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This lifestyle - What are we really? - MORDON: Huh??
Wow...no easy task to consolidate concepts as broad and inclusive as swinging and/or polyamory into neat little boxes. I'm still trying to follow how you grouped the two into polar opposites.
I'm not sure that the way you're defining either of those would be true for the majority of those in the swinging communities, and especially not Sirensextress or myself.
If I have the ability to to love more than one person...then yes, I suppose I am polyamorous, but NOT in the same way that a couple who is truly polyamorous might view it (I do love not just one but all my children/siblings and whatnot).
You've painted a rather bleak and harsh picture of us non-polyamorists, by boldly stating that swingers are, "friends with benefits....True swinging is having sex just for the sake of having sex. No talking ...no getting to know each other...not caring one iota about the other person. Basically have sex and if the other person dies on the way home ...who give gives a shit!"
That statement is well, to put it bluntly, naive and uninformed.
We've never engaged in sex without talking, or getting to know one another. How else would we know if there's any chemistry?
We care greatly for most of the people we've encountered through swinging, and would most CERTAINLY care if they died on the way home!
In short...we "give a shit"!
I think in it's broadest sense, the term "swinging" is large enough to cater to the appetites of a wide spectrum of people, from those that are inclined to polyamory, to those that prefer to fuck 'em and leave 'em, to those that are the swinging wannabe's, to those that are exclusive.
We are by no means polyamorous, but yes, we've run into couples that are in the truest sense of the word, poly. In fact, we've met couples that have wanted us to participate in the poly lifestyle. However, they are looking for something quite different that what we are looking for.
Neither my wife nor myself are looking to be "married" to another couple, or to become a "secondary" husband/wife to them. Yet, being the "non-polyamorists" that we are, and according to your definition, we should be unable able to maintain very close friendships with any other swingers.
Actually...our experiences have been quite the opposite.
Most of our closest friends have come out of The Lifestyle.
Do we love them? Yep.
Have/are we sexually intimate with them? Yep.
Are we romanticaly involved, exclusive and IN love with them? No.
Do we love them like family? Yep.
Are we polyamorous? No.
Does this just boil down semantics? Yes..probably. However I felt compelled to speak on behalf of those of us that actually do care about the people that we meet through the lifestyle. Cuz we DO give a shit and we're NOT the cold-hearted people we've been made out to be!
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Preferences? - - AHHH.NO! DON that is not what I am refering to..anyone who thinks eating Human or any other bodily waste IS EROTIC is very MUCH DISTURBED..that is for DrPhil to handle.I mean IF you have these THINGS that YOU need TO GET OFF..THEN when those THINGS become nonexsistent anymore to you..ie-LOOKS...HAIR...PENIS or whatever then do you just HANG IT UP because you ARENT PHYSICALLY attracted to ANYONE??I think there are ALOT of SO-called SWINGERS who are nothing more than self centered people.There is a movie that came out in the 70's called SWINGERS it dealt alot with the differnt personal VIEWS of everyone in the movie.As for me I am an equal oppurtunity swinger..TO exclude anyone..just becaue your dick dosent get hard at the site of them is purely ludicrous..because that is the whole basis of marriage to be married to that ONE person that DOES everthing for you..so why would you Wife-Swap..Swing or participate in ANY extra marital activities?At one time or another EVERYONE thinks about someone or something else besides their own mate..NOW that dosent mean that you love or desire your mate ANY LESS..We all have little nuances that our mates dont have..so just to say that I HAVE to be attracted to someone JUST to have sex ...I dont know sounds sort of suspect to me of something else involved ..THATS just MY opion...Bye KattNJohn
Poly-Swingers - Moving beyond FWB relationship - I would like some input from any couples who have chosen to move beyond a FWB relationship into a Polyamourous relationship. We most closely identify as Poly-Swingers which means we enjoy a close connection and emotional attachments with a couple we play with. We have been exclusive with a couple for a year now and it has been a wonderful positive experience for us all. Recently we have all realized that we have strong feelings for one another(girls are bi & men are str8). So we are in the midst of an evolution in our relationship. Please no attacks or judgments needed [em]Emo_78[/em]
New Swingers Club in Utah - Gauging interest in new club - We would be down a few times a year. We love Scarlet Ranch in Denver and have often thought about opening a similar club in Utah or Vegas
Now that you're one of them there fancy swingers... - - Whack Me Baby, Whack Me Baby, All Night Long!
Too Young? - Are we just too young... - I would love to swing with an older couple or younger couple. There are just a lack of swingers in my immediate area.
Why are people not answering? - - we to wonder why alot on here doesnt reply,I myself knwo we aren\'t a dog ugly couple.
and what really burns us up is,,the ones who send you a e-mail saying they are interested and when you reply back with contact info,,,you never hear back from then.
Santa -All i want for x-mas is a want-a-be zapper so i can do some serious ZAPPING!
MERRY X-MAS TO ALL YOU REAL SWINGERS :z :h :l
Reject Affair Match - Cheaters are not swingers - Hmm.
Yeah. What can I say. I've been through the "Swinging, inappropriate relationships, cheating, Divorce" route.
Now, that said, it ALWAYS takes 2 to tango and cheating is usually a symptom of a larger problem between 2 people. If you're having those problems in your relationship, you shouldn't be Swinging anyway! Either that or just end your relationship and stop hurting yourselves and those around you.
However, I think it's a pretty cheap shot to undercut what many of us consider to be the "values" of this lifestyle by advertising this site.
That's my opinion. But we make our stand pretty clear to those we play with! And it's pretty easy to spot the "unfaithfuls" once you know the tricks they use.
-Mr. K_T
Advertising your self - Do it like You would a house or car - [quote=DELICIOUSLYWET]If your job is at the stake you are not getting paid for that anyway. Most swingers are willing to comfort you and greet your hole (Well your wife's hole) with a kiss if your ward or stake finds out and you get excommunicated. Think of all the money you will have to buy naughty school girl outfits and a camera to take pictures once you no longer have to pay your 10%.
We saw Oozing Pustules as the lead off band for Jack Off Jill. They sucked![/quote]
this did not make a lick of sense to me.
Know any Mormon swingers in SoCal? - Single girl in SoCal wants to know! - I will DRIVE down there and fuck the TESTIMONY out of her. Just sayin'...[em]Emo_62[/em]
Ok, maybe I'll fly. Too hot to drive.
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