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Swinging and LDS... - Are the two compatible? I know this is a huge can of worms... - [quote=BMSHELL]Always exciting to see non-mormons (or "former" mormons in here) attempting to teach everyone else about mormon doctrine... Because as everyone knows, if you want to learn more about a particular group of people, you should ask a different group of people who HATE that group... you're bound to get the truth that way, right?
But seriously.. you guys are adorable. =)
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Hating is usually a problem. Faith in the veracity of any religion's origin story, or the effectiveness of it's doctrine is only part of the story for people that choose to be in the flock, and probably less important to anyone participating as such, then the interpersonal experiences they have with the friends they make, and of course with their family.
You can make anything sound ugly. Certainly people that hate swinging and swingers will not portray swinging as anything good. In the end the real question is perhaps as simple as whether or not you are happy and compatible with someone for who they are, in all their complexities, rather than are you compatible with their religion.
We have made it clear we don't believe in Mormonism to our friends and family but we have also made it clear we still love all of our friends and family that believe and participate in the LDS Church at whatever level they choose, and the same sentiment goes toward all the rest of our family and friends that belong to whatever religion they embrace or lack thereof. We will always want to enjoy their company, so long as they afford us and hopefully everyone else the same respect and freedom to be true to our own understanding and desires, without fear of malice.
US based Hedo-Like Resort - Could there be one in the US? - So, why has no one built such a resort in someplace like Vegas, Florida,
They built in Florida... more that 20 years ago.
--> http://www.paradiselakes.com/
Paradise Lakes is 90% swingers and well know in our area as such. The only difference between this place and Hedo is sand..... and we hate sand.
Help us out.. Take this Survey - For Utah Swingers - Done, would be interested in the results.
asking your swinger friend if you can join them. - - [quote=EVILDOERS]"I am not in the lifestyle and don't think I ever really fully would be"
"K USSIR your not a swinger but you wanna have sex with you friends wife with your friend there? HMMMMMMM I smell a swinger in the making"
Naw, I smell a single guy who just wants to get laid. If you aren't really interested in swinging just leave it alone and get your jollies elsewhere. There are plenty of ways for you to get your rocks off in bars and clubs and on Craigslist. It's your VERY common SM attitude that makes it tough for the very few single guys who get it and really want to be part of the lifestyle. No wonder so many people constantly say that singles aren't really swingers. But don't worry. You aren't alone. We've met TONS of single dudes over the years who've admitted that they would NEVER allow their wife (if they ever got married) to fuck another man. Swinging is an attitude and a mindset. A guy who would let you fuck his wife is risking a lot and sharing with you the most important thing in his life. If you can't grasp that concept you should just stay home and jerk it to online porn.[/quote]
Yeah, that was well put
And thanks deliciouslywet for your response too.
I guess I'll leave it alone and if I'm hanging out with them and it happens great if not that's fine too.
Travel and first time - - I completely understand how she feels. And just for what it's worth, you two are at an age where a lot of couples head for divorce court anyway. There's no sense in driving in that direction if you don't have to. So, in my opinion, if you communicate really well, and are just looking for a little bedroom spice once in a while, going where you're unlikely to build a relationship isn't a bad idea. There are bunches of swinger sites all over the country. I'd suggest looking up a few swingers clubs in the area you want to visit and ask them what the predominant swing sites are in their area.
Once you get comfortable with the lifestyle, and feel like the risk is less, doing it closer to home is fun, and more convenient.
Mr. Sexperimentors
How has swinging made your marriage better? - - Curious... how many of the previous posters (or anyone on here for that matter) are on their FIRST marriage and have been "successful" swingers for 4-5 years+ ?
Tally those numbers and see if it makes marriages better. Would also be curious about second, third, fourth marriages (but those are harder because a lot have met in the lifestyle and/or came from a marriage that ended in infidelity). Still, have wondered.
P.S. EVILDOERS Mrs cntrl has been told that a couple of times as well.
can we swing and still not be in sin ? - - You said you would explain how to swing without sinning. Most expressed apathy for the offer. Why, because "sinning" is something most swingers don't care about with regard to the activities in the lifestyle. Most either don't care or don't apply the word to their lives. I, as an atheist, do not give the word value. Sinning is a religous mans burden. So when you say you can "show me how to swing without sin", I reply, "I already am." ;)
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swinging: It's not for everyone - - [quote=EVILDOERS]Ain't THAT the truth? Swinging is NOT for everyone. Many people it seems are only one or two drinks away from major drama or worse! That's why it's so funny to see the threads from the "vanilla hunters". They think it's way more fun to go out and try to seduce vanillas (cause, hey, everybody really wants to be a swinger deep down, right?) than fuck other swingers, often using copious amounts of alcohol to accomplish their task and effectively taking at least some of their prey's free will away. Hey we're all consenting (with enough alcohol on board) adults. All's fair in love and swinging. Right? LOL[/quote]
Yeah, that's what makes me laugh about most 'pickup artists' seems like a lot of them do most of their work on a half-soused target.
Swingers gone bad?? - - Just a thought here...
Compare this to another post about women being drugged at parties...
In both situations you are giving another human being a substance to reduce or remove any ability to say no to unwanted sexual advances.
Rape is rape no matter if it is an adult/adult rape or adult/child rape. And if someone is too drunk/high/drugged to consent and the person continues, it's rape.
To those thinking it's kind of cool, wrong. For an adult who is by their age, in a position of power to abuse that power and sexually assault another is not cool.
It's illegal, it's immoral and it's flat out disgusting.
How has swinging made your marriage better? - - [quote=EVILDOERS]First marriage. Successful swingers (not sure exactly what you mean by successful-lol) for over 25 years! :-)[/quote]
OK, that's 2 of us... 23 years here..
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