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Single Male Market - Need feedback on a feature idea. - Brilliant! Thousands of other guys!!! That is very well said! I actually did some soul searching a couple of months ago and I noticed the difference.. I am pretty sure someone is saying I may be lucky because we have some “Affirmative Action Swingers” LOL

What would you do? - what does a person do when their spouse no longer wishes to paticipate - There have been a lot of valid and reasonable points made. My fiancee and I are swingers, and we enjoy seeing each other with the same sex, as well as, the opposite sex. We have sat down and discussed it at great lengths. Like Tequila stated, it is recreational, it does not define our relationship. We like to meet as a couple, and we play as a couple, never separately. That is us, and how we swing. I agree that they must sit down and discuss it. Not sure about the counseling. I think they work it out between themselves. I wish them the best! Ron

AZ Clubs - - [quote=JADEANDJAY]Not sure if it's still there, but when we used to live there we used to frequent Club Chameleon or Guys and Dolls.[/quote] Both have been gone for several years now. Chameleon was one of the best in the US. I have had some spectacular times there. The owners opened a diner on the east side of the valley after their club got closed down. Even though some of the old club regulars show up there, it never turned into a pick up joint. Somehow, Discretions & Encounters both survived in Phoenix. They are both much more low brow. I think that I know who put the screws to Chameleon, but I'm not 100% sure, so I'm not going to name names. The person that I think it was, got thrown out for being too drunk & rowdy, then went on a rampage in revenge. He was a hot rod builder with a lot of attitude. The last words that I remember from him were "you mess with the bull, you get the horns". There are a few bars in town that host meet & greets for local Yahoo groups, but the crowds there tend to be a bit cliquish. There is a low key party in Havisu that is very good, but it's hard to find & hard to get an invite. Havisu in general is a good place to pick up party girls if you have a boat on the lake. Tucson has an upscale nudist resort that attracts a small amount of low key swingers. Tucson also has a honkey tonk Drink-em-up bar that is run by "god" & boasts a well equipped side room for people who are feeling frisky. Just ask "god" for the "full tour" & you will get an eyefull. West of Phoenix, there are some mud baths & hot springs that occasionally see some playful action. A little north of the city, near round valley, there are some hiking areas with swimming holes that sometimes attract frisky individuals. If you are looking for kink in Phoenix, try APEX. If you want better odds at a good swinging experience, hop a quick flight over to Vegas. It's not that far. California has even better options, but it's a bit more of a ride.

Swingers In Uniform - Pay your memorial day respects here. - Hell Yah! To those who give us freedom, to my best friend Tom who was in the first marine devision that went into Iraq. thank you and bless you all. Patty and Rich

Swingers dying out? - Is the utah swinger community dying or becoming to needy? - Yep, swinging's as dead as a doornail. We're thinking of taking up pornographic cross- stitching to fill the void. [em]Emo_96[/em]

Wow ....check this out... - - DJQ wrote: Wow... This thread suddenly got popular while I wasn't looking... Kids, I'll try to give each of your posts the consideration they deserve (about 2 seconds, in some cases; in others, a bit more) later, but right now I have tonight's class to prepare for, and I'd hate to have to tell my students that I didn't get the class materials ready because I was chatting with a bunch of swingers about Dubya Bush... (grin) And after class, I have a gratuitous booty call scheduled, and then a busy day at work tomorrow... so look for replies on Thursday evening or Friday... Thanks for pitching in... .................................................................................................. Someone get the smelling salts. I think DJQ is unconscious again. He's clicking his heels together and mumbling a bunch of nonsense. I know, I know he does that when he's awake too. Just get the salts anyway. Booty call???? That would require for your hand to have a booty DJQ. Booties are not something drawn on. You should know this. Oh and Don't forget the Dungeon Master's Guide when you're "teaching" your students. Next time you should get out a bullhorn and walk down the street. You are a master of self-flattery DJQ. It makes you look that much more like a blowhard prick. These are just some observations from a couple that has actually met people on this site. Take it how you will. Knowing you, you'll come up with something only you find witty and miss the helpful hint in this post. (GRIN) -TR-

big - - GARYLSTAR, This is a swinger site. Not a picture site. LOL It's for swingers to meet on any level they so choose. Pics and writing are both ways of doing it. I hardly think 95% of the people come for the pics. I sure as hell don't come here for the pictures. I can tons of images for free all over the web. -D-

Jewellery, logos, etc to identify other swingers - We would like info on websites catering to discreet items to let others "know" we are in the lifestyle - I've got an idea, we could start a web site where everybody could get together and talk and see pics of each other and call and meet........ Now what would we call it swing......swingpeople,,,,,,swingular,,,,,,, thats it lets call it Swingular,,,,,,,,What! somebody beat me to it.

What sets you apart from other swingers - Lets see whos looking for what. - What makes me different is first, my ability to read what the other COUPLE is looking for i.e. the type of encounter, making sure there truly aren't any hangups or jealousy issues, what kind of approach I should take in flirting and foreplay, etc. This happens before the act and is kind of more of a big picture thing. Then reading what the FEMALE is looking for... For example, I love petite women depending on the girl and her fantasies some like to be manhandled a bit and some need to be treated like delicate little flowers. This is like a small picture thing. Then, on the micro level, just guiding the encounter and seeing what's getting her off. Most every guy can do this and thinks it makes him a great lover, but I consider this to be Basic. No one has posted a weakness yet? I suppose I'll go first. I like to come as many times as possible in an encounter and know how to keep a girl cumming in between. Sometimes, and this goes back to reading your partner, a girl wants to be "pounded all night" (gangbang girls) or just wants to go for one extended round. In a group environment it's easy to just take the tag and sit out, but for 1 on 1 I have less fun this way.

Taking the time... - - I have actually turned down invitations from VERY experienced swingers mindful and concerned about being fully able to play my part in accordance with what I imagine their standards might be and/or probably are. I would prefer, still, to play with less experienced people and learn the ropes, so to speak. One of my interests in pursuing this at all is to learn more about sexuality ... others' as well as my own.