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Curiouscpl91 - Identifying lifestylers - [quote=SHENANIGANIZER]We were at Leatherheads two Fridays ago, and I'm almost positive that we saw two different swinger groups. But like you said, we didn't want to disrespect anyone by asking them if they liked to fuck other people's spouses.[/quote]
To be fair, there are LOTS of people who like to fuck other people's spouses who aren't swingers. [em]Emo_49[/em]
And not to belabor the point but I think the odds of identifying fellow swingers (outside of a lifestyle party) based on what jewelry they're wearing is only slightly higher than asking random strangers on the street if they work at Costco. [em]Emo_67[/em]
Vegas Recommendations? - Where do you recommend we go in Vegas - Swing club wise that is. - We have attended, and can recommend, the weekly Purrfect LV parties. They take place in a club in the Mandalay Bay. There is a private bar but you are free to mingle in the main part of the club where you can identify other swingers by their wristbands (necessary to enter the private space). There is also an after-party for the adventurous. The events are extremely well organized and attract a mix of locals and out-of-towners.
Swingers In Uniform - Pay your memorial day respects here. -
"Semper Paratus"
Ray & Di
Scuba, Nude Beaches, Swingers - Scuba, Nude Beaches, Swingers - oh man...we love nude beaches....we went down to St. Martin last year and had an awesome time on the nude beach
Help With Wife - Wife has fantasies but is super hesitant to experiment. - Seriously, we have five kids, all now adults, and we spent two decades happily monogamous. We fantasied about doing this sort of thing but we were so busy doing the family thing and we didn't know any swingers. I met a few people in the lifestyle that invited myself and my wife to a few meet and greets and she really liked the people. We hooked up with a couple one night, also kind of inexperienced, and we had a nice dinner on the town, and good conversation but none of us pulled the lets fuck trigger. Later the next week a guy I knew for some time, who was a long time lifestyle sort, out of the blue invited us over to his place. Well it happened and she loved, loved, loved having both of us ravish her. Next hook up with a couple it happened again and then again and again and again. Yes there have been just a few awkward moments and even a couple of embarrassing moments too, but all in all we have really enjoyed all the wonderful, erotic non monogamy. Yes we are still each others favorite lovers, and we have both had more than a few, and no, absolutely in no way has fucking other people been bad for our relationship. It's not what defines you and it is not a cause but it is a wonderful adventure you two can enjoy together. We have been swinging for well more than a decade now!!
Swingers Kickball Society - - Our first kickball game will be this coming Thursday on June 3rd send a message if you want to join the group. Looking for couples.
KUTV2 NEWS 10:00 P.M. TUESDAY NIGHT - Couples Now At Risk - We get tested frequently and in doing so the people that do the testing are pretty open and communicative. Yes there has been a pretty consistent rise in positive test along the Wasatch Front. Yes some of the people testing positive self identified as swingers. Non monogamous sexual activity involving multiple partners increases risk. Closed circle play groups are an option so long as everyone in the group restricts their sexual activity within the group. If you are forming a group via a mass announcement you will get some serious candidates that apply and even more candidates applying that basically will join any and every group that might afford them the chance of having sex. Private play groups really do work if established through private invitation. We have enjoyed those types of arrangements in the past. Private groups seem to work out really well if everyone lives relatively close, are similar in what they desire, there is chemistry and the members are not in a mindset to fulfill a bucket list of sexual desires that are not possible within the group.
Appropriate Parameters of Sexual Conduct in Modern Society - Should sex still have a unique status or just be another hobby? - Beard, You did open something up but I'm not sure what.
I had to copy and paste your original here so I didn't miss or get too confused..
One of your last points first: Moral refers to standards as defined by the church, the government or your neighbors(in light of the Supreme Court decission a few years ago about porn) Ethics, on the other hand are something that we define for ourselves based on our upbringing/environment and values that we have defined based on whatever we base them on.
You are right that marriage is a concept designed by religion and the government for the care of offspring and the clear definition of linage for property rights. You use the term marriage, which is a legal term like it is a moral imperative then ask if it should be based on some one or group of common interrests. Then the next breath you suggest that marriage is supposed to be more than any of that and something to do with sharing and intimacy. Finally you go back to somehow trying to make a point, (I'm not sure what that point was) that maybe there should be a conglomerate of reasons for marriage then with the nesxt breath you ask if sex should be forbidden..
Now lets see if this makes any sense to anyone. I'm poly and We swing. I have a lover who is married and her husband knows or us(he is not poly) and B knows of us and we are all good friends. We are, my lover and I, intimate both emotionally and sexually and both non poly mates knowof this. B and I are very much soulmates but then my lover is also very close to that as well. I do not wish to take her away from her husband and I do not wish to replace B. She does not want to replace her husband with me and we are alll OK with that arrangement.
In my heart of heart I am married to both in a very intimate way although I do not wish to procreate with anyone anymore. She feels the same way toward me. I would submit that marriage is an intimate, emotional and sometimes physical union of people.. I did not say two people I said people. We have been taught sex as a negative thing and relationships with more than one as a negative thing because we cannot love more than one person or more than one at any one time... I submit that we can love more than one and that the more we love the more we get back from that...
Swinging is started off as fun between close friends and sometimes the term wife swapping became a reality.... Sex is fun adn swinging is about sex and today alot of times about relationships. Relationships in my opinion are for the benefit of everyone involved... .
So I'm not sure if I understood where you were going but this is my take on the propositions as I understood them.
Depending on any person's opinion or preferences sex and love can be the same or they can be separate or they can be coincidental but it's basically up to that person or couple to make that determination....
We, in the lifestyle, may ultimately be right and marriage may change to a more contractual thing rather than some sacrosanct BS that it has become.... Swingers as a group have more than 3.4 time greater chance of remaining married than that of non swingers. The range of failed marriages is between 66 and 77% in all first and second marriages and some 70% of all married people cheat on their mates. Swinger have a better than 85% chance of marriage survival. Cheating is not exempt in Swinging but I think is is greatly reduced...
I think as swingers we have sex with friends and it can be just that or it can be more... at least for me..
Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - Helicopter dick!!! Ya baby!!!
Finding Connections - Do the majority of swingers wait to be approached? - The connections we have mainly made have been though partys we have found here. Other than that it's hit and miss with searching and sending messages and friend request, (please at least send a message if you are sending a friend request).
That has been our limited experience. We would love to know how to make more connections, if anyone has any suggestions.
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