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Need A Change? Northern Utah - Business Start Up - Well you can tell we are in Utah. Even the swingers site has multi-level marketing ads.
Swinging versus poly/open - - [quote=HAOPENGYOU][quote=DELICIOUSLYWET]I guess someone could make a bunch of hats, and hold rallies and chant, make swinging wife swapping couples again. But that denotes women as property. Maybe change is good![/quote]
We'll get started. What color should the hats be?
We'll add the line, "And women are co-equal partners in any relationship that they choose to be a part of!"
These are going to have to be slightly larger-than-normal hats.[/quote]
Black rings say swingers, so black hats. But in this rally big handed men are a plus!
We have heard about it many times........... - Couples that are swingers - AMEN to that....alex
Permissive still requires permission. - Permissive still requires permission. - [quote=WildNomad]I could go on for days about the misogyny and objectification I have experienced in the swinger world. I'll try to be concise. Here's a quick guide on how to not be part of the problem at lifestyle events. (And when I say "you" below, I mean everyone)
1) Don't objectify women at every opportunity. If my tits are out, they are not out for you to stare at and make comments on every time you interact with me. They are certainly not out for everyone to touch without permission. They are out because I enjoy being naked. Even when I am naked I am still a strong feminist woman. I am not a toy for your to objectify. Treat me like a human.
2) Ask for what you want. Never presume. Do you want to hug, kiss, touch or fuck me? Ask. It's as simple as that. Here's an example. You: "Can I kiss you?" Me: "Hell yes" See? Easy.
3) If it's not a Hell Yes, it's a Fuck No. If all parties involved do not feel 100% Hell Yes! about the situation, it's a no. I see this a lot in one partner "taking one for the team". That is never ok.
There is more but if everyone would do those 3, swinger events would be vastly improved. [/quote]
Just because an actress or actor chooses (Hopefully it was their choice) to be nude on camera, and or act sexual, as in acting, does not mean they owe anyone anything, and they are not granting anyone permission to take sexual liberties with them.
Same can be said for nudity, or sexual behavior at a swingers event. Or on a web site for what it's worth. We suppose, that if we get naked and behave sexually, in a semi public venue, that we cannot completely control who might see us. Granting permission to view, through proximity, does not grant permission to touch, or take any other sexual liberties.
Swingers Party - Doesnt mean who ever is there is open to everyone elsa - Oh he was married and his wife was doing the same. I didnt see anybody elsa not letting them do what they wanted to do but My gal stopped him in his tracks and I was smiling from ear to ear. I didnt even think about lending him a elbow or whatever till the next day. Thats why I put this post up. I wondered if I should have put a gap in his teeth or if I did the right thing. I second guessed my self the following day. I guess if he didnt take her NO and he moved forward he woulod be wearing a black and blue sumthing but he backed off with his tail between his leg and I couldnt help but laugh at him. Thanks for the replys. And I wont go back to that swingers club no more even if I shouldnt blame the club. I rather stick with private cpl to cpl house parties anyway.
Which Motorcycle Survey? - In the market and want your opinion... - [quote=242]Oh, I have strong thoughts on this subject folks. And I am really doing my homework and shopping very thoroughly. I'm taking my time because I won't be buying until Feb/Mar at the earliest. And I've been watching the Can-Am develop over the past 3 years now. One of our nearby dealers carries them alongside Big Dog Choppers and Suzuki. Interesting line-up. It's not that what others think will make my decision or unduely influence it, but I am interested in reading others' opinions and thoughts to compare to my own. And I'm checking with a few different demographic groups. Let's face it: swingers tend to march to the beat of their own drum more than most folks! LOL I brought up the "cool factor" and image stuff in the context of what our own perceptions are of bike culture. I mentioned that we are cruiser types, not crotch-rocket people. I wear western style riding boots and a black leather jacket. But my jacket has armor inserts, all the modern upgrades, and even reflective piping on a traditional cruiser jacket frame. I wear a Bell military-style open face helmet and goggles. My wife rides a blacked out (Raven) 2011 Star Stryker. So we sort of blend the old w/the new a bit. I guess I'm hesitant about the style change. Thanks for the input and please keep it coming. You're helping me cogitate. LOL[/quote]
Cogitate?
I read somewhere that they've come up with a cure for that in the Netherlands.
The Lifestyle And You - Another Hilarious Video - [quote=JUST_RACH]lol I think I've stumbled across the greatest play list on youtube [/quote]
Most of these are from Couples Cruise (the company who does most of the Swingers Cruises). We were on one last November and this stuff was on the TV 24x7.... Another reason we will never go on another vanilla cruise.. ever. =)
Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - AKLIM,
It's just as "rude" for you not to click "ignore single males". If you expect them all to read your profile, you take the time to read your settings thoroughly enough to see that you can block them LOL!
raw statistics can be flawed. You show me stats that say today in LA, 1000 pitbulls attacked children and only 400 were committed by other various breeds. What does that tell you/me??? It says nothing of the circumstance. Were the animals mistreated and trained to attack??? How many pits are trained to fight???? Show me your stats. Stats can be skewed to fit the bias. Show me some.
In reality, the CDC lists 10 that are prone to bite:
Pit bulls
Rottweilers
German Shepherds
Huskies
Alaskan Malamutes
Doberman Pinschers
Chow Chows
Great Danes
St. Bernards
Akitas
Wow, all large breeds that are usually trained to fight, guard or attack.
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Just looking for other couples happy with super soft and no swap - There must be more of us out there? - [quote=TATERTOT1982]Im very glad Im in the vegas swingers scene and not utah anymore.....[/quote]
Interesting statement, we've often wondered about our perception that Utah lifestylers are a little more "odd", for lack of a better word??? Due to the heightened possibility of "social engineering" (AKA LDS).
As for doing it alone w/doors closed and no one watching in a club - we can understand that "thrill" level. I think the most important thing is that they dont lead people on to thinking there's going to be more before doing that. THAT would be rude, self centered and dis-respectful. I think this is the fine line where people get a little "ruffled" at the many levels of "comfort" in this lifestyle - its tough to get all turned on and revved up then shut out (usually what guys are used to getting from women - lol)...
Friend collectors or swingers - - I am a solid choice when looking for single males
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