninvited comments made by a few workers without a clue and consequently without a hope or a prayer, to have anything consensual with a woman like her? Is reading, remembering and respecting signals when sent, perhaps paramount toward the development of all sorts of relationships, including swing relationships?

Secret Swingers Club Ogden, UT - Clubs - It's called unspoken You got to know a member there's also the New Yorker in Salt Lake

geting in LOVE while swinging - - Posted By: XPLORR94248 Reply posted on: Aug 5, 2008 - 7:12 am Someone mentioned Polyamory. Poly people, at least in most communities, feel that swinging and poly are not compatible.. Fact is, why not? If you are open and honest about your poly leanings and totally honest with your mate and any relationships you may have... then why not poly as well. I know that several people in here and on other sites, swingers feel threatened if you are overtly open abut your feelings. If one truely loves and trusts their partner/SO/wives; husbands/girlfriends; bopyfriends and whatever other relationships that I may have missed, they should not be threatened. If you fall in love with someone that you have sex with.... you have 2 choices..... Tell that person and their spouse and your spouce and see where it goes or simply walk away with the thoughts and get on with your life. The 3rd option is not an option.... If one is poly...thier primary relationship/s take precedence. =============================================================== I don't think it is so much of trust and love that is necessary for a poly relationship. There are, in theory at least, benefits. OTOH, NILIF. So, you are going to add complications. Many marriages already are at risk or in divorce. So, it is difficult to handle one person. What about 3? Now, it is a very nice idea to say that whomever the wife plays with is whomever she plays with. However, the reality is that it will have some effect on me. Is it always so easy to divorce yourself from the situation? Yes, in theory, you can say that when you come home, the other people are out of your lives. In practice, it often has a way of creeping back in to the primary relationship.

FF acceptable and MM not acceptable? - Why is female on female sex acceptable and male on male is not? - There's more issues with this question then I care to get into on chat. If you wanna talk with no fluff like is added on these chats many times then feel free to messaged me. But 2 things most everyone likes to watch girls kiss. A significantly smaller portions like to watch guys kiss like I'm guessing 15% . There in is your first. Second is many guys say there bi or curious just to get with the woman. This to me is really a non question the answers are obvious. Good luck in your search. When it comes to guys I'm pretty picky. Again supply demand. I could post and add online hosting for bi guy and have 10, 20 sumtn year old hot guys message me within couple hours,. Same add for women good luck. Scientific data I've read shows women think sex 10 times daily, men 19. Anyways I think you probably know the answer and are frustrated. Just figure out what is or isn't working and keep it up. Lastly this is definitely not an add for me looking for guys. I have no problem in that area if your curious feel free to message to talk but not looking for boyfriend currently. And I wouldn't look on swingers site for one. Sexy couple's HMU anytime I can't wait to dance more this weekend love it

On Premise Swingers Club - SLC - I am sure that there are a lot of folks that would support your venture. However you would have your work cut out for you and I hope you have a good law firm working for you and are able to do it. I know that in some places in the USA there are clubs that are held in a large private residence and that is the only way they can exist in those cities. But police have a tendency to treat the whole thing like it is organized crime. I know that we have members of the community that are cops and ex-cops and they should contact you privately and thus may be of some help or guidance. I do know of one case in Utah where all cars parked by the business were photographed by the cops and folks harassed and thus shut down and another where they simply ran the proprietor of a liberal magazine out of business. I wish you luck.

TEMPTATIONS ( CANCUN ) - CRAZY PARTY AND FUN - We have been to Temptations and the OP is correct it’s a non stop party with all inclusive drinks and food. However no playroom and not too many swingers and topless optional only. There is a quiet pool for those who want to relax. We have reservations for their sister resort Desire Maya Pearl in June. That resort is clothing optional, a playroom and I am sure a party atmosphere also based on previous experience with this group of resorts and cruises. It is also a couples only and while we are going with other swingers we hope to meet more swingers while we are there. It’s all a matter of what your looking for.

Hosts Needed - Looking for local hosts in each major area! - Hello Chris and I would love to host in the Ohio area.. We host swingers all the time when in the area...We've been in the lifestyle for over 6yrs now and hosting for over 2yrs. so if you are interested in having us host please feel free to let us know...

Wannabes and net fakes - Will the real lifestyle members please stand up - Plenty of "real" swingers get labeled as fakes every day. Plenty of fake swingers, get mistaken for "real" ones just as often. That phrase should not be subjective to whether or not someone stood you up, faked a profile, or used old pics, just to name a few negative things. Those people are simply assholes. Even if they fancy themselves swingers. It has happened to us on many occassions that someone has claimed to have seen one of her pics either in a mag, or on a paid porn site, which automatically makes us "fakes". We have been labled as "fakes" based on the fact that we choose not to (primarily) meet with couples, thus we must be fake. We have been accused of being "fakes" because we are selective about with whom we meet, and even more selective about with whom we play. NO fakes here. Just smart people who know what we are looking for. People who have an axe to grind are typically the first to call out "fakes" on sites like these. I may not have the benefit of 25 years of swinging to support that supposition, but it is what is obvious to me. I am sure that there are a great many "fakes" out there who are only interested in wasting other peoples time with their bullshit, and believe me when I say that we have met one or two over the years...but I wouldnt automatically brand someone a "fake" based on the fact that they didnt show up for a meeting. (That is not to say that we would excuse that behavior, because if someone stands us up they had better be dead or we are done with them for good.) But who knows..maybe they just got cold feet? Maybe they really DID get a flat tire on the way to see you....shit happens. Luvbugs! (mR.) :p