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stop being so vanilla - - Most of our friends are in the lifestyle and those that are vanilla know about it. So when the vanilla men see an attractive girl, the suddenly return to infancy, drooling while hoping to see a glance of a boob and get to suck on it. Always pisses them off when they point out an attractive girl to me and I respond "ahh, I have better looking girlfriends then that." I have told them they are so vanilla and one guy thought it was a racial slur. Another told his brother what I say about being so vanilla and his brother told him it is a swingers term to refer to guys like you. After a bit of conversation the brothers learned the one I don`t know is in the lifestyle and the one I am friends with is very curious now.
asking your swinger friend if you can join them. - - [quote=EVILDOERS]"I am not in the lifestyle and don't think I ever really fully would be"
"K USSIR your not a swinger but you wanna have sex with you friends wife with your friend there? HMMMMMMM I smell a swinger in the making"
Naw, I smell a single guy who just wants to get laid. If you aren't really interested in swinging just leave it alone and get your jollies elsewhere. There are plenty of ways for you to get your rocks off in bars and clubs and on Craigslist. It's your VERY common SM attitude that makes it tough for the very few single guys who get it and really want to be part of the lifestyle. No wonder so many people constantly say that singles aren't really swingers. But don't worry. You aren't alone. We've met TONS of single dudes over the years who've admitted that they would NEVER allow their wife (if they ever got married) to fuck another man. Swinging is an attitude and a mindset. A guy who would let you fuck his wife is risking a lot and sharing with you the most important thing in his life. If you can't grasp that concept you should just stay home and jerk it to online porn.[/quote]
I had not thought about it like that. I guess I was thinking that if he would consider asking a "friend" to consider allowing him to have sex with his wife that he would at least consider letting his friend have sex with his wife too were he married. If he wouldn't then that makes him a bit unilateral in his approach and really his co-worker should recognize early on that they are being used for carnal considerations that fall somewhere in opposition with this fellows own code of ethics. If he means that he cannot see himself as a swinger as in he is not looking to find a mate that would be swing friendly, or feels he can attract or maybe even afford a mate that would be swing friendly or maybe even find a mate at all then that is a bit different. I am not ready to light the torches we like to light and carry as we chase away and banish a single male from our world just yet.
USSIR, If that be the case, that you want to bang his wife, but you would never allow yours to be banged, think again and treat your co-worker and his wife like a friend and an equal rather than a hedonistic opportunity to exploit. Asking him to allow you to do something that you are frankly apposed to and then doing it will most probably reduce your own self esteem as well and it should. If your intentions are respectful toward all parties involved then that is different.
Creating an Amazing Swingers Profile - How to market yourself better - Damn it, gotta go delete that pic of me spread wide. Sheesh, just tryin' to please all of the people all of the time and this is what it gets me! ;)
Ugly people and swinging - - A few years ago we met our first "swingers." They were in their 50's, overweight, and not attractive. We eventually met more of their friends who were equally overweight and not attractive. They were always trying to entice us to participate in their "swinging" activities. It seemed as if all these couples lost interest in each other and just wanted some other person besides their own partner to fuck. They were always looking to trade up and we were the outcasts for not participating. The overweight ugly people always hide behind "inner beauty" and "connection." Sorry, I don't get it. My girl doesn't get it even more than me.
I'm aware that ugly people need love too. It's great when two ugly couples can come together and eventually....come together. You know who you are. Or at least others know who you are.
Attraction is everything in this lifestyle. Standards vary not only from couple to couple but person to person. Think about it: It's absolutely amazing that you found someone that isn't completely disgusted by you and vice versa. The odds of finding another couple that BOTH of you are into are astronomical.
I think a lot of people in this lifestyle just "settle" for what's available, in turn lowering the collective standard. Don't be afraid to reject a couple if one of them is unattractive. Your partner will appreciate this.
Orchard Place - Event info - We are so excited to be able to bring the Orchard Place back to the lifestyle. We want to help provide a safe and sexy atmosphere for all our guests/friends. We are trying to help the Orchard Place evolve into the closest thing to Utah's funnest swingers club. We enjoyed all that attended the "Return" party and we are looking forward to the "Hot for Teacher / Sexy Librarian Party coming up in September. We hope that many, many sexy couples will learn about how unique our atmosphere is and come check it out for yourselves. We have made a few tweaks so that we can move forward in this process and everyone understands the changes and helps us take the Orchard Place to the next level for safe lifestyle fun!! WE APPRECIATE YOUR CONTINUED INPUT AND SUPPORT!
Playing with \"swingers\" vs \"nonswingers\" - - We prefer not to mix the two sides of our life up! That is, we keep to ourselves that we are swingers with everyone except other swingers. Isn\'t that what \"Discreet\" means? We have only had one couple approach us at a \"non-swinger\" social function and talk to us like we should be getting together with them - all while in front of our real-life friends. When this thoughtless couple left our table, the other 3 couples there asked what that was all about. We actually ignored the question and went right on enjoying our evening -- without any real trouble.
We always talk to each other in private when we are out at a night club and wonder between ourselves how this or that person might be in bed -- but we never act on those impulses. It is our belief that most people would be shocked, but not necessarily in awe about our swinging behavior. Therefore, we do not ask non-swingers to play with us.
Most of the other responses here are right on target. Those that do not have experience with swinging are not really prepared to handle the social/sexual interactions between 3 or 4 people -- hell, most swingers we know (including us) don\'t do a very good job of handling it!
There certainly seem to be alot of very hot swingers to choose from at this website, we wonder why you would have to go outside to find what you are looking for?
Married men, solo time - What do you think? - Swingers talk a lot about commitments and open relationships. However they are in a minority position when it comes to numbers. If you are married and want a divorce and your partner will not give you one, should you be forced to have her approval to swing? It is easy for us to say do this or do that. But some things are not easy to do. I spent 10 years being emotionally separated from my wife before my divorce. Due to certain circumstances, divorce was not even a consideration during that period of my life. But for me, sex with others was not a consideration either. However, I sure understand why some men would make it an option. We all have opinions and there are no easy answers and no right or wrong ones that are set in stone. There are only the ones that are right for you. It sounds to me that you have already made up your mind though.
Mormonmomtok - Tiktok mormon swingers - Man, I'll bet she is making a fortune with it and will keep going. I hate that attention and drama
Looking to establish a group of safe swingers - - Sounds like a lot of fun. I
met a couple on here a few years ago and we got together with others several times.
Like to at least meet and go from there.
Divorce rates - How do we compare - We are a bit of an older couple with a different prospective. Amoung our swinging friends and aquaintances if we were to generalize it is that they are on a second marriage, have been married for 10 years or so and are very happy. Amoung our non-swinging friends they are on their first second, or third marriage and are generally unhappy. I would put the divorce rate amoung the non-swingers at more than double that of the swingers over a 10 year period.
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