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Something to consider - No means no online too. - [quote=DELICIOUSLYWET]1.) We have all heard, well most of us have heard that no means no in the lifestyle. Does that just refer to in the flesh potential physical contact or does it not also mean online approaches in the chat room or via emails?
2.) If someone will not easily accept no for an answer online when it comes to friend request or in pushing for a hook up will they be just as pushy in the flesh?
3.) If someone sends you a friend request over and over again and you give them the same reasonable reason why you do not want to accept it, and it is in your profile why you would not accept it, will you need to tell them no to anything and everything over and over again if you meet them in person?
4.) Is not understanding no at any level along the way a major reason why some swingers do not find it easy to hook up?
[/quote]Preach. I've no doubt they'd be pushier in person as they know social pressure makes it harder for you to abruptly walk away from them than it is for you to close a tab, so they have a better shot at making you comply.
Thank God for the block button indeed.
Christain Swingers? - - I have heard it on the internet though I have never heard a swinger that I have met personally say they are Christains. Maybe I am wrong in thinking this, but I do not believe that Christainity and swinging can mix. I just do not think it is possible. It seems morally impossible. I am no bible philosopher, but I know that there are things stated in the bible that do not point to swinging being accepted by God.
I don't know. That is why I am here. What are your opinions on it? Is it possible? Can you be a Christain and be a swinger? Enquiring minds want to know.
9/11/21 NCL cruise to Alaska - Any swingers cruising along with us. - Are there any swingers cruising to Alaska in this cruise. Cruise ends the 18th
Help With Wife - Wife has fantasies but is super hesitant to experiment. - Personally I think you might be a little too eager (can't blame you, we all were when we started) and pushing just a little too hard to make her fantasy a reality. Rather than trying to find a way to get around the "Catch 22" of her fantasy maybe just explore it more verbally and see if it evolves into some kind of scenario that she is comfortable with that more easily can happen in the real world.
The most successful swingers we know, ourselves included, arrived at where they are by being open and supportive of each other's fantasies and desires without forcing them in any way. In other words, be patient, explore your fantasies verbally and maybe role play, a LOT, with each other before you jump into anything that either of you isn't quite ready for.
You might be surprised as you fantasize openly and honestly how your fantasies might evolve and become something that you eventually can and will make a reality. You know your wife better than anyone and maybe she does need a little nudge but most of the swingers we've known over the years who've crashed and burned did so because one partner pushed the limits too fast and didn't wait for the more hesitant partner to catch up. In our case we were quite surprised and what our fantasies morphed into when we really dug deep and talked about the truly deviant (by local standards anyway-lol) aspects of our fantasies.
Sorry, I know that's probably not the kind of advice you were hoping for but it's been our observation over a rather lengthy swinging career. Another thought, if you're bound and determined to make your first swinging experience a MFM, is to find a guy who is okay with just watching you two play or maybe getting involved in some soft swinging...i.e. back rubs and or touching but no intercourse. We were soft swap for the first year or two of our swinging life and it was great fun and took the pressure off until we were ready to take the next step. Best of luck!
edit- Sorry about what now seems like a long rambling response. In my defense it was pre-coffee. [em]Emo_79[/em]
North Ogden Police - Need a fitness program - [quote=EVILDOERS]Dear EXPERIENCED_VIRGIN,
It has EVERYTHING to do with this website. Who are YOU to decide who DUSTY finds attractive? As far as I know it's not illegal to have sex with chubby cops as long as you identify yourself as a swinger first...and no donuts change hands. Now if you're in Hawaii it's (for the moment) still 100% legal for cops to have sex with hookers and/or single male swingers. They're considering a law to change that. The hooker part anyway. As to the OP's question. I would encourage your buddies in blue to maybe try CrossFit or Zumba depending on what kind of workout wear is flattering to their individual physiques. Also, you could encourage them to order from the "Favorites Under 400" menu. Most of the items are still deep fried (yeah, like donuts) but they're only 400 calories (if you leave off the cheese, the sauce, the buns, and eat like half of it). They also serve salads at McDonalds. Watch those high fat salad dressings though. Best to just pour a little of your Diet Coke on the lettuce. And DUSTY, you go ahead and love who you want, when you want. Out and proud! [em]Emo_80[/em] [/quote]
LOL I love this guy !! Good sport. Well I love cops :-)
Christain Swingers? - - I believe that a person can be both a good Christian and a swinger.
First you have to remember that anyone can use the Bible to prove any point. Many people do this by pointing to a single verse or even part of a verse. This in itself is wrong. You have to take the entire Book into account. Most of what is preached today has no reference in the bible or there are words from God forbidding it. The Bible teaches us not to worship idols but everywhere you look you see crosses and crufixes. The list goes on and on. Today's organized religion is based more on tradition than anything else.
The Ten Commandments do teach us to not commit adultry but here is where interpretation is important. The common synonym for adultery is infidelity as well as unfaithfulness or in colloquial speech, cheating. We always know what the other is doing so we are not commiting adultery.
Political Forum - POLL: Should we bring it into the rotation? - I think its quite cool that a rather large group of people find relatively common interests about sexual openness, sexual play, sexual fantasy etc... it's really cool that we share such an uncommon attitude about sex and yet we have such diverse opinions about Politics (and Religion) etc. Fascinating.
Years ago before I knew anything about or anyone involved in swinging I would have guessed that there would have been a more common social thread among swingers but as was mentioned before, its probably a pretty good cross section... So, it seems to me that if we are trying to connect at a fun playful sexual level the last thing we would want to do is find ways to disagree and reasons to disconnect from people by having a special "top five" forum category that is one of the 2 most divisive topics on the planet. It's tough enough to find couples that we connect with at enough levels to be play-friends.
So, I'd say, there are plenty of other places to fight about politics (or religion), we don't need it here and since you are asking for opinions here's mine: If you leave it in there will be some well thought out points made but it will be a source of argument, anger, and name calling... we've seen it before, just like anywhere else, people get ugly here too. If you take it out only a few will miss it. There are other places, plenty of them, to debate the un-win-able debates.
This is a play place, a fun safe place to escape the mundane and intolerant mainstreamers. We don't need to create ways to find intolerance and anger within this community too. I want to know how sexy and fun you are not what your politics are... (at least not till after breakfast in the morning! wink)
As my sweetie loves to say "Be excellent to each other and party on dudes!" :)
D
How to find other swingers - - MissyVern
I think I read that the wristbands glowed under black light? Please consider having single straight males wristbands say something like :
Remember, put her desires first
or nice guys finish first
or ask not what the couple can do for you, but what you can do for the couple
Just a thought. Why not groom single guys into what you'd like them to be?
Christain Swingers? - - We believe that being christian and being in the lifestyle go hand and hand the bible teaches to love everyone, be kind to everyone have you ever stopped to think that just maybe the reason you meet each and every person thoughtout life is not by accident?
We have found since being in the lifestyle that there have been some profound reasons we have met certain people in this lifestyle here is a quick version of a actual event.While we were in europe working for a contractor a cpl contacted us on a swing site they were from Virgina.
Once we met(M&S) they admitted that they never really thought we would meet face to face but after returning from europe we had to travel through Richmond Virgina and we figured what the hell lets look them up so we did and had one hell of a time with them now here is the "divine part".
Another cpl (B&S) we had met who contacted us while in Germany (they were traveling through europe) and we manged to meet play and have some fun guess where they are from? Yep you guessed it ,Richmond Virgina!
While spending time with the first cpl (M&S) we contacted the other cpl (B&S) they invited us to a party but said "our friends could not come along until they had met them first" so, we did not go to thier party but we did put these two cpls in contact with one another guess what they are now the best of friends and go to each others parties now!
Go figure, they found each others through us thousands of miles away yet when they met each others they found out they only lived a block away from each other and they both belonged to the very same prestigeous BDSM society! in the D.C. area!
We have many many facts that has happended since we have been in the lifestyle and to us we could not have planned that it had to be divine intervention! Does the lifestyle and christianity go hand and hand you bet and won't convince us otherwise we have had too many of those types of situations happen since we have been in the lifestyle. Some will say its the devil at work we beg to differ it all depends how you interpet what the teachings tell you and who is to say that the bible has not been manipulated since the days of christ?
Norm&Sharon
Having a Swingres day at lagoon - Swingers at lagoon - yea we would luv it would familys be welcome that way the kids can come and enjoy the day too
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