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does anyone else go through periods of doubt? - as to whether this lifestyle is what they want? - You sound perfectly normal to me. Some people need a real connection with a person to make a connection, whether it be physical or otherwise. Some swingers (especially the men) can just do it with anybody, it's just something new, that's good enough. Personally, I like to have a strong physical attraction to someone before I consider sex with them. Another thing you mention, I believe is also similar to me, I'm a giver, not a receiver. I love to perform oral, men or women,(and I'm told I'm really good at it :)) but I'm not that good at receiving it (from either sex) until that person has really learned me(how I like to be touched or licked), and it may take a few times together, and sometimes either I or they don't have the patience, lol But performing it on others, especially when they're really enjoying it is a huge turn-on for me. So anyway the bottom line is...who's to say what's normal or not, don't worry about it. The lifestyle is mostly about being free to enjoy yourself and others. So, you like what you like, enjoy yourself, if others don't like it, let them move on.

Swingers now officially a high risk group for STDs and STIs - Do your own research - [quote=BADBOY8P]I think everyone has got your point !!!! And yes it is smart to be tested and have safe sex but just because you have safe sex there is still a risk ...... I mean really there is a million ways to die so choose one . I say if you have been monogamous for months and you tested clean then its a great time for you to get out of the lifestyle . But why scare the hell out of everyone ??? In life with no risk then there is no reward . Just my thought ( To each there own ) Badboy[/quote] True enough. We have had quite a bit of success and reward as swingers. Frankly, it is not the most important or the most rewarding experience we have had in life thus far and that is not at all saying it has not been great. We do not mean to scare the hell out of anybody. Risk verses reward is a fact. We do not think that this forum thread or the ones that came before it or that will follow will change the the direction people choose to go with their life. If we feel the risk is worth it most of us will still take it. If anything, we do think that perhaps there is a tendency for people to use anecdotal experiences and feel good statements as a way to reassure themselves and others, about the their behaviors rather than looking at the data and more fully trying to comprehend the potentialities of their behaviors. Happens with religion and politics and most every other aspect of life that involves a support group. Dogma wins the day until enough cognitive dissonance, as Evil puts it, reaches a level of critical mass and the need to ask questions is greater than the fear of the risk of asking questions. This can be as true within a support group made up of "open minded" swingers as most any other group. Nothing wrong with asking questions and reevaluating. As i said do your own research and come to your own conclusions. Whatever any of us decides is right for us most probably is.

OUCH - Anyone caught swinging bu family or friends? - Have to say it happens quite frequently with us...comes from knowing so many folks, I guess. I tend to run into friends of my kids..at meet and greet locations..as well as a relative or two of my own...a nephew that frequents 48...A couple of coworkers are on this site... Tif has run into former bosses..co workers...a few have turned out to be swingers! Most recently, one of her son's girlfriends at a swingers birthday party...oops... One we know quite well here, is actually the daughter of a guy I've known since I was a kid...yep..THAT long ago. So far, no ill consquences have come from any of these encounters...but I do suspect my kids my not be quite as naive to all of their dads doings as I'd like to believe..lol

Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - Just my 2 cents...I've found it's actually easier to take the bigger...member, in the back door. That's the only way it will all fit (in me). :~)

Age differences - How do you handle it - We2, I can understand what you are saying. My first wife was 16 years older then I and my current wife is 6 years younger. First wife helped me to mature early and quickly and current wife keeps me young and on my toes. Seems like most everyone feels similar to us. Maybe the people having the conversation we were involved in should have said the younger swingers that were at the party they were referring to were not as mature instead of saying they are more into flirting and dirty dancing rather then playing.

"Swinger Robots"?? - WtF?, Now, on top of everything else, we have to worry about Robot Swingers? - Ah, give the guy a break. He might just have thought it was funny like some lady's boob flopping out of her dress in an incredibly public situation, and isn't NECESSARILY transphobic. I'd suggest that there ought to be a term for folks who think someone inadvertantly embarrassing themselves is funny, except that I fear it'd probably end up being something like "normal". As Valentine Michael Smith said, "Perhaps I don’t grok all its fullness yet. But find me something that really makes you laugh, sweetheart … a joke, or anything else – but something that gave you a real belly laugh, not a smile. Then we’ll see if there isn’t a wrongness in it somewhere and whether you would laugh if the wrongness wasn’t there.” “I had thought – I had been told – that a ‘funny’ thing is a thing of a goodness. It isn’t. Not ever is it funny to the person it happens to." ~Terry '.

See life issues please help - Wife needs help understansing - I wanted to comment on a specific thing the OP said; many swingers are not swingers because they were "bored". Imagine a couple that vacations every year to the south of France and have a wonderful time, but one year decide to try Puerto Rico. Did they do something new because they were bored with their usual spot? No, they were looking for an adventure, to meet new people, to experience something different. Most swingers, the ones that are in a good place, are happy in their lives and also want to explore and expand their horizons. If you are afraid your spouse is "bored" with you then everything in the swinger lifestyle is going to appear more exciting and this is a recipe for jealousy and resentment. Remember that NRE is electrifying and exciting but ORE is just as valuable, if not more; it gives us real joy and comfort and that is sexy too.

Cosplay ? - - [quote=HOTFIRELOVERS]Dressing up goes with the territory of swingers. Guess it's time for a cosplay party!!!! [/quote] That's a good idea. Let's plan something in conjunction with Comic Con. We'll all dress up in slutty cosplay outfits, wander around the Salt Palace flirting and stuff and then go to a hotel suite and have nasty fantasy/sci-fi sex. [em]Emo_12[/em]

What is up with Utah?! - Swingers in Utah and nowhere else? - The owner lives here and once lived in FL. The presence from both places is strong. It also helps to have ton of sexually repressed (religiously oppressed) people here. -D-

Swingers Next Door! - ABC news story on Swinging! - To me, it's the feeling couples go through in the first 6 months of being new in the LS!

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