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Imus Fired - The beginning of the end of Free Speech? - - Well it would seem that the people have the right answers are the swingers (lol). I am happy that a discussion like this can take place and that valid points are brought out that all of us can agree upon. Unfortunately for us and the future generations our friend TR's wishes that it would all just cease to exist is probably a very long way off (as far as our entire society adopting this idea). However we (the minority---(all races that agree racism should be eradicated regardless of what nationality it's against) can try and improve our own litle space and just hope that it becomes infectious. I personally would like to be treated and try to treat others based on the way the carry themselves regardless of what you look like (it seems that people are not only mistreated based on color but height, weight, education, social status, financial income, and yes even choice of music preference---as noted here just to name a few). In a perfect world we would all be blindfolded and could only draw conclusions about someone based on their actions, and then again would even that be correct??? I mean I enjoy the fact that people are different from me and enjoy different things---I can learn from them and hopefully have something to offer them as well (not just sex---mind out of the gutter, just for a few---lol) This was made clear to me as I learned the name of an african American nascar driver just from reading the replies in this forum. While I doubt that the few of us here have the perfect solution to make this ugly problem go away, it is at least comforting to know that there are PEOPLE in this world and on this site that seem to have a genuine concern for the fair treatment of all, and for that I'm glad that even though it was a cyber meeting--I still had the chance to communicate with you all......................

What is up with Swingular and Drama? - - Drama is on every swinger forum because, just like every other social group out there, some swingers never really graduated from junior high. There will always be the people that thrive on drama or have to build themselves up by causing others grief. Also : Anonymity on the internet empowers douche bags. These two factors combined explain away a lot.

Where do you go have Adult only sexual fun in Vegas... - Sexual fun - [quote=IHORUS69]Jen and I have been to "on-premises" swingers clubs all over the country. Number one hands down is New Horizons in Seattle. (No single men) . Second place is Freedom Acres, San Bernardino (No single men) and close third is Collette's in New Orleans (No single men). Don't waste your time on the East Coast or Chicago. Sad. In Vegas, each club has negatives, but the best in Vegas BY FAR is the Green Door hands down. We have been to all three on-premises clubs (not counting power exchange) and we will not ever go back to neither the rooster nor Oasis. The Green Door is big. VERY big compared to the other two. Its up-to date, and clean. Clean is very important when it comes to potentially how funky sex can deteriorate to--especially as funky as most of the people are at the Rooster. Now, that doesn't mean we haven't met other HOT couples who lost their way and went to the rooster, but I think we just got lucky. There are some scary effen and out-of-shape folks there. We even saw one loser getting tazed there. The Deco of the place is 70's at best and the high-light of the evening is some guy who croons Neil Diamond songs. Good god. up stairs play room is very small and inadequate. Oasis, bring your own date if you want to play. Very cliquey, very much like Chicago. Now the rooster and the Door both have single guys. But the Single guys at the rooster walk around with dick-in-hand and swarm like sharks. At the door there are a lot more areas where they cannot go but can watch from a distance, and they seem a LOT less tacky. Hope that helps. We love SLC swingers. Its a shame there is no on-premises club there yet.[/quote] As an out of towner as well, agree with you about most. Been to the rooster once, never again, repulsive, rooting from the cleanliness of the entire place. Been to the Green Door, the cleanliness you would expect. Common area and viewing area littered with single men, seems to be promoting their store. Not traveled like you, but have Trapeze in Miami area to compare these with, also in Atlanta which I find much more desirable than vegas clubs. The Artisan is a fun place and most times you can get something started if that is what you are looking for. Also find the VIP parties at Paris a great place to find like minded people, while not designated as a swinger club, easy to spot the couples looking for a lost night in vegas if that is what you are looking for.

What is up with Utah?! - Swingers in Utah and nowhere else? - Stand Up and let them here from all the Hotties in Florida..........WE ARE HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Issues at New Yorker…how do we fix them? - - Until an alternative arrives on the scene, perhaps just designating a couple of coffee shops along the Wasatch as swinger gathering places would at least give "swingers" a chance to meet face to face. Granted, you could not dress in lingerie, there would be no playroom, and you would have to have a way to self-identify. We are not full-on poly people, that are looking to fall in love, and establish something possibly as permanent as our marriage, but we do enjoy getting a bit smitten, and have quite a few friends who are full-on poly. Poly groups do this, and we used to meet with a group that met a Sunrise Coffee, and it was fun! We made friends. Good honest sober conversations. This group had a couple of designated nights. Maybe, the swinging lifestyle community could do something similar. No worries about getting raided.

Denial - What is the proper way to turn someone down. - Your worrying about it too much. Hope this doesn't offend, but really you are over thinking it. I'd just do what you want to do and not worry about what everyone feels or thinks. The only thing you SHOULD do if you don't want to get a lot of emails telling you how stuck up you are, is just be NICE. Being NICE is actually pretty hard for some people and I still don't understand why. As for answering the mountains of board mails you will get on this site, Don't stress it. We used to think we should respond to every email and I'll tell you right now, it's impossible. We made a rule really early and that was that your friend request would only be approved if we did in fact know you personally, or if the one asking had made some effort to get to know us in a Chat room, or by email. One thing though that I would advise you as newbies on this site. If you allow your "sexual preferences" to dictate who and if you will meet someone in the lifestyle, then you are going to miss out on it's rich experience. Not everyone you meet that you may develop of friendship with is going to want to fuck you. So I'd not worry about meeting new people, even if they are asking to be your friend online. The key is always controlling how you'll meet people (which is easy) and then letting things take their course. As for the "old" factor. You both are going to be really disappointed then with the "No one over 35" rule. The average age for Swingers in the United States is 35-45. Your wife is fairly young, she feels funny about guys my age being her Dad's age, well the feeling is mutual. Contrary to what some women might think, it's not all about the tight ass and perky boobs. But as for a friendship (non-sexual) why the hell not? If your patient, friendly, and get out there and meet other swingers (like the parties), I think you'll find what you are looking for in sexual partners. I also think in some cases newbies are pretty "fixed" on what they think they want sexually. But after 4 years you may notice that what you "thought was ideal" is no longer the case. Keeping an open mind is pretty important in anything in life and it's not a bad idea in regards to swinging as well. Good luck to you guys Mr ABC

On Premise Swingers Club - SLC - we would join and come regular would love to see a place like this

Ways to point out Swingers in public - - ^ all true, but if we see a black ring on a right hand AND a wedding ring on the left hand, we’re going to ask a few subtle questions to see if they are LS or not. It’s just for fun, chances are still low they are LS. As far as picking LS couples out...pre-LS we wouldn’t know what to look for but now it’s not that hard. Watch them at a club and you can often tell. It’s a fun game to play.

Swinger cruise - YOLO cruise on Carnival Legend (April 26th) - We've been in the lifestyle for about 3-3 1/2 years and I am wondering if most swingers are also nudists. I am curious because of this discussion about when/if nudity is allowed around the pool. When BEACHWITHUS said the following, "implying that anytime you want to lounge poolside, you can do so, nude, which is what you'd expect from a lifestyle cruise" I wondered if this IS what people expect on a lifestyle cruise. While we've gone to nudist resorts several times for lifestyle parties, and are comfortable being nude in that environment, we don't consider ourselves nudists. I know that many nudists are quick to clarify that they are NOT swingers. Are there swingers who also feel they aren't nudists? We've been on other lifestyle cruises that were not complete take-overs (since this is the first after all) and it was still a good time even though there were MANY more restrictions & limitations around the ship except for in the private lounge they provided where we could be skimpier, saucier, racier...awww, you get the idea. LOL Being free to be more open and dress sexier can make this cruise much more fun and exciting! It seems from the message sent out clarifying the rules about nudity on the ship that we'll get to see lots of skin for all but 2 days while in port. So, will most of those cruising be nudists or will there be those swingers who aren't nudists? Will there be some who wear a bikini or just go topless or will the majority be nudists? I am asking because I am curious...I know that we are going to have SO much fun whether we are nude or not!!!

Being pregnant in the lifestyle - - We would have to agree pregnant woman are the most sexiest. Unfortuantly around us everyone takes a break from the lifestyle durring this time. This is more then likely why we have an attraction also to woman that have meat on then. Woman seem tobe sexier with meat on them instead of the small framed woman. Please dont get us wrong we like all shapes and sizes but just love full figured woman.. People please always practice safe sex, T got fixed 9 years ago and even with our old girlfriend that we had for a year he still practiced safe sex. It all really hit home for alot of people here in Idaho THis summer when in a swingers group we where memebers they had an out break of clamidia(may not be spelled right) it was scary because with B being bisexual she could have got it easy enough. so remember this if you use your toys on another woman cover them with condoms also. Safety first.. T & B