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What would you do? - what does a person do when their spouse no longer wishes to paticipate - Well. How amazing that the "couple in question" just happens to be in my home town. And my wife and I are at a serious impasse about the same subject, but in the "traditional direction" i.e. I still want it. She still doesn't. I'm... very surprised that a bunch of Swingers are so unanimous that "No trumps yes": that swinging is just something you do - but are ashamed of enough that any "no" in the group instantly defines the partner's life as well. Why isn't "yes" just as valid? In our case, we've been married for over 25 years. We've had a very-good run. Our children are grown and gone. We're financially comfortable. And we're still physically capable - as we watch our parents be physically unable to walk, hear, see, pee, or do much of anything to enjoy *anything* - the point there being that I hear the clock ticking and to me, this is THE time of life to reap one's reward for the life one has lead - before it's too late to do anything but try to keep breathing. And for me, being honest, the ONE thing that is my reward - is erotic fun. Let me be clear that what I crave is *erotic fun* - not just madly try to find someone new to fuck and never see again - but partners who want to wallow in the erotic experience of "Truth or Dare" and Lifestyle conventions and teasing and games. That's IT for me. That's why "doing it" is called "doing IT". And I've been a great husband/father/responsible citizen for over 50 years. And I feel that there isn't anything else in my life that really gives me a "reason for living". And my wife, bless her, just has never had any passion. She enjoys it when I have sex with her. When I give her a nice massage followed by 3 or 4 orgasms. But she's happy with twice a month or less. And she had no need at all for my "erotic experiences". So here we are. And over the last 10 years we've tried pretty-much every possibility: traditional fidelity, me cheating, us swinging, me swinging alone with her permission... and it always ultimately winds up that the only way she is not *miserable* is if I'm following "traditional fidelity". And the only way I'm not miserable - is if I have the freedom to pursue erotic associations. Now. If my passion were bowling, there wouldn't be a problem. If her passion were gardening or shoe shopping, there wouldn't be a problem. Everybody would just tell us to do our thing without the other - and enjoy what we *do* enjoy together. But somehow sex is THE one that we have to do *together* or not at all. So we're very very seriously trying to figure out if we'd both be happier by tearing up a marriage and going our separate ways. We can all *say* that whoever does NOT want to swing - rules the day, but imagine whatever your very-favorite thing is to do. Then imagine your spouse telling you: "I don't like to do that, so WE won't ever do that and You won't do it without me - and you won't do it alone, either - ever again". Now what?

What sets you apart from other swingers - Lets see whos looking for what. - What sets you apart from the crowd? Who does what to put some couple above all the rest? Single guys/girls, your in this too! What do you have to offer better than others? What do you think gives you the edge on other couples, singles, hard, soft? Is it bodies, technique, skill, age, oral, toys, knowledge, popularity? If your a guy that says"I gotta big dick" thats lame...WTF do you do with your "Big dick" besides slap it around on a cam. Ladies, do you pretend on cam?, or do you give good head?..trust us guys, we have all had good and bad head! or do ya got a pussy that makes any man scream? Whats your talent? Whats your weakness? Wheres the spot that someone can hit, and you can no longer walk?..lol What do you do that makes legs quiver? Time for an interesting thread here...something thats useful and ya may get a hot date out of it!!;) ~D&T~

Las Vegas Swingers club - - You can just show up at Whispers.

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How's everyone spending the long weekend? - Who's up for some spontaneous get togethering? - We're celebrating our 15th wedding anniversary all weekend, we started Wednesday night with our private dinner and a Vegas show, Of course Thursday is T-day so family time, Friday is party time with friends, a dinner with everyone and a party at the swingers club later that night. Sat and Sun is as much sex as we can fit in. If anyone is in Vegas they can join us, we wish we lived in Utah though, so many people there

Swingers dying out? - Is the utah swinger community dying or becoming to needy? - We are new to Utah so we are really hoping it's not dying out or that people are only looking for Barbie and Ken....I'd rather not move again ;) Mrs crazyfun Xoxox

Lake Powell Trip June 11-14 (Last Topic got deleted somehow) - - OK,, not sure where the Announcement went but lets do this again.... Every year, we put on a Lake Powell trip. In previous years, it has been a mixed crowd,, swingers and vanillas. This year we are going to change it up and add a trip in June that is Lifestylers only. Dates for this are June 11-14. We are still doing the August trip as well, but it will be a bit tamer than the June trip. Houseboats will be availible for those that want to go. The cost last year for the houseboats worked out to be around $800 for the 4 days per couple. This included fuel. With decreased fuel prices this year, it should be a bit less. If we get enough people to warrant it, and if I can talk the pig supplier to provide pigs twice in one year (Yes, Buttabing, this is directed towards you) we will do a luau pig on Saturday night. Last year, some people tent camped as well so staying on a houseboat is not a requirement. As a courtesy though to those that are renting the houseboats, if you do use the amenities of the houseboat such as bathrooms, showers, cooking and kitchen stuff, etc... you donate to whoever rented the boat. Having a boat is not a requirement. Those that do have them don't seem to have a problem "adopting" those that don't. A bunch of peeps from this site went last year and from what we hear, everyone had a good time. I will need commitments from those that want to go no later than March 29th so I can ensure that I tie up enough houseboats for those that want them.

Tampa Meet & Greet - M&M / Shylatin Parties Tampa Meet & Greet - ALT PATHWAY Friday AUGUST 7TH 9:00 PM Until Whenever Ladies Drink 2 for 1 YOU HAVE BEEN WAITING AND YOU HAVE ASKED SO M & M PARTIES ALONG WITH SHYLATIN HAVE LISTENED. WE HAVE CUM TO TAMPA!! YES YOU HEARD IT RIGHT WE ARE HERE WE ARE HAVING OUR FIRST TAMPA MEET N GREET!! IF YOU HAVE EVER BEEN TO ONE OF OUR PARTIES YOU KNOW WE MAKE EVERYTHING ABOUT THE PEOPLE!! WE ARE REAL SWINGERS THROWING SWINGER PARTIES!! WE INTEND TO MAKE EVERYONE COMFORTABLE AND HAPPY!! ALT PATHWAYS IS A GREAT RESTAURANT AND STILL HAS THAT LOUNGE/CLUB ATMOSPHERE!! FROM A NICE COZY SECTION AROUND THE BAR TO SIT AND ENJOY CONVERSATION. TO A STEP DOWN AREA WHERE THE MUSIC WILL BE JAMMIN THE LATEST MUSIC. DJ MISA AND MR SHYLATIN WILL KEEP THE DANCE FLOOR PACKED. DONATIONS FOR THE EVENT ARE AS FOLLOWS: COUPLES: $15.OO SINGLE MALES: $25.00 SINGLE FEMALES: FREE A $5.00 COUPON FOR FOOD WILL ALSO BE GIVEN AT THE DOOR!! SO CUM MAKE A NIGHT OF IT ARRIVE A LITTLE EARLY EAT DINNER THEN SIT BACK GET TO KNOW SOME NEW ONES CATCH UP WITH SOME OLD FRIENDS AND THEN GO PARTY ON THE DANCE FLOOR. LOCATED 1 block East of 275 off of Bush Blvd. The address is 810 E. Skagway Ave - Tampa, Florida - 33604 . The club phone # is 813-932-7400.

Help us out.. Take this Survey - For Utah Swingers - Not done. God I hate multiple choice tests. Is there a time limit? [em]Emo_8[/em] (pssst! what did you all get for question number seven?)

Swingers Kickball Society - - Our next Meeting will be Thursday July 8th...