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Can bieng Mormon (LDS) and a Swinger co-exist? - - Every time I see this topic somewhere I wait until there are a number of replys and then put my $ 1.28.7 ( dollar three eighty seven ) into the pot. Religion is a means to control populations. Moral and ethics are dictated by religion and or organized religion first and then government... But lest we forget that organized religion was the government in the early days of the church.. Monogamy is the product of religion and government to make sure of heritage and property rights. BTW this is not simply a Christian practice but many religions do exactly the same thing..
Now, as for the Bible. The Bible is a collection of books and stories that were handed down by word of mouth and then laid down in writing in Sanskrit, and ancient Hebrew and then to a more modern form of Hebrew as well a Ancient Greek.. then a more modern version of Greek. These text were translated by the "Holy" Roman Church and transcribed for humanity and the masses control by monks under papal control. many of the Cannons of the Roman Catholic Church have been more or less adopted by the secular or temporal law, the law of the government. Some things need to be understood about the Bible. IT was written by men translated from dead languages or languages that had changed and it is entirely possible that it was manipulated for the purposes of the Church...
So where does that put us.... We believe what we want to, what we have been programmed to or we modify that programming to allow for us to do what we feel we have a right to do. What we believe will allow us to still live a good life even if it is against the mores and ethics of the church and or the temporal laws. It kind of like going 70 in a 65 MPH zone... We feel we have a right, besides we'll probably not get caught and maybe we just want to see if we will get caught.. Doing things against ones religion is like that to some extent... Maybe God is watching Mary down the street. Maybe I don't believe that my church is right. Maybe heaven and hell are a fabrication of religion to keep us in line... Maybe God was invented by man to explain why things are what they are and why things happen the way they do...
Do we have to reconcile our lives to religious "BELIEFS" or do we live our lives the best way we know. Harm no one if possible. Live life to the fullest, it's too short to play it too safe. Oh and before I forget, someone stated that they love their creator....Isn't that kind of like swinging.... He/She is not our mate. Oh and how about the old testament... All the wives of Solomon and David. How about Isaac... His wife gave him her hand maden and besides if you look at the text... he already had several concubines as did many other biblical figures.... I think maybe we could call them all swingers.....So beat this subject to the ground and in the end it's all up to what you WANT to BELIEVE.
how do i get my girlfriend into lifestyle? - - I assume you two watch XXX porn. Does any porn with multi partners, gal/gal seem to make her more juicy or hot after? this might be a clue. Also dont forget to tell her that this is not some line you just one day have to decide to jump over and it means you have sex with others. TO us it just meant stopping to say hey! What is wrong with nudity? What is wrong seeing others having sex or being seen? This is all normal and a big part of our lives. Why is it so taboo?
Perhaps all she would consider is nudity. Near the start of our adventure we choose to go to desires resort a "clothing optional" beach place South of Cancun. IT does have some 30% on average swingers. But a swinger means many different levels. There you have no pressure and lots of fun even if you choose to wear clothes but it is easy in an atmosphere like that 2k miles from home to let at least some of the clothes come off and see how that feels.. Then seeing all the sexy folks going to dinner dressed up from body paint to stuff you think of as night wear is really a turn on. When she enjoys the mind blowing sex back in the privacy of your room she will either get the interest or not. But first I would think you need to just man up and be able to talk about stuff or this gal is not for you!
Sturgis 2014 - The wife and I are wanting to know where the swingers play @ Sturgis - Last year, I know that there were several lifestyle groups at Glencoe. There was a group from another state that I ran into but I don
sexy cities - favorite travel destinations - San Diego! Many LS venues, great nightlife, live music almost nightly at the Casbah and the San Diego Music Box, always a festival close by and Tijuana's gentlemen's clubs are world class. Hong Kong went from being a shady brothel decades ago to a hot nightclub / strip joint hybrid that welcomes everyone and popular with young Americans of both genders, we seen many young couples enjoying themselves with a pretty girl. Safe, clean, fair, cheapppp and fun as heck. Half of the girls who work there are Americans. You can just watch, get something to eat/drink or just be a part of the action. Tijuana also has world class restaurants such as Caesar's, all reasonably priced. We also have San Onofre naturist beach. There is Thad's, a swingers club still operating, plagued by single males but they are easily outnumbered and set asideon Saturday nights by the ton of couples who come in. Also a hot couples only play area always busy on Saturday nights. Private rooms too. Some other LS venues advertise on KAS. Never boring, always sexy down here! No need to go to Vegas or Palm Springs. Oh, we have awesome casinos too like Barona and Viejas.
Playing with \"swingers\" vs \"nonswingers\" - - Something to consider is that non-swingers often view swingers as people who will sleep with anyone as long as they are breathing, hence much of the eagerness expressed on the non-swingers part to be involved. Single males who are into swinging at least understand that they have been chosen and there is such as thing as discretion involved in such encounters.
This isn\'t always the case, but it is something we have experienced with some of our friends who aren\'t swingers that have open enough minds to handle the fact that we are, but don\'t get that we don\'t have sex with any and every available person. If you do decide to go ahead with it, I would suggest that you have a real talk with this guy to make sure he really understands where you\'re coming from and where things are headed (ie. no kissing or anything else and then telling, unless you don\'t mind).
My .02
-SG
New Swingers Club in Utah - Gauging interest in new club - We would totally love to see this happen. We would come a few times a month for sure.
Damn Utah couples! :) - - ALL4MYPLEASURE, Mormons didn't get you into the lifestyle, swingers did LOL! BTW, nice to see other Greeks in the lifestyle. After all, we Greeks are pioneers of debauchery.
Granted, the scene is ok here. It lacks on-premise clubs and many of the other lifestyle related dances and such, but I won't complain too much. We prefer the scene in a state that is more liberal where you don't have self-righteous religious zealots trying to force feed the populous their dogma. Times are changing and the population of non-lds is growing and it's voice will be heard sooner or later.
-D-
Age - New to the swingers community - is age a factor in how a couple is viewed? - Personality can conquer almost anything!
With that being said we have been discriminated against due to our age.. Its not fun but everyone has their personal preferences we just have to accept it.. Personally we are more attracted to couples older than us.. But we have had many fun times with couples younger than us. I think it comes down to common interests and attitude. People would be surprised with how many different types of crowds you can fit in with.
SO FUCK EM ALL..hehe (literally)
Other than the SLC spice party? - Who's not going? - We're not going
I agree With D&T please Express your opinions it gives me something to read LOL
Anyhow
My Opinions,,
Having never been to a spice party I cant Judge an actual spice party. I went to a party with the same crowd and felt like I was at a middle school dance where I just wanted to be a wallflower and pretend I wasnt there. Very Clicky, I am sure If I became a regular there and got to know some of the people I am sure that would change. But I dont want to. I will point out that I felt the same way at my first party from another group..
However in the crowd we prefer to hang around Its the same way (we're like Arent those the spice party people Ewwww !) Just kidding ! we dont really. However we dont go out of our way to go over and chat with these people either. We have met Robert and Jen, (got our VIP LOL) and M & M and well all the other couples everyone is picking on here and they all seem nice enough Are we a match as swingers and potential sex partners Nope leave it at that the reasons are obvious. I am way too much man for them to handle LOL...
Happy new year to all our friends tip a few back for us We're homebound NYE this year Blew the wad on christmas.
Swingers Dares - Text for cards in the game - We know one girl who would go for the "triple" dare always. Right *S*?
We like your suggestions 333 ... specially the "guinea pigs" tempting one... wink wink.
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