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Are swingers moral? - Who determines what morals are? - Kitty, they go best with a light honey BBQ sauce :)
Seriously, we live with only one ethical standard: Do not harm others unnecessarily. Simple and to the point.
As to the difference between morals and ethics; I have always believed that morals are those things society pushes on you, be it your church, the law, family, ect, while ethics are those things you take for yourself and make a part of your own beliefs and actions.
Do I view myself as moral? Not really. I have consciously chosen to ignore those things which society has attempted to push on me in favor of what I believe to be right and wrong. I obey laws I don't agree with not because I believe those laws to be moral, or myself to be moral, but because I do not wish the repercussions of breaking those laws. That and I live in serious red-neck country and our prostitutes are just downright scary .
Online donations - A new way for lifestyle clubs to collect donations - Call your charity "The care of swingers" Fund. You don't have to justify the charity, only show a user-base that is interested in donating. If you are the one "taking care", all proceeds can go to you, since you are the one providing/ensuring their care. The money can be used in any manner that coincides with "the care of swingers" to include your compensation for working toward the care of swingers. The beauty of it is, you can even file for tax exempt status, save the income portion that goes to you and your staff for their work. If a church can do it, so can you.
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After Holloween Party! - Nov 7th at 7pm party! - Club Insomniacs, located in the same plaza as Bourbon Street in NPR is having a PRIVATE party for swingers Sunday Nov 7th starting at 7pm. Single females are $10.00, Single Males are $30.00, and couples are $20.00. There will be Karaoke, Games, Contests with prizes, and a buffet. Oh and it's a THEMED PARTY! Naughty Nighties *for the ladies* & Unusual Undies *for the men*!!!
Hope to see you there!!!
Josh and Meg!
Ways to point out Swingers in public - - My wife bought me a super cool chevron stack ring (3 rings that stack together) by David Yurman. The middle ring is black. I wear it on my right hand and sometimes pull the 2 silver rings off and just wear the black middle ring. I’m always on the look out for black rings. We have some friends that wear them.
WHAT ABOUT THE SINGLES - - I AM GATHER CONFUSED ABOUT THE FACT THAT IN SO MANY INVITES TO PARTYS THEY ONLY WANT COUPLES
WHAT ARE THE SINGLES TO DO
I AM A OLDER SINGLE MAN WHO FELLS THIS IS WRONG
I LIVE IN WASHINGTON STATE AND I CANT FIND ANY OTHER SINGLE SWINGERS
MY AGE OR YOUNGER
I UNDERSTAND COUPLES WANT COUPLES BUT WHY ARE THE SINGLES OUT IN THE COLD
INCEST - Is it sooooooo wrong? - First of all I\'m not going to be the one running and hiding if I run into someone in my family.. I\'m not a native NCarolinian either... This is one of the Hot beds of swinging right now with some 15 clubs in the state and more opening all the time. As for incest.. that\'s been one of the bible belt\'s most prolific sports. Drunks, drugs and incest... None of which is condoned in the right winged religious groups.. These are groups where it is bad to drink dance lay with your brother if you\'re a man but as you look at the reality.... Ministers getting their perrisheners pregnant, having sex with their yungins, drinking till you cain\'t stand up and or usin drugs to keep the smell of the hogs outchur nose. We\'ve got ABC here ... Alcohol Beverage Control in NC.. Which controls what you can buy how much you pay but doesn\'t address drunks buying liquor.
Incest is the least of anyones worries here... Beard, I know of sisters and brothers in the lifestyle... they don\'t play with each other but belong to the same club. Sisters who play with each others husbands...Not sure how close that is and if\'n ya evha waches the Jayree Springa show yo\'ll see plenty of that stuff, incest, girl doing brother and sister doing sister and mother doing daughter etc.. and they aren\'t even swingers.... So have fun with the concept not with the deed... It\'s not going to change and nothing we or anyone can do about it... So I just have to laugh and keep my eyes open and check ID\'s.
Life\'s too short to worry too much about any single thing.. If you were given a month to live what would you worry about for that month??? I would hope nothing and be too busy just living.
KUTV News Story on Swingers - News - Gasp! Tens of thousands of swingers here in Utah.
I believe Utah now has a slightly higher-than-average divorce rate. The national divorce rate is 3.4% with Utah slightly higher at 3.6%. The percent of divorced residents in Utah is reported as 9.3% which is the 18th lowest in the nation. Don't ask me how those numbers reconcile. It has something to do with immigration into the state I am guessing. New Jersey reports that 8.5% of it's residents are divorced and that is the lowest in the nation.
Well what do you think? Did more than 3.6% of all the swinger couples, that you have met end up getting a divorce? Was it over swinging? Are more than 9.3% of the swingers population divorced? This would include all the singles now swinging that were once married. One woman telling the media how swinging ended her marriage is anecdotal at best. Do I believe she is telling the truth? Yes I do. Do I personally believe swinging ads an extra element of jeopardy to a marriage? Yes I do. Do I believe there are quite a few people that would be happier staying away from the swinging lifestyle? Yes I do. Never-the-less, most of the couples, we have personally met, that are swingers seem to enjoy swinging and frankly enjoy doing it together. Do I believe there are quite a few couples who will enjoy swinging? Yes I do, we certainly have enjoyed the lifestyle experience as do a lot of swinging couples we have met. In the end if you are a married couple you have to make the decision based on the two of you, as to whether or not swinging is a good thing in your lives individually and as a couple. As for statistical models as to the divorce rate within the community of swingers well there aren't any. This isn't really a news story it's sensationalist journalism designed to attract viewers. Anyway, the divorce rate has been going down since the 1980s and swinging has been on the rise since the 1980s so you could make an analogy that swinging is saving marriage. Yes it would be a bunch of anecdotal bull shit just like this story.
Have you ever.... - - Not sure if I'd call it loving controversy as much just goofing off a little and knowing that things (even in swinging) are rarely black and white. We've been doing this a LONG time and have seen a LOT more scenarios, good AND bad, than most people here. People who haven't been in the scene for that long or had that many experiences often see things thru their swinger goggles and maybe don't really think of the potential down side. We've seen many swinger marriages bite the dust. Would you really like to be the straw that broke the camel's back in helping a vanilla marriage implode? I guess I just don't really see the thrill in vanilla hunting when there are tons of hot sexy swingers who know the game and want to hook up and fuck. Why stalk the unsuspecting when you know the potential for drama or worse is MUCH higher? Unless you like drama, which we definitely DON'T. Hey, no judgments. Some people actually love drama despite what they say in their profile. If you're really into skiing or motorcycling or hang gliding do you enjoy doing it with total noobs who have the potential to crash spectacularly? But, hey, do whatever floats yer boat.
For those who don’t understand the lifestyle - It’s what makes sense for you - The REALLY fucked up thing is how many people would or DO look down on swingers and swinging as something aberrant, abnormal, and disgusting, yet think people cheating and having affairs is a fairly normal part of life. It would seem that being open and upfront about your sexual desires with your spouse is somehow bad and sneaking around lying and cheating is good. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Advertising your self - Do it like You would a house or car - [quote=SIMPLEPLEASURES]We love the 1970's wedding pictures. Or pictures that include your kids. Then there is the pictures that clearly give the impression the wife has no idea she has become the member of a swinger site.
We are guilty a lot of our pictures are unedited. But we're going for that rough look. Fot us our fear of being outed has long since vanished. Wek don't advertise but all our family and friends know all our vacations include destinations that involve nudity. They all suspect or more likely know swinging is part of it. They ask questions from time to time hoping we will discuss it. Comments like yea when we were younger our friends asked if we would swap.
So no fear has its rewards, but why push it. It's not like we are the official ambassadors of the lifestyle. Nor missionaries for the cause.
Simples [/quote]
Exactly, it is not a cause but rather just a choice among many choices. Whether a couple or a single wants to self disclose by self dis-clothing online and show face pictures and create a profile that is stand alone sexy or play their cards very, very close to their chest is just another choice.
We have never taken a vacation to a nude resort or a swingers themed cruise or anything like that but we have had swing sex or sex with someone other than each other but not necessarily people that call themselves swingers while on vacation more than a couple of times.
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