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stupid posts on topics that may make newbies change their minds! - - If Amy is addressing some rules of etiquette, in regards to forum posting, I think to immediately dismiss her is unfair. I cannot seem to comprehend how someone posting something stupid, moronic or childish would have a negative affect on a new couple or individual's decision to look into swinging? I can understand how posting something stupid, moronic or childish might have a negative affect on how a couple or individual. with any level of experience, might feel about the poster. Perhaps, Amy is addressing how often we just go off topic? Is that not perhaps a valid complaint? Amy, has a valid point, in that interrupting a conversation can be rude. If a poster opens up a thread, within these forums, that is pertinent to the swinging lifestyle, and a discussion begins, perhaps it is appropriate, to let the conversation evolve around the topic. If a poster makes a statement, that anyone feels to be offensive, dangerous or inaccurate, and someone disagrees then voicing their opposition, is still subject relevant. Personally, if an original posture, opens up, or ventures into a discussion, that seems predatory or abusive, I see no reason to not at least ask for clarification, to make sure I am understanding correctly, what they are saying, or if it is quite clear what they are saying to voice my disagreement. The world ask us all to be far too agentic and compliant. Just because someone says something that involves sex, should not make it acceptable, if it is in violation of anyone's humanity. Amy mentions posting on topics that may have new swingers change their minds about swinging, and not just humor. New people investigating swinging, perhaps, should know that the level of intimacy, found in swinging, creates a certain additional level of risk. To dwell on it, to the point we trust no one may be counter productive. Perhaps, giving anyone with any sort of abusive and or unhealthy approach toward their fellow human beings too much time on the front page forums could lead anyone investigating the lifestyle to flee even more than stupid humor. We would rather laugh than to be marginalized and or abusively objectified. Personally, I think some of the more ridiculous post, and questions, that were intended as a serious question, will die rather quickly if everyone adopted a subject relevant attitude toward contributing to the forum threads. But what about the post that are swinging lifestyle relevant, that are interesting, and that perhaps, especially for someone new, might be beneficial? Is it possible that to go off subject, so that those discussing the subject at hand, have to sift through all our off topic humor, might be rude? Personally, I enjoy reading a lot of the playful nonsense, that ends up in the forums. Never-the-less, I have decided, that I will personally, try and avoid getting off topic, unless the original post was obviously written in such a manner that it seem to invite some level of ridiculousness or was obviously leading toward a more expansive discussion. If the original poster, seems happy to wander, even if the discussion wanders around a bit, even if it is a serious subject, I think I can feel safe to go off topic, and even then to be more careful. So Amy, if you are asking to be respected, I have decided to, think and rethink, before I submit anything off topic. Hopefully, I am on topic at present.

Invatation to swingers. - open letter against Dr. Phil - "only people who dont get laid enough seem to complain about the Lifestyle ? All we can say is "Go Get Laid" and Clean up your Own Back Yard First ! " Not sure what was meant by this? Not even really sure who it was directed toward.

Swingers In Uniform - Pay your memorial day respects here. - I whole-heartedly agree with your statement...as I mentioned earlier in the thread...I spent 20 years (and two wars) of my life defending the country and it's constitution...and the constitution guarantees everyone the right to say just about anything (short of perjury) they want... As much as I dislike what was said, I have spent my life defending his right to say it... This whole thing brings back a memory...many years ago (please excuse some of the "wording" as it's not meant to offend, it's simply exact quotes of others)... When I was a young Second Lieutenant, my unit was sent to do "riot control" for a large march by Hosea Williams and his group...as you can guess, the Klan, skinheads and other distasteful groups planned to (and did) show up to "counter protest"...my unit was scheduled to be deployed between the two groups... The night before, I was talking to my platoon...talking about the possibilities of the next morning when the march/protest...hoping that I might prepare them for the verbal abuse they were sure to endure, we talked about it and how to react...my platoon sergeant (who happened to be black) asked me "So sir...are you saying they might call me Nigger?" Of course, it was said tongue in cheek...he KNEW that is what we were talking about...knew it was going to happen...and simply put us all at ease by just saying it and getting it out in the open...his response was so true: "Sir, those are just words and I really feel sorry for those people who have so much anger and hate in them that their only outlet is such an ignorant display - if they were really capable of expressing themselves intelligently they wouldn't have to resort to that - when I remember that, I realize just how much I feel sorry for them...and it's hard to get mad at someone you pity" - plus, I'm a soldier and I have sworn to protect their right to call me a Nigger"... At that, everyone in the room laughed quite loudly...my platoon sergeant was quite the philosopher if you ask me... SO, Don Juan...free free to make all the comments you want...no matter how ignorant, angry or uninformed they may be...I will continue to defend your right to do so...if you ever come to realize just why you are allowed to say those things without fear of persecution, maybe you'll change your mind...

What are swingers really looking for ?Are they looking for frien - Has the happen to you. - mmmmmm yeah it could be cool. point do i really care i say what I want ill run on and on and on dont like it dont read it

Bare Necessities Cruise out of Ft. Lauderdale - Anyone going - Well, it is a nudist cruise out of Ft. Lauderdale that goes to the Bahamas, Half Moon Cay, Key West (two days during Fantasy Fest), and then to Cozumel. While it isn't a swingers cruise, there are a pretty good number of swingers going and should be fun. Here is a link for it: http://www.bare-necessities.com/fantasea.html

swinger club in Clarksville TN. - - There is a guy who is in the process of building a swingers club in CLarksville TN. we would like to know who in our town would join this club and if they think it's a good idea?

Christain Swingers? - - Respecting what Karl Marx said doesn't make you a communist.....he was right. It all boils down to fear, the Christian religion uses it, and so does the republican party. Why you ask? Because it's easier to control people when they are afraid.I don't understand how anyone who is free with their sexualitty can be either a Christian, or a republican....but that's just me. I mean it's not liberals that wanna ban pornography, or ban a womans right to do what she wants with her body. In my humble opinion, if you don't like abortion, don't fucking have one, period, end of discussion. Btw, If you disagree, I'm a liberal, I think you have a right to do so, I don't think you should have to stand in "free speech zones" , or be a registered republican to address your president. But this is my opinion and I'm sticking to it.

Pink flamingo - How many swingers have a pink flamingo in their front yard? - We’re not that cool lol but we have a solar pineapples now that’s cool 😀

Lake Powell Trip June 11-14 (Last Topic got deleted somehow) - - OK,, not sure where the Announcement went but lets do this again.... Every year, we put on a Lake Powell trip. In previous years, it has been a mixed crowd,, swingers and vanillas. This year we are going to change it up and add a trip in June that is Lifestylers only. Dates for this are June 11-14. We are still doing the August trip as well, but it will be a bit tamer than the June trip. Houseboats will be availible for those that want to go. The cost last year for the houseboats worked out to be around $800 for the 4 days per couple. This included fuel. With decreased fuel prices this year, it should be a bit less. If we get enough people to warrant it, and if I can talk the pig supplier to provide pigs twice in one year (Yes, Buttabing, this is directed towards you) we will do a luau pig on Saturday night. Last year, some people tent camped as well so staying on a houseboat is not a requirement. As a courtesy though to those that are renting the houseboats, if you do use the amenities of the houseboat such as bathrooms, showers, cooking and kitchen stuff, etc... you donate to whoever rented the boat. Having a boat is not a requirement. Those that do have them don't seem to have a problem "adopting" those that don't. A bunch of peeps from this site went last year and from what we hear, everyone had a good time. I will need commitments from those that want to go no later than March 29th so I can ensure that I tie up enough houseboats for those that want them.

Swingers cars??? - What ya driving?? - Looks like the Camaro is the official swinger car. This was the first one in Utah in 2009