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Swingers cars??? - What ya driving?? - A car is a cage. So many swingers ride that there is a separate MC club for them "Swingers on Bikes"...
swinging... - - It was my idea at first to swing with some good friends of ours.... Very bad idea..... The swingers site was his idea.... Very good idea!!!!!!
Swingers now officially a high risk group for STDs and STIs - Do your own research - Don't be ignorant enough to claim you are absolutely 100% STD/STI free. The test panel to clear you of absolutely everything would costs thousands of dollars and require many of the infections to be ACTIVE.
You can do the best you can, but it's unlikely you are as clear as you believe. 8 out of 10 adults in the U.S. has HSV1. How many swingers do you think have it? You will likely be asymptomatic forever, but it's VERY unlikely you don't have it. There are over 100 strains of HPV. A "pap" checks for a few. And men can have it too.
Life is a risk. Do your research and then do what you want. Be as careful as your own risk tolerance allows. But there's no need to blow smoke up the asses of the people that have done their research.
That said. There can't be enough awareness brought to this, so thank you for scaring people into doing some research. :)
Also,
[b]Come get tested at the Utah Aids Foundation.[/b] You don't need an appointment. They do testing Monday and Thursday from 5:00 to 7:00. Aids is FREE and Syphilis, Chlamydia, Gonorrhea and Hep C are cheap or free based on current grant money. There's no reason not to swing by.
Why do they run? - Why do most couples run when you suggest a real full swap? - I am certain that insecurity has no bearing on the decisions that we make in regard to the lifestyle. What you are suggesting simply isnt for us. We take so much from being in close proximity to each other during our encounters that it would render the experience...perhaps ackward or fruitless, for lack of a better term.
There is a reason that so many couples run from the possibility of what you call \"full swap\". Many years ago when we were first introduced to the lifestyle, \"full swap\" entailed having sexual intercourse with another couple. \"Soft swap\" meant oral play or touching only, no intercourse. Perhaps the deffinition has changed over the years...
I am certain that what you are describing is closer to what traditional polyamory is all about. In fact, there is a reason why the couples that you approach about this subject \"run like the wind\" as you call it. More times than not, it has proven to be destructive to the relationships in question. Best intentions or not, we are all human. Shit happens. Most seasoned swingers know this, and avoid this situation at all costs.
Most of the relationships that we have seen over the years that were as you describe ended in ruin. Most of the people that we have known to consider this method were (coincidentally) new swingers, who had not yet developed a sense of direction or an identity in the lifestyle. There are some mistakes that you can make in the lifestlye without jeopadizing your standing with your mate. There are some that you simply can not. What you are suggesting to other couples, while it may seem like something that would be fun and cool, has proven to be atleast problematic to many other people.
Just our .02 cents.
Best of luck to you both.
Luvbugs! (mR.)
:D
Swingers cars??? - What ya driving?? - Any one doing MOAB in two weeks??
Freedom of the Seas Swinger Cruise Nov 2012 - - [quote=JONJOY17]Is it really that much? We were looking into it but only on the website. Never made any calls... [/quote]
Yeah, go here https://secureregistrationonline.com/freedom_nov_2012/decks.php?affiliateId=6
In retrospec, that isn't too bad. Desire costs $400 a day per couple so this is right in line.
Mav
PS. Anyone want to open a Swingers resort and make some good money? ;)
When age matters.... - - We started playing in our mid twenties and have always had chemistry test rather than an age test. Now that we are in the more "experienced" group of swingers we still use the same chemistry test. We have also noticed that, with a few exceptions, most people we meet at house parties are pretty much the same. Of course the "exceptional" people usually do us the courtesy of laying their biases out on the table right up front.
Bob
Your identity and security may be open. - access to profiles. - hey weguaranteeu where did the fat geek thread go?i wanted to reread it to see all your great spelling but i can not find the thread.did you delete it????????if some one changed your profile why have you left it there for all to see?you could have just as easily printed it or copied it to another page to save for evidence.hell you deleted your pictures.as i said before i do not know of any swinging site that want your ssn so grow up,take the lashing that you deserved for calling all male swingers fat geeks and move on.try to go to your happy place,take a chill pill and just relax.
Phil
Whats good for the goose is good for the gander... - - Our experience has been that swinger in general seem to be nicer and more open than their prudish cousins. However we must remember that swingers are still a cross section of society and we all know that society in general is well stocked with assholes and unfortunately some will spill over into the lifestyle. All we can do is ignore them and hope they disappear quickly.
Bob
Moab Utah - Swingers in Moab - ^^^This^^^
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