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Staying a couple in the lifestyle - - Our experience so far:
Religious > naturist > meet naturists/nudists who are swingers > soft swap > non-religious > full swap with couples same room > full swap separate room
Many lifestyle couples we know have followed a very similar path.
The rest of some of their evolution concerns us, especial polyamorous couples, triples, etc.
The tendency seems to be (very generalized) is to date and play separately. If the relationship becomes polyamorous, divorce seems VERY common.
We like having more than physical chemistry. Personality and interests are part of the package, but it is difficult to get an 8 way connection (chemistry between all 4 people).
We actually like the friendships more than playing, so we are comfortable where we are at the moment.
Thoughts?
Younger couples - How hard is it for younger couples - [quote=BR3RD]Who wouldn’t be attracted to younger couples? It’s usually the younger couples who are not attracted to the older ones.[/quote]
True that! If a young couple feels some frustration now, just wait until they reach our age. It will be even more frustrating. But hang in there young swingers. Your best days are still ahead of you.
Extramarital Affairs and the Lifestyle - Where do you stand? - **Bottom line here is can we just stop all the finger pointing, labeling, and judging? Morals are a personal thing and eveyone is entitled to theirs and I\'m of the mind set...don\'t force yours down my throat and I won\'t force mind down yours.**
Wrong. No one is interested in passing judgement here. Simply stating the facts as they are.
Also, I think that some of us have returned to the cheating vs swingnig morality issue that we agreed earlier was NOT the intended direction this thread was going in. The issue IS a moral one, as someone pointed out. However it isnt whether or not CHEATING is the same as SWINGING.
Since the thread has been joined by so many other now (AND I THANK YOU GUYS FOR STEPPING UP AND SHARING!) several differing points of view have emerged.
Some \"vanilla\" or traditional people attempt to convince their mates to swing (MALE OR FEMALE) and for whatever eason that partner says NO. That person can not accept this answer for whatever reason, and decides it is worth risking everything they hold dear to swing.
We have explored that.
On the other hand, other \"vanilla\" people HAVE NEVER, AND WOULD NEVER EVEN ATTEMPT TO BROACH THE SUBJECT TO THEIR MATES. For fear of hearing NO, for fear of divorce...whatever...These same people, as one of our single gentleman pointed out...would look down upon us and label us sinners for being \"SWINGERS\" and all that they quite incorrectly feel that entails, and then in the same breath, go out and CHEAT on their mates. (I know one where she cheated on her husband with the pasteur of their church!)
Cheating is actually more accpetable than swinging to a LOT of \"vanilla\" people. To share their mate, agree on the format, and practice an open dialogue about it is unthinkable.
To cheat is not.
>>TO ADDRESS THE CHEATING SWINGER ISSUE AGAIN<<
This was never meant to single out you single guys out there, and I am not going to defend this post, or our stand on it. If you have read our profile, you should understand that we date single men and women almost exclusively! We just prefer to know the TRUTH about your situation, and beleive it or not, in this lifestyle...that is a tall order.
As someone else said, that is a choice each of you has to make. We would prefer to know the truth about your situation so that we can decide to say NO for fear of creating hurt feelings and contributing to the end of a relationship that we are not even a part of. My mind will not allow me to justify what my heart knows to be just plain wrong.
Luvbugs!
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Las Vegas - Swingers clubs ect. - [quote=PARTYINLV]Playhouselv allows single guys on Fridays only. Saturdays are couples and single females [/quote]Well if we are going to get technical they allow them on Thursday nights as well. But the statement was in general, single males can attend.
Secret Swingers Club Ogden, UT - Clubs - We are going to unspoken tomorrow night. Anyone else going?
Swingers at work... - - Work??? I thought all swingers were independently wealthy ('Cept me ... of course *Sigh*)
Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - [quote=BIGREID8]I want it SOOOOO bad. My husband finally agreed and changed our profile to him being bi comfortable so people know he will do that. I CAN"T wait to have two cocks inside my pussy ;-)[/quote]We would be glad to assist you with this
Mormons - - [quote=SKICOUPLE]See what I mean...who wants to question others religious motivations on a swinger site? I find it hard to believe others would fall for this question from the original post. So being in the LDS church sucks for you...move on and find some folks to get naked with.[/quote]
Right on!
This is a pointless, unsexy, and stupid topic to discuss on a site like this! It comes up every once in a while...super “accepting and open minded people” often are the most closed minded of them all. Right on Mormons who explore! ExMo’s, we get your bad feels... but save it for other forums. Who cares what someone’s religion is or was? Protestant, Catholic, Judaism, Muslim, Buddhists, Hindus, JW, Wiccan, agnostic or whatever; don’t knock any of them.
Open mind and positive vibes peeps. We feel the same way about political discussions among swingers. Freak, this isn’t a dating website. Honestly if you’re a hater of any religion or political persuasion...save it for other places. I mean we cant stand communists but seriously we’d tap a super hot communist chick...c’mon. As if the LS isn’t lame enough in UT mixing in hate or bad vibes about any religion or lack of is SO narrow minded and UNSEXY. Live and let live. Keep it sexy people. #openmind #nojudgement
Utah moms (Mormon) TikTok drama - - [quote=Gitterdone]I don't know who that person is but I do know that swingers will ways throw others under the bus. It's happened to me several times mostly to get with the female I was with. Men will tattle on each other in hopes that the female will leave and run to him which never did work. Nonetheless the attempt was there. They ways tell and swingers always talk. Yet this entire time I've kept so many secrets about others and never will reveal anything. Too bad no one else does. I've been around for a long time in the lifestyle especially when I was a couple. We knew about marriages breaking up. Two of who I know personally. Actually three now that I think about it. I'll never name anyone. All I ask is the same respect and keep it to yourself.[/quote]We don’t understand it. We get misery loves company but why sink everyone around because you are jaded.
Camping play? - Opinions - We are looking at some property in Duchesne and turning it in to a swingers camp ground. Do you think anyone would be interested in some thing like that
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