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Safe Sex - How do you (or don't you) protect yourselves? - Condoms? Yes, please. However...I can think of quite a few reasons why some people are opposed to using them; Intimacy, sensation, alergies, penis size, etc. None of them seems compelling enough to me to make an acception though... As \"swingers\" there is very very very little possibility that we (despite the fact that mRs. Luvbugs is \"fixed\") would allow anyone to be with either of us unless there was protection involved. In 12 years we have seen unwanted pregnancys, a paternity suit that became very nasty, STD\'s passed from one couple to another, and complete dishonesty about the sexual history of the person in question. What cracks us both up is when we get these letters that say \"Vasectomy SAFE.\" Get the f**k outta here! Are you serious? Safe from what? Pregnancy? A condom will do that nicely buddy, and as long as you arent trying to fuck a hole in someones back, they shouldnt really break all that often. Everyone believes that they have led a good life and have avoided the contraction of an STD. I would like to be able to accept that fact in good faith, but there is no way I can allow myself to think in such a naiive manner. There are even those in this world who would KNOWINGLY pass a deadly disease such as AIDS to another person out of pure spite that they themselves have contracted it. There are risks with oral sex as well, but the probability of contracting anything serious is atleast somewhat less then through vaginal intercourse. I just cant see it. It amazes me. A person would have to be plain stupid to take that risk. Just our .02 cents. Luvbugs! (mR.) ;)

Online donations - A new way for lifestyle clubs to collect donations - Call your charity "The care of swingers" Fund. You don't have to justify the charity, only show a user-base that is interested in donating. If you are the one "taking care", all proceeds can go to you, since you are the one providing/ensuring their care. The money can be used in any manner that coincides with "the care of swingers" to include your compensation for working toward the care of swingers. The beauty of it is, you can even file for tax exempt status, save the income portion that goes to you and your staff for their work. If a church can do it, so can you. -D-

Ways to point out Swingers in public - - Well ok then I guess that’s not the best idea lol.

Curiouscpl91 - Identifying lifestylers - [quote=SHENANIGANIZER]We were at Leatherheads two Fridays ago, and I'm almost positive that we saw two different swinger groups. But like you said, we didn't want to disrespect anyone by asking them if they liked to fuck other people's spouses.[/quote] To be fair, there are LOTS of people who like to fuck other people's spouses who aren't swingers. [em]Emo_49[/em] And not to belabor the point but I think the odds of identifying fellow swingers (outside of a lifestyle party) based on what jewelry they're wearing is only slightly higher than asking random strangers on the street if they work at Costco. [em]Emo_67[/em]

Female sex fantasies. - What do women really think about sex? - [quote=EVILDOERS] We may have to agree to disagree here. We've been in the lifestyle for almost 3 decades and have talked to countless people (yes, many of them even women-haha) who have talked openly about the fantasies they have and have had and sometimes, sadly, how often those fantasies were stifled to some degree or another by societal expectations and repression as well as suppressed by how they were raised by their parents (especially their mothers..."Good girls don't do/say/think things like that."). [/quote] This is just anecdotal and you are failing to realize that you are talking to them in a LS scenario where everyone wants to be the super open and cool movie star-like swingers. Same reason all SM's in the LS are respectful, kind and the Good Lord's gift to couples seeking MFM or even the ones that are not. We all play The Imitation Game. They will talk to you openly, honestly, will tell you how much they enjoy it, how healthy for their relationship is. It almost becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. But, unless you were raised in a far away land where the LS was a norm and that we all know it has never existed, these confessions are an integral part of the illusion. And, if you take all that at face value, you are lying to yourself and even worst, believing it. [quote=EVILDOERS] It seems more than just a little condescending and even a little bit misogynistic.[/quote] I've been called worst lol. It's just biology, we think we are this almighty superior species, key to the universe, chosen to be sovereigns of all when all we are is just mammals with an unusually large brain victims of our own imagination and gullibility for the most part. And yes, imagination is sometimes good, that's how we got to the moon. But that's also why when you go to an Indian casino, you only see pictures last dozen big winners from last year but you don't see the thousands of losers of this week. Most of us are trapped in a dream and think we can make our own reality. "What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun." -Ecclesiastes 1:9

What is up with Utah?! - Swingers in Utah and nowhere else? - The owner lives here and once lived in FL. The presence from both places is strong. It also helps to have ton of sexually repressed (religiously oppressed) people here. -D-

Swingers at work... - - Red64 I think you handled things very poorly. You should never out someone at work or anywhere else. Do you want YOUR privacy compromised? We had a guy send us an email bragging about how he had seen us on another site and he wonders why we won't talk to him. Respect other peoples complete privacy at all times. If you work with them I don't think its even a good idea to send them an email on the site. Let it go. The old saying "don't get your honey where you make your money" can apply here. We put her pics on Watchersweb one time a while ago. Some moron sent us an email on the swingers site he saw us at bragging about he had seen her pics there. Even this is too far for us. If you know us fine, just keep your mouth shut, ok? This is exactly why we NEVER put face pics in public now.

PLEASURE PALACE NEW YEARS PARTY - HUGE PARTY ALL NIGHT LONG WITH BREAKFAST IN THE AM - ALOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN WRITING ME SAYING THEY WILL BE THERE FOR SURE . SO IT LOOKS LIKE ITS GOING TO BE A GREAT PARTY . IF U ARENT A MEMEBER TO PLEASURE PALACE . NOW IS THE TIME TO GET YOUR MEMBERSHIP . CAUSE THE NEW YEARS PARTY IS GOING TO BE A HUGE BLAST . IF U MISS IT THEN ILL SHARE MY PICS WITH U TO SHOW U ALL THE FUN U MISSED. HA HA I WOULD LOVE TO HANG OUT WITH ALL OF OUR FRIENDS. AND HOPEFULLY MEET ALOT OF NEW FRIENDS . PLEASURE PALACE IS A NON PRESSURE KINDA OF PLACE . SO IF U HAVE NEVER BEEN LET ME TELL U THERE IS NOTHING TO BE AFRAID OF THERE . THEIR PARTIES BRING IN FROM 500- 1500 PEOPLE . THERE IS ALOT OF SWINGERS GROUPS THAT GO THERE . AND FOR THE MOST PART. EVERYBODY IS SUPER FRIENDLY AND VERY RESPECTFUL . THIS IS OUR FAV SWINGERS CLUB . CAUSE OF THE WAY EVERYBODY IS THERE . THE COUPLE THAT RUNS IT TRIES VERY HARD TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS HAVING A GREAT NIGHT . THERE IS HOST COUPLES THAT SHOW U AROUND THE CLUB AND HELP U MEET NEW FRIENDS IF U WANT THEM TO . THEY SEVER ALOT OF FOOD AND SNACKS . ITS A BYOB CLUB . THE CLUB OPENS AT 800 AND U LEAVE WHENU WANT TO . THERE IS TWO SIDES TO THE PALACE . A TAME SIDE TO DRINK AND HANG OUT AND DANCE AND ALL OF THAT . BUT NO NUDITY . AND THEN THE WILD SIDE . WHERE U CAN BE NUDE . AND PLAY ANYWHERE AND EVERYWHERE . THEY HAVE MANY DIFFERENT THEME ROOMS . A HOT TUB . LOT S OF COUCHES TO SIT AND WATCH SOME GREAT LIVE SEX SHOWS OR MAKE ONE YOURSELF . A POOL TABLE TO PLAY AS U WISH ON . ALL KINDS OF NEAT STUFF ALL OVER . ITS REALLY A GREAT FUN CLUB . AND THE PEOPLE ARE SO EASY TO MAKE FRIENDS WITH . REALLY ALL IT TAKES IS A SMILE . IF U WANT TO MAKE MORE FRIENDS THEN JUST WALK AROUND AND SMILE AND U WILL. IF U JUST WANT TO SIT BACK AND WATCH EVERYBODY YOUR SPACE WILL BE GIVEN TO U . WE ALWAYS HAVE A BLAST THERE .A ND ANYONE ELSE THAT WE HAVE EVER INVTED HAS ALWAYS SAID THE SAME AND CAME BACK FOR MORE FUN TIMES . WARNING ...... GOING TO THIS CLUB WILL HURT YOUR MOUTH . EVERY TIME WE GO MY MOUTH HURTS FOR AT LEAST A DAY FROM SMILING AND LAUGHING SO MUCH . SO PLEASE COME ON BY PLEASURE PALACE AND SEE WHY EVERYBODY HAS SO MUCH FUN THERE . THIS IS THE PERFECT CLUB FOR ANY LEVEL OF SWINGERS . FROM WATCHERS TO NEWBIES LOOKING FOR FRIENDS TO HARD CORE SWINGERS LOOKING FOR GANG BANGS . THE CLUB HAS IT ALL . SEE EVERYBODY THERE . IF U SEE US PLEASE COME AND SAY HI . NO CAMS ARE ALOUD AT PLEASURE PALACE . WE ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT TAKE PICS THERE . WE TAKE PICS OF THE PARTIES FOR THE CLUB TO USE FOR THIER WEB SITE . WE TAKE PICS OF OR WITH ANYBODY THAT WANTS THEM DONE . AND THEN AFTER WE GET PERMISSION FROM U WITHPROOF ON WHO U ARE WE EMAIL THEM TO U OR PUT THEM ON THE SITES PARTY FOLDER FOR THAT PARTY . WHICH EVER WAY U WANT . NAUGHTY DREAMS FREAKY KITTY

Can I say hello? - What to do in public - Really for us it depends on the people that recognize us and whether or not they have some common sense and are sensitive enough to be careful when necessary. If they are the type of people that can say hello in a public place and be friendly without flaunting their swingers insignia and secret handshake and singing the swingers theme song and such then we have no problem being approached in public. The local churches all have the ultra vocal keepers of the faith that have to define everyone and everything under the Johnny one note shallow interpretation of their religion because it is too terrifying and painful to be a whole complex person and therefore they live for the pats on the back that come from the endless recitations of their creed. There are people that become far too single minded in all sorts of pursuits including swinging that can become just as annoying and dangerous. Where we are when you see us makes a difference too in what we consider appropriate. If we are in the grocery store or out to dinner with friends or family then saying hello is fine but we ask that anyone that approaches us please leave the swingers content completely out of what you say to us. Do not hit on us. Our friends and family know the two of us are busy and social and we both have friends as individuals and as a couple that we have met in a variety of ways so people say hello to us, which they do not know all the time anyway. Some people that we know are clients and so if we do not offer an explanation about how we know you, our family and friends assume it is probably from work. If we are at a bar and obviously looking playful and sexual in are demeanor and dress and you want to approach us fine, but even then be a bit discreet in your initial approach. If we are talking with someone or obviously with someone then be a bit discreet because we party with vanillas too. If they are people that we trust we probably won't care if they get a hint of what you and we might share in common. Many of our friends and even our family members know we are not always 100% monogamous and they also know we are multifaceted and involved in many things so non monogamy for us is only part of who we are and what we do and not a defining consuming aspect of our lives. We tend to shy away from saying hello to people in public places that recognize as being in the lifestyle unless we already know them because we do not want to make anyone uncomfortable.

Young Swingers Myspace Swinger Party@Club Hedonism - - Hey Mike and Suz YES We saw the same thing in a prior post re this party. STRANGE!!!!!!!!!! Age and looks should not be a reason to be allowed to attend any swing event unless pivate! Just how we feel.