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Another perplexing experience - - In reply to wetfem there is nothing wrong with you as a cpl. We have had simular situations everything from "oh no your a yankee" to "your too old" of course they never said this to our face we just could tell from the way those nights went the bottom line is ,you cannot possibly be compatible with everyone you meet and chatting, talking on phone, and e-mails/messages gives you just a slight insight into who you are planning on meeting thats why for us for the most part at least folks local to us we do not spend alot of time chatting etc... we setup a face to face meeting very quickly and see where it leads most 1st meetings are strictly social and then we tell whomever we are meeting with lets make it" more private "next time that normally will lead to a positive response or a polite "we don't feel we are compatible". We have learned to laugh about the ones who choose not to bring it to a sexual level and consider it thier loss not ours . Being in the mid aged range we know that we are more uncompatible with the majority of the swingers who frequent sights like this my wife no where looks 47 People continue to guessed her age in her mid 20's (she drives those fair ages guessers crazy she has won every time lol) and when cpls/singles meet us face to face and we tell them our kids are 28 and 26 you can see the look on thier faces that is very obvious "They did not read our profile very well". With all that said, we approach all face to face meetings with no "sexpectations" if it happens great if it doesn't we say nice to meet you and then say "NEXT" Norm&Sharon

How much risk is too much? - - [quote=ILLUSTRATOR]You're right. I'm just telling it the way I see it from what I know. I just wanted to voice the other side of this because I know women who feel this way and, although I understand how you feel, I see their side of it, too. And the men on here who think that women truly want to be raped need to understand that they may think it's what they want, but what they really want is the unrealistic fantasy that's played out so often in the Romance Novels that are flying off the shelves. There's a reason for their high sales. But it's merely a Fantasy. These men might come across videos like that of Laci Green's and think that means all women want to be raped. They should know that, in reality, women don't want it played out. That's what the OP should know and consider. [/quote] And a certain percentage of men may have just read that and only saw (or acknowledged), "...all women want to be raped." When we already have a very pervasive bias in our culture towards patriarchy and women being subservient to men, especially sexually, then discussions like this, IMHO, cause more harm than good. It doesn't take much looking on the internet to find sites and discussion boards where violence against women is not only overtly depicted through text and image but also actively discussed and even encouraged. Fantasize all you want but openly discussing how to fulfill rape fantasies in a swingers forum can only cause harm I think.

Do you 'advertise' your lifestyle desires in public? - - Try dropping the word lifestyle into a sentance,or ask if you have meet before and use a club name everyone knows is a swingers club. In Dallas the key word would be San sousi.

Swingers cars??? - What ya driving?? - And to my Bugatti buddies. Type 57s. If your going to dream, dream big.

Swingers gone bad?? - -

weight approperate - - Usually, I am not very active in the forums, but I feel that I need to respond to this particular thread. We think that the majority of the people in the lifestyle today do not understand the background of the term "swingers". It is simply "Hedonism". Enjoying every physical aspect that one can. If an individual or couple decides to limit themselves to HWP, then that is their collective choice. We should not look down upon them no matter what. These people have set their collective limits and must live with them. That is the whole principle of our lifestyle. INDIVIDAUL/COLLECTIVE CHOICE. As the husband of a very BBW, I believe that there are folks out there for everyone. If there are people that restrict themselves too much, then they are bound for endless searches and will miss out on meeting alot of great friends and lovers. I urge everyone to look beyond the physical appearance of their potential "playmates" and see the true beauty that lies within every individual within "OUR LIFESTYLE". LOBO

Swingers Kickball Society - - Our first kickball game will be this coming Thursday on June 3rd send a message if you want to join the group. Looking for couples.

Here's something Ive been curious about - - In a nut shell, perhaps, we should conclude that, Cheaters and the truly happily monogamous are the only ones that are not swingers to some degree if you define swinger as someone that prefers a sexual existence that is not 100% monogamous and lives that way honestly. Then we can suggest that swinging has a place for most people. Preference is not the end all in what actually happens. Natural selection means that some will be more successful at mating regardless of their preference. Some singles and some couples have no problem getting laid. They will be able to successfully have sex on their own terms. Singles and couples with a predisposition for pair bonding or tournament mating will find their way into the swing scene and either be couples or singles not out of preference but out of the circumstances surrounding their lives. Sex is so important and so strong an instinctual drive people will take it as they can get it and have sex in circumstances that do not exactly match their instinctual preference if their instinctual preference is not readily available. In nature pretty much all mammals, birds and many other species fall into two mating categories pair bonding or tournament species. Interestingly enough, many scientist who study humans from the point of view of our biology and our social interactions currently feel we fall somewhere in between with a lean toward pair bonding for many. Women may tend to be pair bonders in higher numbers than men. Humans, generally, be they pair bonders or tournament mating sorts are not 100% monogamous by nature. A significant percentage of humans given the possibility of some level of non-monogamy will still choose monogamy but most would enjoy the some non-monogamous activity even if it will never actually happen due to social conditioning. Pair bonding species are usually not 100% monogamous but do for lack of a better term desire and if they are successful have a significant other which shares the burdens and I would say the joys of raising a family together. The desire and the instinctive drive to have a partner is stronger than the desire to avoid the burdens and work associated with maintaining a

Swingers cars??? - What ya driving?? - 05- Chrysler 300

Tooele swingers party - - I’m in too