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Adulter or Swinger? - - I'll probably catch a lot of flack for what I'm about to say but here goes. SWINGING is or was started by servicemen in the late 50 and early 60's . Two MARRIED couples would SWAP wives for the night. Generally, the odd couples would repair to different rooms and play. The only thing sharred about it was that they had swapped... Then it progressed to parties and shoe parties or key parties and couples would go with the person whos shoe or keys they would get from the pile. Over the years single women were welcomed into the swinger ranks since swinging/swapping had evolved to simply recreational sex.... They were welcomed because women were looking for bi sexual experiences and men like the idea of 2 on one and watching women together. Enter the single men.... When I was younger we called young single men and women getting together dating... Now we have singles "dating" swingers????
Enter the married guy who isnot happy with what he has at home and thinks swinging is a legal/moral way to get strange.... Bottom line one needs to be married or in a committed relationship to cheat. Cheating is where one of the couple goes out and plays with someone other than their partner....
So for a married woman, not in a "relationship" to have sex with anyone, another single, randomly is not cheating but in a very broad sense, is in fact swinging. I would also say that one could also say that that person is dating.... regardless of the sexual connotations.
One thing to note here is that swinging has evolved to something more than recreational sex. It now has the connotation of friends or friendship involved. In fact, there are actually people who wish to have closed sexual relations with one or more couples. Exclusive in nature where each couple involved only has sex with their partner and with ONLY people who have agreed that they willl do the same...
So cheating is the only cut and dried issue... Non consensual sex with other than ones own partner of a committed relationship. The rest is either dating or swinging/swapping...
I'm sure we all knew this but it needs to be reiterated from time to time...
Swingers cruise BVI or Bahamas - Couples interested in a cruise? - Hi there.
We are planning to make a cruise around the BVI's or Bahamas next year March/April. If we find enough couples we can charter a 10 passenger catamaran and have lots of fun together. We plan a trip for 3 weeks and you can join us for 1,2 or 3 weeks. We think that we can cover the chartercosts with US$2400.--/US$2700.-- per couple/per week. Any couple interested? Also couples having experience with swinger cruises in the Caribbean are asked to tell us there stories. We already have sail-swing-charter experience in the Med!
Bea and Alex, [email protected]
Any Swingers out there? Golf swingers that is... - - So I jump ship in Hong Kong and I make my way over to Tibet, and I get on as a looper at a course over in the Himalayas... well, its a great story and, well, I got that goin for me.
Somebody plan a round, I'm in!
New Forum Rules - No Censorship, No Moderation, Just a Few Rules -
Rob,
Very good move. Most popular public forums on the web have moderators that keep it above the belt. I am a "levels of force" kinda person. I usually keep it in the "smack talk" region until someone pulls out the big guns and says something that totally insults me, my service to the country, my way of life etc. Then I think it's fair to defend myself. I was never one to tolerate bullies
Forum moderation is a good think as long as you are not dinged on everything you say. If done in moderation itself, I think it's key in a happy community. After all, not all of us will agree all of the time. Any good community has a police system in place.
Some of us do not hold themselves to a moral believe system (dogma). What it "proper etiquette" to some, may not be to others. We are a culturally & sexually diverse, multi-faceted, large gamut of unique individuals. Each of us even differ from our spouses/significant others (if that applies). Can you you say you never argue with your spouse? Can you say you have never said anything brash to anyone? Were you apologetic to those you did not like? I think most reasonable individuals would say yes to most of those and no to the last one. What is more likely, is that they chose to avoid contact with that person.
Everyone here has a choice to involve themselves in the conversations that happen here. For instance, if you were to post in a "GAY MARRIAGE" thread and post your opinion as to why an adult of clear mind and total consent, should not be allowed to enter into legal marriage with another adult of any sex, they so chose because of your own personal moral system. You are then adamant about holding to you view no matter how many time you are told that there is a seperation of church and state and that the "sanctity of marriage, between a man and a woman" is that of religious code and does not apply to the legal system, as it is unconstitutional. Yet you still wish to force your law on the rest of society because your upbringing told you that homosexuality is wrong and that marriage is not meant for gays. If this applies to you, then you are not reasonable and the only way I wish to deal with unreasonable people is to tell them to fuck off. I am saying you don't have the right to avoid homosexual marriage for youself? NO! I am saying you don't have the right to choose for others.
I guess what I am saying is that many of you don't want to hear anyone say anything that differs from your own little world, yet you are swingers. Many of you think one -way and don't want to hear something that turns your belief system on it's head. If you can not respect or tolerate diversity I have no respect for you. I will not respect your beliefs, rights or opinions if you will not afford everyone else the same. YOU REAP WHAT YOU SEW.
I vow, from hence forth, to do my best to be civil to everyone here. I expect the same from all of you. I can play nice with you, if you play nice with me. Remember, if you disrespect me, I will definetly return the courtesy :-) Thanks Rob. Thank you for proving that forum moderation can be a good thing.
-Don-
"Ich habe einen kleinen Vogel in meinem Kopf."
Note: Best if viewed with Microsoft Internet Explorer version 7Any Swingers out there? Golf swingers that is... - - I'm up for a round, will have to set something up! Can't say I'd be Palmer's nemesis, but I sways enjoy a good round, and typically buy golf balls in bulk. ;)
camping - - one thing i wish we had in florida swingers camp grounds because we love camping.
How do we find a female fire a threesome? - - People on a swingers site complaining about other people not being single. I guess I missed the point of this site...
We have heard about it many times........... - Couples that are swingers - I had a horrible experience a while back too. It was not a couple from this site. As a matter of fact I had met them out at a night club. We exchanged numbers and went out a couple more times.
One night when that wife excused herself to use the ladies room he asked if I wanted to
Christain Swingers? - - It depends on whether you take the scriptures literally, or, as in some faiths, a more objective and liberal view. Considering how it has been translated... as well as the group of men who decided which "books" would become the bible many centuries ago... there will always be disagreement. Try www.libchrist.com for info about this subject.
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Secret Swingers Club Ogden, UT - Clubs - Are single men welcome? I really just want to potentially date. Being in this lifestyle in northern utah as a single male is rough. I wouldn't even be looking to hook up just talk and see what is out there. I know there are a lot of strong feelings about single men so I didn't want to go if it is not allowed.
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