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Place to Hang out and Play - Have an Idea - It surely seams that the number of swingers in Utah is LARGE. I have heard some thing before like, (Utah has the most subscriptions to sexy magazines per capita) and that the numbers of swingers in Utah is in the top 5 on the list. So with all those people how is it Utah is still so controlling of what the people want? Here in Florida we have ON PREMISE clubs that are completely legal. Yes every now and then the news tries to gain a few points with the religious WRONG. For the most part if the club keeps it's nose clean everyone else stays out of it. We also have house parties and places called house parties that are 3 days a week every week. It's by invitation only and you BYO-drinks, a dish to pass and most donate to the cause. Keep in mind these are BY INVITATION ONLY... Meaning if you don't donate you may never be invited back. The owners DO live there and have regular bills sent to these homes. There are some that move around from hotel to hotel also. By invitation only... About a year ago a house party was busted out in the sticks. A few people were harassed by the local news jerks. Since then that TV station has lost a large number of people watching them due to their ON CAMERA BS... We are members of an ON PREMISE club in Port Richey, Fl. The police have been trying to find a reason to shut our doors a few times. 1st go around was people that lived in the vicinity. This brought on an investigation and the TV NEWS CREWS. They interviewed many of the homeowners and also the people in the stores below the club. Well the neighborhood wanted us out and the store owners wanted us to stay pointing out how clean and decent things have been since the BAR upstairs became a nice quiet swingers club. About 6 months or so ago the TV NEWS crews were at it again. This time the people in the neighborhood watch all around the club had said their crime rate had dropped like a rock. NO reports of anyone ever needing the police or an ambulance and no homeless people hanging around trying to sponge off people anymore either. Also no broken bottles in the parking lot. So now the locals are happy with us... Go figure...

Moab Utah - Swingers in Moab - We go to Moab all the time! Would be great to meet up with another couple down there. :-)

Swingers cars??? - What ya driving?? - [quote=TNT4FUN2]A Yugo and 74 AMC Pacer.[/quote] A Yugo and a Pacer? Sweet! I'm hoping to trade up to a 70 Gremlin. Just seems like a lot of car.

Here's something Ive been curious about - - In a nut shell, perhaps, we should conclude that, Cheaters and the truly happily monogamous are the only ones that are not swingers to some degree if you define swinger as someone that prefers a sexual existence that is not 100% monogamous and lives that way honestly. Then we can suggest that swinging has a place for most people. Preference is not the end all in what actually happens. Natural selection means that some will be more successful at mating regardless of their preference. Some singles and some couples have no problem getting laid. They will be able to successfully have sex on their own terms. Singles and couples with a predisposition for pair bonding or tournament mating will find their way into the swing scene and either be couples or singles not out of preference but out of the circumstances surrounding their lives. Sex is so important and so strong an instinctual drive people will take it as they can get it and have sex in circumstances that do not exactly match their instinctual preference if their instinctual preference is not readily available. In nature pretty much all mammals, birds and many other species fall into two mating categories pair bonding or tournament species. Interestingly enough, many scientist who study humans from the point of view of our biology and our social interactions currently feel we fall somewhere in between with a lean toward pair bonding for many. Women may tend to be pair bonders in higher numbers than men. Humans, generally, be they pair bonders or tournament mating sorts are not 100% monogamous by nature. A significant percentage of humans given the possibility of some level of non-monogamy will still choose monogamy but most would enjoy the some non-monogamous activity even if it will never actually happen due to social conditioning. Pair bonding species are usually not 100% monogamous but do for lack of a better term desire and if they are successful have a significant other which shares the burdens and I would say the joys of raising a family together. The desire and the instinctive drive to have a partner is stronger than the desire to avoid the burdens and work associated with maintaining a

Cypress Cove Nudist Resort & Spa - Information - Cypress Cove is very nice. It is the oldest nudist resort in Florida, but has had many improvements. There are two pools, a hot tub, resturants and a large lake that you can paddle boat in. The crowd is older than Paradise Lakes or Caliente so you will feel young. There are swingers around, but atmosphere is pretty quiet. The accomodations are very nice, close to the pools and the other activities. I am sure you will enjoy your stay. We love to go there for a quiet weekend getaway and we do know a lot of other couples in the lifestyle that go there. Have Fun Gary and Kathy

SLC Couple for MFM+M+M - Wife wants small gangbang - [quote=class1111]Goodlife, I knew one woman who desired this and the hard part was screening who she wanted. After all YOU are extremely high level and I have to think you want men who are decent. Along with wanting those few men to be appealing, and have nice cocks to play with. I friend of mine in the past found it was better for her to meet and enjoy a few guys one on one and introduce those guys in the group. As the Queen built her harem, she knew what she was getting, how they performed, and that they were not dumb ass homophobe that dont want other cocks around. This women said that it was the best experience to have three guys and that anymore became cluttered. She wanted erotic sensuality as opposed to the sense of just being a piece of meat. No insult to those who like that, so no hate mail please, WE ALL have our kinks. That is why we love seeing post like this.[/quote] The problem here is you are in Utah. Think of how many gorgeous but divorced women are here, 30-40’s, lived a suppressed marriage for years and now want to have fun, but still have the “can’t be single” mindset. Meaning those sought after single guys just don’t stay single long. When you travel outside of Utah you do meet these guys that have been joining us swingers for years. The ones here that have years experience pop in and out based on relationships.

KUTV News Story on Swingers - News - [quote=CHEFFETTE][quote=DELICIOUSLYWET][quote=CHEFFETTE][quote=DELICIOUSLYWET]Gasp! Tens of thousands of swingers here in Utah. I believe Utah now has a slightly higher-than-average divorce rate. The national divorce rate is 3.4% with Utah slightly higher at 3.6%. The percent of divorced residents in Utah is reported as 9.3% which is the 18th lowest in the nation. Don't ask me how those numbers reconcile. It has something to do with immigration into the state I am guessing. New Jersey reports that 8.5% of it's residents are divorced and that is the lowest in the nation. Well what do you think? Did more than 3.6% of all the swinger couples, that you have met end up getting a divorce? Was it over swinging? Are more than 9.3% of the swingers population divorced? This would include all the singles now swinging that were once married. One woman telling the media how swinging ended her marriage is anecdotal at best. Do I believe she is telling the truth? Yes I do. Do I personally believe swinging ads an extra element of jeopardy to a marriage? Yes I do. Do I believe there are quite a few people that would be happier staying away from the swinging lifestyle? Yes I do. Never-the-less, most of the couples, we have personally met, that are swingers seem to enjoy swinging and frankly enjoy doing it together. Do I believe there are quite a few couples who will enjoy swinging? Yes I do, we certainly have enjoyed the lifestyle experience as do a lot of swinging couples we have met. In the end if you are a married couple you have to make the decision based on the two of you, as to whether or not swinging is a good thing in your lives individually and as a couple. As for statistical models as to the divorce rate within the community of swingers well there aren't any. This isn't really a news story it's sensationalist journalism designed to attract viewers. Anyway, the divorce rate has been going down since the 1980s and swinging has been on the rise since the 1980s so you could make an analogy that swinging is saving marriage. Yes it would be a bunch of anecdotal bull shit just like this story. [/quote] Right. And swinging doesn't end a marriage anymore than cheating or lying or alcohol abuse or drugs, etc; people end marriages. Any relationship is an invention solely created by those people involved and only they have power over its progress forward. Will swinging or discussions about it lead to problems between people in relationships? Potentially. But any attempt by the anonymous lady in the story to blame swinging for anything is an attempt on her part to avoid accountability. You can't blame the alcohol itself for the drunk. PS, NJ may have a lower divorce rate b/c it's one of the few states that still grants annulment instead of divorce in certain cases.[/quote] And I thought it was all that Frankie Valli music and strolls along the Jersey Shore that rekindled the romance in Jersey nuptials. [/quote] "Oh Frankie, it's so magical when we go down the shore and watch the waves bring medical waste in!" [/quote] So you're saying Ocean City Maryland instead?

Why do you swing? - Why not? - even though we came about it somewhat by accident and somewhat later on, I feel as though we were inherently swingers. it just took a long time to figure out that what society was feeding us and what we were feeling wasn’t wrong. we have the most amazing conversations and the best sex ever. we have more love and intimate times with each other and share the things in life that really matter and can still be individuals with wants and desires and can be happy for one another in the others joy and pleasure and still know we have that rock and hsafe place to rely on. we are having more fun than ever. hit us up if you wanna join in our fun.

Secret Swingers Club Ogden, UT - Clubs - We are thinking about making our first trip out to unspoken tonight, has anyone been as of late and know if people are actually going out there?

Dating other Couples - Have you done it? - Been there, done that, have the t-shirt. We know plenty of people who've done it, and done it successfully (up to a point), ourselves included. We don't know of many, if any, where it has lasted for more than a few years and didn't end somewhat badly. It CAN be quite heady and has the potential to take swinging to the next level. Unfortunately, it is also exponentially more likely to crank up the drama factor to eleven (out of ten). Quite often each couple has their own "agenda" (for lack of a better term) that is often at odds with the other couple's agenda. We've seen it frequently cause weird jealousies not only between primary partners but also between non-primary partners and in a few extreme notable cases it has ended marriages. In our case, we were relatively long-term swingers at that point who, although never really super active in the scene, felt like we'd checked off most of the things on our swinging bucket list and were somewhat curious if there was more out there to explore in swingerdom...or if we were sort of done with the scene. The couple we started "dating" wasn't really the kind of couple we usually were attracted to and maybe that was part of the allure. They also had a very interesting (to say the least) dynamic in their marriage that really was at odds with that in our relationship. Ultimately they kept pushing boundaries (started throwing the "L" word around and much more), pushed for more and more separate activities and were insidious in slowly and subtly causing rifts, both large and small, as well as a LOT of drama. We actually didn't even realize how much drama and subterfuge had occurred until we were finally out of the situation entirely. We actually miss them a little, at times, and often wonder if there might have been a way to talk things out and come to a better understanding of how to continue on in a healthier way but they've actually gone on to do exactly the same thing to a number of other couples we know (it's a small world in Utah swinging and word gets around) and it seems to be their pattern. Tldr; It can work. It's quite rare when it works long term. It has the potential for disaster. While it's appealing in many ways we don't really recommend it. YMMV

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