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Inconsiderate - Lack of consideration for others - Then perhaps you should edit your post, MAUI, to say that "the vast majority of people in the lifestyle THAT WE'VE ENCOUNTERED IN THE EXTREMELY SMALL GROUP OF SWINGERS ON MAUI are super shallow and don't give a crap about others". Maybe it's just Hawaiian people in general who are super shallow and don't give a crap about others. Or maybe just people on Maui. I'm really sorry your swinging experiences haven't met your expectations. And believe it or not I'm not trying to rip you a new one. I genuinely feel badly for you. Have you explored other options? Travel, obviously. How about other swing websites? Swingular is big here in Utah (it was started here) but there are few members almost everywhere else except Florida. And the part about Maui being family oriented...have ya HEARD about Utah? LOL A very wise swinging couple once told US that the way to be successful in swinging is to first get rid of you expectations (so you won't be disappointed) and then to approach each situation and couple looking FOR reasons to connect and play rather than looking for reasons not to. I'm not saying play with peeps you aren't attracted to or are not compatible with but far too often it seems swingers look for reasons WHY this or that couple isn't perfect and they end up being disappointed that they can't find anyone to play with. Try some different websites. Host some meet n greets. Hell, host a house party and invite people similar to yourselves. Just a few thoughts. Good luck.

KSL swing story - - The story was terribley produced. Little to no research. As I said in the thread leading up to KSL being at the Club 90 party, they decided what story they were going to write before they even put pen to paper, and they were not going to let the truth get in the way of their story. I particularily liked the way it played women to be victims in the Lifestyle, especially when everyone knows it is women that really run the show and have the biggest say-so in who a couple plays with. Also, in surveys of swingers when asked "Who's idea was it to start swinging?" 34% of the time it was the wife that first brought it up. Sure, men still accounted for 54% of the survey (the rest couldn't remember who's idea it was originally), but it's not the men wanting sex with other women and drawing their poor defenseless wife into the lurid underground world of wife swapping to do it. Hell, anyone who's been around it for a while knows it's more "husband swapping" anyway. :p I've been following the comments on KSL's website, and these people have no life. They wait to watch the news every night and then add their two cents to every subject. None of them have any idea what they are talking about. As Ozzie Guillen says about arm chair coaches and sportscasters "the farther you sit from the plate the smarter you think you are." LMAO But all the comments are along the same lines, the evil cheating husband luring his innocent, unsuspecting wife into the seedy underworld. Then you get the fake profile they put up and within "six days, 70 married men, most from Utah, ask to start a fling." LMAO Damn, how many couples get emails every day from "free member" married men looking to cheat? We get at least one a day. The same old story over and over: Married Mormon family man who says "I love my wife but she doesn't like sex". These people need to look within themselves. We're not the problem, they are. Plus, most of us won't play with cheaters and after a time we've become very adept at sniffing them out. My wife gets at least one married Mormon man a day sending her an IM on her personal Yahoo! Messenger ID, and they find her in the Yahoo! directory (not Yahoo! Personals, the directory). They just go through looking for women online to contact. They don't know she is a swinger. Her Yahoo! profile is innocent as can be. If they are going to cheat they will find a way, with or without swingers. Wow... I'd love to say this on KSL's site, but like fun4usxx said, it will just add fuel to the fire and you can't win. You can't fix stupid. Mr. Caress4u

Are swingers moral? - Who determines what morals are? - [quote=MILFOAOA]Give me a moral swinger over a cheating, lying, decieving spouse any day!!!!![/quote] well said there is something to be said about knowing instead of jumping to what if's

can we swing and still not be in sin ? - - Since I've been sucked into the swirling vortex of this thread, the only way I can feel like I haven't been robbed of the last 1/2 hr (give or take) of my life is to add my .02 Ok, I know I could just chalk it up to that which doesn't kill me only makes me stronger, but adding my input seems more satisfying. I'll start off by saying that if you are doing this much research regarding religions and what they allow or don't allow regarding sexual activity it has to make me wonder if you're seriously considering converting to another religion just to save yourself the guilt of sin brought upon by whatever religion you happen to be at the moment. All religions have been formed and molded over the years by people. People who are not perfect, who have their own agendas. A sense of right and wrong doesn't come solely from religion. Many religions would like you to think that in an attempt to keep you in their camp and they'll be more than happy to tell you what is right and wrong for the rest of your life (in case you can't think for yourself). But if you have to switch religions just so that you can sleep at night after a fun-filled evening of swinging, you have some other things to figure out. Or perhaps you should just start you're own religion, where you can make all the rules. In any case, I think its fairly safe to say that most religions believe quite strongly that those of us engaging in the swinging lifestyle are sinning by engaging in immoral activities, just cuz they don't use the actual word sin, doesn't mean anything. Its just more politically correct these days to say immoral. In any case though, they most certainly believe that we (swingers) will most definitely be going to a very special level of hell, a level reserved for... (sorry, narrowly avoided an obsure pop culture reference) As for me, yes I believe there is a God. And one of the few things that I think is accurately stated repeatedly in the bible is to love thy neighbor and I'm more than happy to spread the love around in whatever way/shape is available to me. -SG

New Swingers Club in Utah - Gauging interest in new club - I love the idea as an old widower of a nice comfortable place to meet and play.I have attended a few house play parties that were fun as well.

Swinging and LDS... - Are the two compatible? I know this is a huge can of worms... - [quote=BMSHELL]Always exciting to see non-mormons (or "former" mormons in here) attempting to teach everyone else about mormon doctrine... Because as everyone knows, if you want to learn more about a particular group of people, you should ask a different group of people who HATE that group... you're bound to get the truth that way, right? But seriously.. you guys are adorable. =) [/quote] Hating is usually a problem. Faith in the veracity of any religion's origin story, or the effectiveness of it's doctrine is only part of the story for people that choose to be in the flock, and probably less important to anyone participating as such, then the interpersonal experiences they have with the friends they make, and of course with their family. You can make anything sound ugly. Certainly people that hate swinging and swingers will not portray swinging as anything good. In the end the real question is perhaps as simple as whether or not you are happy and compatible with someone for who they are, in all their complexities, rather than are you compatible with their religion. We have made it clear we don't believe in Mormonism to our friends and family but we have also made it clear we still love all of our friends and family that believe and participate in the LDS Church at whatever level they choose, and the same sentiment goes toward all the rest of our family and friends that belong to whatever religion they embrace or lack thereof. We will always want to enjoy their company, so long as they afford us and hopefully everyone else the same respect and freedom to be true to our own understanding and desires, without fear of malice.

Christain Swingers? - - We had a great house party one weekend and one of the couples, very good friends, got up early, showered and got dressed. They kissed everyone good-bye that had stayed the night and explained they had to get to church because they were

Who is going to Younge swingers week HEDO? - anyone going? - [quote=SEXYCPLNWYO]Oh but you look so young and sexy!!! [/quote] Its all about how you feel! Yep, left the apostrophy off because too lazy to put it in!!!!

Any Swingers out there? Golf swingers that is... - - less see... weve rented bars, amusement parks, forests... why not a golf course for a day? are you listening party orginizers?

Swinger & 🦄 Bait - An experiment to attract swingers and unicorns. - Hahahaha I love it. One cart for some bait and one for groceries should get plenty of attention.