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Now a single male looking for a rebound play - - Yeah, swinging can cause huge pressure on a marriage and totally screw it up. I'm sure that's why most swingers, myself included, would never recommend swinging as a way to "spice-up" a marriage that is having some difficulty. You definitely have to be on the same page as your partner in order to give swinging a go -- and then be pretty damn quick on your feet and adaptable as things get going -- perhaps in a direction that you didn't expect. I don't get though, why the OP is back here if he's not interested in swinging for the long term or looking for a woman who is interested in it? Seems this OP is more suited for a singles-type site. And Evil, yes I'd like to see your listing 'cause I'm guessing that at least one of the items involves a douche-canoe going over a large peefall before crashing into a turd log. Or other such silliness, much funnier than what I've just described! ;) Yes ... I know your personality here!

Soft swap - Soft swap vs Full swap - Maybe soft swap for swingers is kinda like anal sex for little Christian virgin chicks. They don't call anal "God's Loophole" for nothing. LOL [video]http://youtu.be/j8ZF_R_j0OY[/video]

Does this happen to any other women? - General Discussion - This is sort of a venting as well as a general question. A bit personal, I know...however judging by other forums, I think it will be acceptable. I just want to know how other swingers perceive it and/or deal with it. For some strange reason it seems that whenever we make plans to go out to a swinger's club for a special party, or a really good swinger's house party...Aunt Flo shows up uninvited. I have had her show up FIVE days early and/or three or four days late just to ruin a potential good time. I don't know if it's because I'm worried about her coming subconsciously or it's just bad luck but it's quite frustrating :( Please tell me that others out there have this same experience as often as I do and that I'm not alone. Now I don't know about others in the lifestyle, but I have had many discussions with male friends and boyfriends in my life who won't come near a woman on their dot, they are repulsed by it. This way of thinking passed on to me so I wouldn't even consider trying to initiate anything sexual until Auntie packed her bags and left for the remainder of the month. I find myself very lucky to be with a man who doesn't mind it because it's "natural for a woman" and he has taught me to become quite comfortable with sexy time with him while Auntie is visiting. This is great because I tend to get quite aroused when Auntie is visiting. We were discussing it the other day and he mentioned that there are bound to be other swingers out there that don't mind playing with a woman on her dot. I wonder how true that is so I figured I would put it out there for everyone else to respond.

Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - We have been in the lifestyle for a few years and have had the pleasure to play with single men alone and in party situations. Occasionally there is a man who turns things into a "sausage fest". Meaning; we have seen married men pushed from the fray by single men, and the women being overwhelmed by uneven numbers. We have also had the pleasure (and I mean that literally) of playing with very respectful single men. I hate the fact that for some one bad apple... unfortunately that is kinda how it is among human beings. Sadly the majority of our experiances have not been really positive. There is the risk of attachment (been there, not good) We like the even numbers, in a house party situation but if what we are looking for is a threesome... Bring it on! By the way The name has nothing to do with it for us, I mean we are dodge! lol

Scuba, Nude Beaches, Swingers - Scuba, Nude Beaches, Swingers - We also love to dive and was thinking how much fun it would be to do a livaboard trip with swingers. I dont know of any outfits that would possibly allow it but think it would be fun. We spent 7 days on the Cat Pallue in the Bahamas diving the Exumas what a blast. Anyways if something comes about with a nude cruise let us know.

Looking to establish a group of safe swingers - - Interested as well

Age - New to the swingers community - is age a factor in how a couple is viewed? - As we all know that there are a lot of people out there that don't act there age. Most people have comfort levels of age groups that they are comfortable with, we for the most part don't try to judge people by there age but do try to limit ourselves to people older than our kids for obvious reasons and not as old as our parents for the same reasons.

Memorial day weekend swingers party in tooele. - (READ FULL POST) Hosting our first party the weekend or memorial day on saturday the 25th - Ok so attempt 2: after we tried for the 11th only to have my wifes work made it impossible to do. We are now having our swingers party on saturday the 25th during memorial day weekend. This will be a super chill atmoshpere and will not be a massive open door party. We have a few guest already but welcome some more for sure. This party will be at our house in tooele. We will have several rooms set up for hangingout/playing. Along with drinks and naughty games as well. So please enjoy yourselves. That said, there are some rules and disclaimers that we want out there 1) if you play use protection. We will have latex and non-latex condoms for use. 2)No means no. If a couple or single females tells you no do not push your luck. 3)this is a party, come to our house ready to hangout. Not to fuck. We have neighbors and lives. 4) any rooms labeled do not enter... do not enter. (Mostly our kids room and the garage) 5) respect each others rules. If a couple wants to play but shes not into anal then no anal also if there is someone not wanting to be recorded or pictured then dont. Disclaimers!!! 1) alcohal is available that being said we expect a very late night if you need to crash or sober up please do so. We will not be responsible for drunk drivers so if you cant drive sleep or better yet fuck it off ;-) 2) we are not open to single males!!! We have some already in mind if we feel we dont have enough couples. They will be contacted if we should allow it. Dont contact us asking to join. You wont. 3)this is open to all couples but we are in tooele. If your willing to make that drive then your welcome to come. If you live in tooele all the better. 4) do not reply to this post saying "i'm in" directly message us please Thats is all hope to see some of you there

What is your fondest sports memory - - Yeah, I know this is a swingers site but since the boring Monday football forum went off with no drama I thought why not stay on a lighter topic the sports enthusiests can enjoy. So when I see them selling dvd sport follies or greatest moments in sports on tv one thing always comes to my mind. That would be watching the 1980 USA Olympic hockey team beat the Soviet Union for the gold medal. Finland was also a very strong team that year and we were not expected to win. It truley was a miracle on ice. There are so many memorable moments in sports, so what is the one that comes to your mind first? Maybe an undefeated season, a career ending injury, Tom (who is this kid) Brady taking over for Drew Bledsoe and leading the Patriots to the super bowl.

Hall pass - - InvestigatingKink, it looks like we have been in the LS (lifestyle) about the same time, less than a year. Everyone has different needs and weaknesses in their marriage, and I certainly don't judge what other people do, at least not ethically. We were at a party just last night and talking to several couples who have been in the LS for a lot of years. We were discussing this very subject. They all had stories of people who started playing separately and most of those couples are now divorced. Their belief is that it is often very difficult on marriages and definitely not for the majority of swingers. Now all of you hall pass and open marriage people, don't get freaky on me. This is just speculation on my part and opinion of those I talk to. There are many I'm sure it works great for. I believe the LS can be seriously hard on your marriage if you are not in prime shape. We ourselves have had struggles just doing what we do (as I think everyone has had at some point) so to add more uncertainty to the situation would be tough. Also, to us (again, not judging) this is about a journey we are taking together. I like to watch her interact with people and be flirted with and she enjoys the same. If we were not together it feels as if we have moved on to something different. But we are probably rare. Our name alone, SameRoomOnly, should give you and idea of our ideals. I know this is going to sound crazy, but we aren't in the LS just to fuck a bunch of people. We truly enjoy the fun people, making friends and experiencing new things together. An analogy could be made to travel. We both love to travel. But if we started taking separate vacations all of the time, it wouldn't be as enjoyable. Hawaii is wonderful if I am there alone, but if she is with me, it makes the experience so much better. I want her to share in my experiences. Last thing is that we communicate together, almost always. It isn't that we are jealous of what a person says to either on of us, but we like to know what is being said, as a team. It keeps us honest and open and prevents us from having to recap any conversations. We trust each other completely, but we also realize that anyone can mess up and by putting yourself in a situation that could potentiate cheating or dishonesty doesn't seem wise to us. I'm sure some of you will want to interject and say "well, you two must not trust each other. We never worry about things like that. We love each other too much." Maybe so. But our opinion is that when you start to spend alone time with another person, talking freely about whatever the subject may be and are fucking that person, well...it seems dangerous. It's just like when I am at work. If a girl flirts with me or gets too close, I make sure to tell my wife and keep her updated and I also try to distance myself from that person. Not that I plan on cheating, but we are all human and have weaknesses. And by always being honest and open it helps to keep our marriage strong. So, maybe the truth is that we are just not secure enough in our relationship to do something like hall passes or an open marriage, or maybe the truth is that everyone who tries it will fail miserably and end up divorced. It probably is somewhere in the middle of that spectrum, as most things are. Few things are black or white. But we wouldn't entertain the idea of a consistent hall pass. Maybe once, or twice, just to experience it, but an ongoing thing, no way. Good luck with whatever you decide. Mr. SameRoomOnly