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Has swinging changed? - - I've been trying to quantify the changes we're seeing but it's a little hard to pin down. For one thing, there seem to be quite a few people sticking their heads in and quickly retreating. Perhaps it's the ease of entry that allows "lookie Lous" to sort of check things out without really risking actually MEETING someone. LOL Another thing we've noticed is that there seem to be more people treating swinging as simply another way to hook up for NSA sex. I mean I know at it's core that's what swinging is but it's almost become a wham, bam, thank you ma'am culture rather than the sensuality of sharing your body with a caring generous lover. Foreplay almost seems to have become perfunctory (if it happens at all) and there's more of a "down and dirty by nine thirty" attitude than there used to be. It's almost a hit it and quit it or get in, get out, go home culture now. Many people just seem to be in such a hurry to fuck that they don't really want to take any time to get to know each other a little first. Maybe I'm seeing things but it just seems like it's changed a lot since we started swinging. I was talking to some people on another site and one guy postulated that the changes were due to the scene being so diluted by people with varied interests that there just aren't a lot of "pure" swingers anymore. I dunno, maybe I just need more coffee. [em]Emo_96[/em]

Kik group for UT swingers. - Contact me if your interested in joining a KIK group for Swingers - We would really love to join...

swingin - thought this site was a swingers site - Uand, I already tried that reasoning on the very first page :) I think he just wants to vent.

Why we ORGY - Why we ORGY - [quote=SAMEROOMONLY][size=100]And now, a word from a noob... My wife and I have only been in the LS a few months, but I feel we have experienced quite a variety of experiences in that time, including house parties, LS clubs and basically an orgy party. We felt comfortable at all of them, but certainly the most pressure we have experienced came from the orgy-type party. It has been the only time when random men thought they could basically touch my wife, lift her skirt and ask to fuck her repeatedly, all without an invitation. We are pretty mellow and level-headed, so I think I did a pretty good job of turning them away without causing a scene, but had we been a little more sensitive I think it may have been a huge turnoff. So when I hear the word orgy, I think of a large party where basically everyone is there to just fuck, not socialize, and nobody really cares about who their dick is in or whose dick is in them. That is probably great for a lot of people, and I don't want this to sound flippant or elitist, but us as a couple we seem to have a higher standard than many swingers out there. In our short time we have already encountered non-clean people, irreverent people, very uneducated people, super creepy people and huge drama people. So to just show up at a party and hope that the plethora of couples we are playing with are clean, non-crazy and haven't been fucking everything from here to Texas, well... I just don't assume that to be true. Notice I didn't say much about looks. Yes, looks are important, but to us, we are looking for more just a hole and a pole. My point is, looks are secondary to many other things. And the only way to establish those "other" things, is to get to know the couple a little. Granted, we are super new to this and are moving slowly into the LS and we don't have that "notch on the belt" mentality yet, but so far, some of our best times have been getting to know the people, connecting, feeling that sexual energy between everyone, and then moving into the play room. We don't expect a couple to provide us any missing emotional support we are lacking in our marriage, as we have a great marriage. We also have a great sex life and this is just an adventure we are taking as a couple. It seems to me the orgy scene is more for people with open marriages, full swap different rooms, or people who otherwise don't care who their spouse if fucking. I trust my wife completely, but I don't trust others, and my need to protect her seems natural enough. Oh,maybe in a huge orgy you can both experience things together, but it does seem like you just jump in a pile and fuck whoever is in front of you. If not, then it is more a social, where you all talk first, enjoy each other's company, tell some jokes and get know the couple, then, if interested, you can all go fuck. So to me, that scenario is a social, not an orgy, which is the topic at hand. An orgy is more of a situation where you show up, who cares if you talk, drop your pants and start fucking. It seems more dangerous to me on an STD level as I don't imagine if you fuck 10 girls in a night you are changing condoms every time, or even wearing one, though I realize my assumption may be completely off, just giving you my opinion here as to why I wouldn't be AS interested in an orgy (it still would be fun to watch). Also, questions like "how many people have you fucked this week" and "do you wear protection" are much easier over a glass of bourbon than while sucking on a cock or pussy. Probably a little awkward. So... to finalize this huge monstrosity, different strokes for different folks. We like meeting new couples, we like to make new friends and we feel there is a greater reward with friends with benefits. Just as in our marriage where our sex is great because we know the other person so well, so we think playing with others may be enhanced by our understanding of the other couples needs and desires. Do we ever think it is fun just to meet somebody and play immediately? Probably. But do we think that our long term goals, our health and our mutual respect for each other is better served by meeting a couple, having the time to discuss how we feel about the couple in the privacy of our marriage and then moving forward as we both agree upon is the best way for us? Most definitely. And the small amount of wasted time we may experience trying to arrange meetings is a small price to pay for that piece of mind. We have made great friends, that if we never played with again, would still be our friends, so that is just icing on the cake. And maybe we have been lucky but we haven't experienced a lot of flakes, just a lot of busy, cool people with jobs and families, just like ourselves. So say we all!![/size][/quote] Another well said opinion that we completely agree with.

couples more [oft ] ask for couples or single females. why is th - - WHAT A CROCK!!!!!! We entertain single men...AND we do NOT fall into any one of your previously mentioned categories... What it boils down to is this...WHATEVER YOU ENJOY... To blame single males for STD's is ludacris AT BEST...Like HIV/AIDS is a gay male thing...What a crock of shit...If you were as educated as you just claimed, you would KNOW that is not true...The spread of STD's is from just as previously stated, UNPROTECTED SEX...Not bi males, not gay males, not swingers, not anything but UNPROTECTED SEX.... YES...there are asshole single men who think that swinging is about an easy piece of ass, but to claim they are all that way is simply an asshole trying to stereotype someone...Next thing you know...Black guys have big dicks, white guys can't jump, Jewish people are cheap, etc will be spewing from your keyboard...I cannot believe this utter nonsense.... As to entertaining single men...We do for one simple reason...WE WANT TO!!!!!! Think of this dumbass...How many people did you date before you found a woman stupid enough to put up with your shit for any length of time? I see...I am sure it took you a while... Now...Look at this...How can you ENSURE you will make a friend with anyone? LIMIT the number of people...IT is MUCH easier to connect with a single than a couple...Why, you may ask? Think back to dating or as simple as making a friend...Was it easier to make a friend who was part of a group? or perhaps it was easier when they were also alone and without a friend? Hmmmm.....NOW, add to it the fact that there are so many asshole men married to women who have learned to put up with it...Hmmmmmmm.... NOW you can see why we play with singles....

Camper talk - Swing parties in campers have you done it - Other than Sturgis we have never been on a swingers camping trip, we are definitely in 😀

Swingers in a vanilla bar... - - In my experience, try to ask an innocent question, as in, 'Have you ben to *insert name of local swing club*?'

Joking around with the wife - - Yeah, we know about them being upside down. She said she did it like that to not make it as noticeable to the vanillas that do know about it and for the swingers that do to wonder.

Game for Swingers - Has anyone heard of a new game for lifestyle couples called Titillation? - Yes, we've bought the game ourselves. It's good for a first time with new swingers, good for groups too, but it's admittedly not the best. I'd say average.

UNIVERSAL "SWINGER" SIGN - UNIVERSAL "SWINGER" SIGN - Is there a Universal sign for Swingers? And if there is not, there should be! How many times have you been in a bar or out with your partner and spotted a nice looking couple and wondered???Are they??? What can you say without embarrassing yourself or them by saying, "hey are you in the lifestyle?" We did some looking and found this website http://www.swingrings.com/index.html take a look and tell your friends it would be great if it worked....AND WE ARE NO WAY ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PRODUCT just like the idea so we all can quit guessing. If you know of anything tell the world.