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Swinging and the Mormon Church - - [quote=BEARZYKINS][quote=PALS4FUN]I Love belonging to a Church where my publicly professed beliefs match my internal values. It just feels good. :)[/quote]
Wait, there's a swinger church?! ;) [/quote] Yes, the Church of Pals4Fun is now open, please cum worship at the alter! I think that you're just teasing but might be a tad serious in your comment so I wanted to reply although it's a very difficult topic and tough to articulate.
No, I don't know of any church-of-the-wild-and-crazy-swingers. But I DO enjoy belonging to a Church that does not issue broad sweeping edicts REQUIRING certain behaviour by people so as to assure that ya'll are exactly like me. I like differences. I like differing beliefs or opinions. I like the fact that I couldn't be excommunicated for being gay for example. I can not be tossed aside because I swing nor can I toss you aside because you swing or are bisexual.
So all I'm saying is that I enjoy belonging to a Church that outwardly espouses a view that agrees with mine -- I(we) don't have all the answers so I'm not going to condemn you for where you are in your journey of self-discovery and life. I'm going to join you, talk with you, and discuss things. Maybe I'M the one who'll end up changing and you're not "wrong" at all. (in whatever it is that you believe)
Sheez, see? I told ya I'd have trouble articulating it. Sorry to wander from the OP's initial topic on Mormonism. [em]Emo_8[/em]
New Friends - - Hello Fellow swingers....
I put this on here the other day but it seems to have disappeared.
We have a private KIK group and we have met some wonderful people. And we are looking for new friends to get to know. A little bit about our group we try and set up a meet and greet once a month. We also have some group members that throw house parties, and every once in a while we rent a house and have naughty house parties. We have done meet and greets of all types, from the bar to a day at the lake.
We are looking for friends from the ROY area to the PAYSON area. This is a couples chat only. And we also ask that you both have your own KIK account. If you are not a couple and you share an account then dont ask. We have set up a gateway room that you can find on KIK and its called utahseductivecouples.
We are looking forward to meeting new friends.
UTAHSEDUCTIVECOUPLES
Are you a Swinger or Liver? - - Sheesh.. first off- your newly coined term “liver” has a lot of problems.. first being it sounds like you’re talking about the body part… second.. things in life aren’t binary. The word AND is important.. you can be one thing AND another thing.. to try to act like “swingers” are somehow all easily placed in a passive aggressively titled box denoting they don’t know how to “live” is very logically, emotionally, philosophically false.
How to find other swingers - - Great idea...
what color would a straight single male wear?
Is anybody on this site for fucking real or just a bunch of tease - - Seems like if you're not dtf on first meet it's a no go.. plus since we're more poly then swingers we get ignored. Mostly have had fakes and flakes from this site... plus trying to chat with a single female is also a joke.. Seems like girls want girls, couples want girls and the girls open to guys are wanting horse hung gym rats or sugar daddies... it sucks.
hall passes - who all does it - Thanks Eros, as you agreed with me, our game has to improve. But just because we think we're enlightened and progressive because we're swingers, some of societies stereotypes still apply. Men are still men, and women are still women. In other words, pursuit is usually up to the male. Chauvinist as that may sound, it probably is more about genetics then anything else. How many species in the animal kingdom do you see, where the female aggressively looks for a male. It's almost always the reverse.
So men, work your ass off in the gym, pay the 30 bucks for that that PDF manual on how to improve your game. (kidding of course about the last suggestion). What you may find is that it improves your own relationship with the wife or girlfriend.
One thing I noticed, when I improve myself, it only enhances my own marriage and my other relationship. That's always a plus plus in my book!!!
Swingers unnerve families at hotel - - i new you would like that one lol
kristylynn
B_k_lovers - Getting over first-time jitters - ^^Most definitely
Honestly, a large part of the lifestyle (in our experience) is figuring out what you want and how to communicate that with other couples. Personally, I would not just strip unless I'm sure all 4+ people are on the same page.
They did a few seminars on this topic at Young Swingers Week in Jamaica last week. There were some good pointers there, such as using body language/touch (shoulder is casual, elbow is more interested, small of back is intimate) and gauging reactions. Or giving the other couple plenty of chances to say "yes" either through word or action by opening up opportunities to do so.
One of the things that we like to do as a couple is invite another couple (or single friend, or small group) over to play naughty board games. Turns out you can turn any game into a strip game if you're creative enough, and that's a good way to allow people to ease into whatever their comfort level is. Every gets as naked as they feel is comfortable, then you can start swapping "favors" or "truth or dare" style challenges or whatever instead of stripping once you're as naked as you want to be.
Wannabes and net fakes - Will the real lifestyle members please stand up - Well said!----We agree completely. We have another term to add to your list: cyber-swinger. It's a wanna-be that doesn't really have the balls to be in the lifestyle so they hide behind their computer screen. We try to sort them out very quickly. After an introduction email or two we talk on the phone and then offer to meet for drinks. If there's any reluctance---they're done. We have neither the time or energy to waste on cyber-swingers. Fortunately for us they have been the rare exception. We have been lucky enough to meet some wonderful people so far and are looking forward to meeting lots more! ;)
Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - Mmmmm...love it! Now I want to try DVP! DP was an amazing orgasm so I can only imagine what DVP would hold in store ;)
Kisses,
Naugh-Ty
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