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Too Many Fake People Here - Nobody really wants to fuck! - [quote=TIFFND][quote=HAOPENGYOU]Before we moved to the coast 3 years ago, we were pretty active in the Utah lifestyle, and it definitely seemed more active and vibrant than it does now, at least insofar as we can judge from activity on this website. Back then we would regularly do things with the same three couples, all of whom we met on Swingular, and we notice now that two of their profiles are no longer here on this site. So you might be right, although we hope not, because we had a blast with this in Utah. When we did make the move out of Utah, we switched to another website, as Swingular is strongly Utah-centric. In fact, we've never had a single communication on Swingular from anywhere at all outside of Utah. Hey, if things get too sparse, come meet us in Portland, which apparently is the [url=https://www.prunderground.com/swingery-publishes-top-10-cities-with-the-most-swingers-in-the-us/00102465/]#1 swinger city in the country[/url]. We had no idea about that when we moved to Oregon, but we're not complaining. Go to Privata downtown if you ever have the chance. And if you ever tell anyone that you're not interested in a physical relationship with them, and they lose it (happened to us one time), then they're no one you wanted to hang with anyway. You'll do well to be rid of them. If any of you ever make it to the coast, you're invited to sip wine with us and watch whales from our deck. Best of luck to you. And Happy New Year.[/quote] Our point originally was that perhaps these people aren't really as fake, as they are private. I think the scene here is actually still doing quite well! It's just changing. In our case, we're just not as "out there" anymore as we used to be....And kind of feel like maybe that's true for a lot of folks. And maybe it's our age...we are 10 years older now...and not exactly in high demand. That said...we just may have to do a bit of whale watching in Portland, someday.....[/quote] When we started nearly 10 years ago, we made MANY more connections through this site. Now...not so much. We’ve changed. The scene has changed. I remember bi-guys being afraid to mention it for fear of outright hostility. We now prefer a connection, and to meet first to see if the connection is there, if they are in fact real, and to see if they “creep us out.” We do enjoy finding new friends, even if it is just for the night, all the better of more than that. And just finding people who are a bit more liberated to share some company even if there’s no play involved is also great. We have much more to offer than a good roll in the hay, as do most people, and the hay rolling is awesome, but enhanced by an intelectual and mutual respect.

Las Vegas - - We have only once gone to Vegas and spent a whole week and it was not in conjunction with any lifestyle take over or anything like that. We didn't go to any sex clubs. We did set up a temporary profile in a Vegas tourist hook-up site for swingers that we think is gone and met a couple that way we passed on. We recommend not staying in your room tethered to your lap top or smart phone trying to hook up. We did have some great sex with fun people while we were there. People, normally vanilla, are not all that vanilla while traveling and travelers in Vegas maybe a bit more so. The lobbies, coffee shops, pools and bars in the better classier hotels are fun if you are the sorts that can strike up a conversation, be playful and see where the conversation goes. Have fun!

truth dare or double dare - - I've loved this kind of thing - forever - and have designed my own games, too. Glad to see the excitement here for your game. Anybody up for putting together a convention to *play* such games? I always find that the swingers conventions are focussed on fucking - and I think it would be fun to play some games to lead up to it. Tease a little. Enjoy it. Spend a whole weekend doing this kind of game. If we schedule it, will anybody attend? When and where should we hold such an event? And, by the way, I'd love a copy of your game. Perhaps I can provide mine in exchange.

Labor Day Weekend - - [quote=WITH_A_WHISPER]Oh someone told me it was basically a swing club.... Not the case? [/quote] nope. not a swing club. its not any louder/pricier than the majority of clubs. only quieter spots are typically the smaller type bars. it used to be that a ton of swingers attended regularly but its never been "bascially a swingers club".

Divorce rates - How do we compare - Accurate stats on this would be tough to get because of who would answer honestly that they were swinging before getting divorced - but you could probably get close and our bet would be that its pretty close to 50/50?? Having said that, I guess we're going to skew the stats negatively towards the swingers since we plan on getting divorced as soon as all the kids are grown. We dont believe that marriage is needed to prove ones love and commitment for each other. We we're successful at this for the first 7 years, and 2 kids; (bastards - lol) of our relationship. But back in the day before GLBT(P) started fighting for equal rights, insurance companies wouldn't cover "straight" partners either, so we got married to get coverage, among some of the other rights that might pertain to our children. We have no problem with others getting married to extend their love for one another and we celebrate it. However, we absolutely detest governments using marriage as a tool to control the masses and their choice of romantic endeavors with each other - the rights that straight couples also loose from this should have many more people up in arms about it! This is one of the problems that has aided in the distortion of what love, marriage and true friendship really is which in turn causes more divorce... and people that CANT HANDLE SWINGING.

Children's Book 🤣 - Tim and Kate are Swingers - Here you go. One of my favorite books: Brenda's Beaver Needs A Barber https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QSHd2rnkRTE

thinking of starting a local group - - whats in a name? I'm thinking of a name and I don't want something that screams "Swingers are Here." I don't want a name that makes newbies think they "have" to do "something" when they come to our parties. Intimate Associates Lifestyle Associates Shared Intimacies Fantasy Fun Fantasy Flirt PlayTime Time to Play Time Foreplay Pleasure players playmate playpal secret intimacies fantasy eden discreet intamacies wild in secret simple pleasures sensual secrets intimate secrets all sound kinda to me.

How did you pick your screen name? - Screen names are funny..... - Ours is a holdover from the "Dubya" years. He frequently talked about certain people and groups as "evildoers" and we were talking about it one night in bed after a swing party and decided that he would probably think that we, as swingers, were also evildoers. Right then and there we decided to change our screen name. The REALLY funny thing is that a number of years ago there was a thread started by someone who claimed that if you put your Swingular screen name into Google it would, like, bring up your profile or pics from your profile or whatever. When we decided to try it, the very first pic it brought up was a pic of Dubya and his cabinet. [em]Emo_49[/em]

The thin line in the sand. - Where does "cheating" begin? - I wrote this somewhere else...but hopefully it fits here. "Fidelity. What is it? Most of you (some of you) might think I'm gonna come off as a hypocrite on this one. But please, bear with me. Fidelity is a key issue with me in relationships. It's one of the only lines that exist that is an instant kill switch. I've been in relationships where I've had to pull that switch and watch the bodies fall. Then again, I look at the insane stance I take in my "Sexual Play" life. Swingers. Kink that plays with submissives. Dangerous, flirtatious chat. Both Domme and I have regular communication with past lovers. Yet...faithful. How does that make sense you ask? Even when "Swinging" or involved in Kink "play" we always play together. Our communications are open. And in the end it all comes down to one very simple thing. Trust. So where does that leave Fidelity? As a personal choice between two consenting adults." That's my line...hope it helps! -Mr. K_T

9/11/21 NCL cruise to Alaska - Any swingers cruising along with us. - Are there any swingers cruising to Alaska in this cruise. Cruise ends the 18th