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single males - - Thank you for opening the topic. I hope that it will be used shed some insight and not just complain. In a place like Habits there are vanilla singles that have no clue that swingers congregate there. So there will naturally be more problem in that environment than a private party. At a house party the only people that should be there are those that are invited by the host and hostess. Every one of the guests should have known the rules or etiquette of this lifestyle. If you had complaints, they should have been addressed last night with the hosts. Evidently the balance you were looking for was not there. Sadly it is difficult for most singles to figure out how to talk to a swinging couple. There are no schools or training centers to teach this. As a single male, conversation at a vanilla party with a couple is much easier. Most often the men and women separate and we talk with one or the other without expectations on either side. Sometimes conversation is just conversation. I find that making friends is generally more difficult in this lifestyle because of the sexual expectations of many. I think that you will find a number of the single men, after getting the cold shoulder from many husbands, find it easier to attempt to talk to the women because they lack the skills to talk with both. It is a mistake but it is also part of the learning process. There is no excuse for rude behavior on the part of the single male but neither is there an excuse for the typical married male attitude. Single males are always and have always been a pariah and dam few couples want them at any party. I came into this lifestyle as a single male looking to make male friends to hang with that would help me understand the rules. I found most of the males were cold and suspicious and difficult to talk with. I was not looking for women to play with nearly as much as I was looking for a girlfriend that was already in the lifestyle. But I am sure that as far as most were concerned all I wanted to find was their wife

Dating other Couples - Have you done it? - Been there, done that, have the t-shirt. We know plenty of people who've done it, and done it successfully (up to a point), ourselves included. We don't know of many, if any, where it has lasted for more than a few years and didn't end somewhat badly. It CAN be quite heady and has the potential to take swinging to the next level. Unfortunately, it is also exponentially more likely to crank up the drama factor to eleven (out of ten). Quite often each couple has their own "agenda" (for lack of a better term) that is often at odds with the other couple's agenda. We've seen it frequently cause weird jealousies not only between primary partners but also between non-primary partners and in a few extreme notable cases it has ended marriages. In our case, we were relatively long-term swingers at that point who, although never really super active in the scene, felt like we'd checked off most of the things on our swinging bucket list and were somewhat curious if there was more out there to explore in swingerdom...or if we were sort of done with the scene. The couple we started "dating" wasn't really the kind of couple we usually were attracted to and maybe that was part of the allure. They also had a very interesting (to say the least) dynamic in their marriage that really was at odds with that in our relationship. Ultimately they kept pushing boundaries (started throwing the "L" word around and much more), pushed for more and more separate activities and were insidious in slowly and subtly causing rifts, both large and small, as well as a LOT of drama. We actually didn't even realize how much drama and subterfuge had occurred until we were finally out of the situation entirely. We actually miss them a little, at times, and often wonder if there might have been a way to talk things out and come to a better understanding of how to continue on in a healthier way but they've actually gone on to do exactly the same thing to a number of other couples we know (it's a small world in Utah swinging and word gets around) and it seems to be their pattern. Tldr; It can work. It's quite rare when it works long term. It has the potential for disaster. While it's appealing in many ways we don't really recommend it. YMMV

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DALLAS - DALLAS - We are in Dallas frequently. Sign up for SDC. Most of the swingers in Dallas are on that site and you'll find lots of party information. Collette is a beautiful and classy swingers club with theme nights...check out their web site. 13th floor is a great set up but not as nice. Have fun!

CALLING ALL FOOTBALL FANATICS - - I am starting a fantasy league for swingers. This league is for the die hard fantasy football fan. There are some rules. 1. You must display your email address. So other owners may contact you about trades. 2. You must reply to all trade inquiries within 1-3 days. (whether to accept or decline). 3. You can only have one team in this league. 4. No lopsided trades will be allowed. (Meaning: If one owner is gaining way more than the other. The league will veto it. 5. If you are not a fanatic and will not follow your team please don't join this league. 6. If you do not agree with the any of the above rules, please don't join this league. All the rules will be implemented. These rules are in place for a fair and fun season. Again this is for the die hard fantasy football fan. You can find the league on yahoo. Here are the league settings: League ID#: 150145 League Name: Swingers Football League Password: takemywife Draft Type: Live Draft Draft Time: Sat Aug 21 9:45pm CDT Max Teams: 14 Scoring Type: Head-to-Head Start Scoring on: Week 1 Can't Cut List Provider: Yahoo! Sports Max Moves: No maximum Max Trades: No maximum Trade Reject Time: 2 Trade End Date: November 19, 2004 Trade Review: League Votes Waiver Time: 2 days Post Draft Players: Follow Waiver Rules Playoffs: Week 15, 16 and 17 (8 teams) Roster Positions: QB, WR, WR, WR, RB, RB, TE, WR/TE, K, DB, DB, DL, DL, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN Stat Categories: Passing Yards (30 yards per point) Passing Touchdowns = 6 Interceptions (-2) Rushing Yards (10 yards per point) Rushing Touchdowns = 6 Reception Yards (15 yards per point) Reception Touchdowns = 6 Return Touchdowns = 6 2-Point Conversions (2) Fumbles Lost (-2) Offensive Fumble Return TD = 6 Field Goals 0-19 Yards (3) Field Goals 20-29 Yards (3) Field Goals 30-39 Yards (3) Field Goals 40-49 Yards (4) Field Goals 50+ Yards (5) Point After Attempt Made (1) Tackle Solo (1.5) Tackle Assist (.5) Sack (3) Interception (4) Fumble Force (2) Fumble Recovery (2) Touchdown = 6 Safety (2) Pass Defended (1) Block Kick (2) Fractional Points: No Negative Points: Yes

Maybe we'll have to default to wearing those black rings. - - The porn ban/block/opt-in is incredibly infeasible. Look at Reddit for example, there are TONS and TONS of subreddits (communities in a sense) that have porn. (reddit.com/r/swingers, reddit.com/r/swingersGW, reddit.com/r/nsfw, reddit.com/r/straightgirlsplaying...) It would take a tremendous amount of manpower in the state of Utah (as the ISPs will not do this) to label websites as "porn". Most exclusively porn sites (tubegalore, pornhub) are likely already labeled that, but again the reddits and tumblrs of the internet would take forever to filter out. Now, about the opt-in list being held with the ISPs. They already know every single customer who looks at porn. Unless you use a good VPN, they are well aware of every website you visit. That being said, while they might not have a list of people that look at porn, it would be really easy for a hacker to, once they get into the ISP, gather information about everyone who looks at porn and share it with the world. If they couldn't get into the ISP, they could still get this information from porn websites. Unfortunately for the Utah government, this plan is just not possible and is basically just BS to get support for reelections...

FB group? - FB group - [quote=NASTY4U2]I'm sure there are more. I know of one as I am the creator of it. But It's for Utah swingers only. Someone you know may have created one. Ask, or make one yourself. [/quote] Would love an invite :)

Peta....are you a fan? - Their "State of the Union" message. - "If you do not wish to read or write in topics outside of the realm of swinging, then you shouldn't adventure in those areas. Just my two cents." Could not agree more, you will never see me writing in one of the "poke your fellow swinger's in the eye posts" And just for the record "Mr. TR" I've read some of your "rants" and probably agree 97.2 of everything you say "Politically". But my thinking is there's about 16 million places to "Get Political" on the Web..... Why choose a group which accounts for about 2-5 percent of the U.S. population (including YOU) to pick a fight? Why post in a "little pond" of a bunch of swingers?..

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hotel party advice - - I've never been to a hotel party for the purpose of meeting swingers/possible swinging. Has any one else been? We've been invited next weekend and I'd like to know what to expect. I'm already discussing it with the Mr since he seems to be a little more forward than I. (ahem) Of what *I* will and won't be doing, just in case. I hate going to these kinds of things sometimes because it almost always ends up being a waste of time and money. Then on the way home I'm mentally kicking myself for 1, the time I wasted, and 2, the money I wasted.

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