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Anything but Habits?! - Chill Hangouts? - Thanks guys! Next time you guys do a Meet and Greet there we'll have to come for sure! Sounds like a fun place! Do lots of swingers go there on a normal basis? Does anyone know about Metro Bar on Friday nights? I heard that could be lots of fun too?!
Are we really as judgmental as vanilla people? - - It strikes me that, [i][b]in general[/b][/i], people fall into one of two groups:
A. Those interested in the total social experience the lifestyle offers (multi-faceted).
B. Those interested primarily in sex (very goal-specific).
The number of people in group B is considerable. 'B' folks are much more likely to hold appearance and physical desirability as the only criteria for evaluating playmates. 'A' folks are more interested in the total package.
I don't think it's necessarily right to fault those in group B for their limited interest in people beyond their sexual skills and desirability. How they conduct themselves is another story, however.
Immaturity has been mentioned. Selfishness and poor social skills also surely come into play. Society in general continues to become more and more hooked on instant gratification, leaving little room for concern for others.
This issue is reflective of society in general. Those in the lifestyle are, in fact, just a microcosm of the bigger picture, as previously pointed out. Does anyone really think swingers are any different? If anything, they are a subgroup [i][b]even more[/b][/i] into instant gratification and seeking only specifically what they want.
Married & single? - single minded affrairs? -
It is a double standard. We have meet several couples that would never consider a cheating guy, but would a cheating woman. I think some people ignore the double standard because of the Law of scarcity.
Married/relationship bound men that are exploring without their spouse are no different from Single men has been our experience.
If anyone Male or Female is having a sexual or emotional relationship without their primary partner's knowledge then they are cheating. It's not a matter of the quality or quantity or even if the partner had suspicions or not. It's a matter of trust which they are breaking by having a relationship that their partner would not approve of.
And yes the Law of Scarcity is accepted by many swingers in regard to a female wanting to explore.....including us.
Lying About Your Age? - Is lying about your age considered proper? - I know in our area age is a big thing to some of the swingers. We have always told the truth about our age and update it every year and often we get responce to our messages that they are looking for younger people. So I guess that is a reason some of the people lie about there age.
Fullsize Lifestyle Cruise Takeover 2010 - 2500 Swingers on Royal Caribbean's Radiance of the Seas - Are There any Rooms Avilable??? We would like to book. We went on the first cruise out of Tampa April 2009. Had a great time :-O !!!! Balticsun
Looking to establish a group of safe swingers - - Yes, we are definitely interested. We have been in this area for a few months. We left our other group in Texas. We are also looking for a good group to join here.
How to get Girl on GIRL...solo??? - trying to find that elusive, no drama, chick - I'll chime-in reiterating what other have said. First, the reason these single females disappear, never meeting you is because they are horny guys playing online games and looking at pictures to get-off.
Second, we agree with Thoughtgarden 100%. EVERY FMF we've had came from the most unexpected place when we weren't even looking at the moment. These are women we met at non-swinger parties, night clubs, etc.
I think this is because for the most part, unlike single guys, single women are not actively pursuing threesomes and moresomes. Single women are not creating the number of profiles on swingers sites like single men. If they happen, great. If they don't, that's okay too. It's now that they aren't interested, they're just not out there pursuing it on a daily basis.
A couple of suggestions:
1) Look everywhere. Remember when you used to go out to clubs by yourself or with a friend when you were single and you'd meet someone? Same thing, except now you're doing it as a couple. Instead of boy picking-up girl, or girl picking-up guy, it's now couple picking-up girl. You are BOTH dating her, not just one of you.
2) Couples is a good place to start, even if you are not interested in full swap right now. Going to the meet and greets and getting to know people and them getting to know you helps. You may find a couple that is okay with playing solo and would love to fulfill your fantasy with wifey playing with you two. But, if you don't get out there and get known to people you'll never find them.
Good luck! And keep trying. We were in the lifestyle as a full swap couple for quite a while before our first FMF, and it literally came-out of thin air when we were least expecting it.
Disabled Swingers - - [quote=UTAHCOUPLE4PLAY]Someone being disabled for us is not a factor. We have learned over the years that if we had only chosen good looking, fit, active people then we would have missed out on the best times we ever had. If someone has a great personality and a desire to have fun, there is some chemistry then hell yes, lets have some fun.[/quote]
we are right there with you, fun people are fun people, regaurdless of looks,size, ability, or what ever, attitude is what is attractive to us.
Logan - Vasa gyms - [quote=Utahldscouple][quote=EVILDOERS]As to the second part of your question, we haven't actually played AT the gym since the old Sports Forum in Woods Cross was open. We used to occasionally sneak into the spin room when the gym wasn't crowded and do naughty stuff. Only once with another couple tho. [em]Emo_82[/em] [/quote]Thats hot. We should create a swingers only gym 😀![/quote]
YAAAS! With hardcore porn in the Cardio Cinema! [em]Emo_12[/em]
Searching for Sensual Photographer - - Gio is amazing GIOPHOTO is his profile name. Very classy and makes you feel comfortable. He has photographed many swingers and would be happy to show you his work. Tell him Koigirl sent you.
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