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Playing Alone - - Couples all have different rules. Many categorically refuse to play alone with ANYONE ever. This is their "security" place. They feel comfortable in the place where they can see each other and "protect" if necessary. It takes some people a long time to get passed this.
It's kind of a 'control' thing leftover from the vanilla life. I'm not saying it's bad, good or indifferent it's just the way it is. Some people take longer to get passed their histories as vanillas than others. As they progress and get more comfortable with themselves, the lifestyle, their partners then they will slowly open up and begin to trust a bit more.
Don't take it personally, that's the key. Many people still hang on to their vanilla background that their partners are their most 'valued' possession. I liken it to my $450 deep sea fishing reel. Sure I'll loan it to someone to use if I'm on the boat with them and can make sure they're taking care of it. Is there anyone I'd just let 'borrow' it out right for the day or weekend? Not a chance in hell.
It takes time to let go of that 'she's/he's mine' get feeling. I think my wife and I took almost 6 years before we got there successfully. We tried many times before that but it never worked out well for either of us. We finally came to a point where it's okay to play separately everything from next room to next state it no longer bothers us. I personally prefer within 30 - 50 miles so she get's home faster for the "after play" sex you're describing (which I really like too.)
You'll have to find a VERY secure, VERY established, VERY strong couple to fulfill your fantasy. They are out there, my wife and I for example but even though we're open to playing separately are we open to YOU playing with her or me separately? That's a different level of trust. Does it mean no? No. It means "maybe" in time it's a possibility. (I'm speaking hypothetically of course.)
Don't worry your "couple" or "person" will come along. You might also try investigating a subsection of the lifestyle called "hotwifeing" while I know few swingers who are hardcore into only hotwifing, there are quite a few that tip toe in that part of the lifestyle (quick def, she plays he doesn't except with her.) That's the post play joy for you and the play and post play joy for her. Most people just bounce between that and swinging. There are people out there just be patient and don't expect it from any current playmates that you have established rules with, they need to progress at their own speed.
Swinging with Vanillas - Any success stories? - well first off we were all Vanilla at one time.
We were the other couple being introduced to swing by good friends. We knew they were swingers, not because they told us but someone else "outed" them. it was just sexy flirting and a slow build, Not "hey we are swingers lets fuck".
our suggestion, because they are friends take it slow, put it out there and read how they take it. if they are good friends either way they will still be friends.
As for those looking for the Unicorns we have had better luck with Vanillas than we have in the lifestyle.
How Old Is Old - - Since we know the OP very well, I can tell you they are a really fun couple that are VERY lively and never give the lifestyle a bad name. I would answer B&L's question with ( when you find yourself just sitting on the sidelines with no play left. As long as I have known both of you I would guess TOO OLD is in about another 25-30 years..... Maybe we will not be playing with the 26 year olds anymore, but I can tell you I will fill my cock with cement before I am done!!!!!
PS. Don't forget to send your dues for the OLD SWINGERS HOME!! ;)
how much do you tip the pizza person? - this should be good!!! - :z great topic for a swingers site!
we love japan, no tipping allowed!
but in other circumstances, 3 bucks as we are a small family
Looking for Swinger friendly hotels in Brevard Co. Fl - - Here are all of te sites that I could fit together from all over FL... Hope this helps.
Name: AMORE SWINGERS CLUB
Address: P.O. Box 2283
City, State: Ormond Beach, FL
Distance: 449 miles
Phone: 386-255-1600
Email: [email protected]
Contact: Petra & Joe
Website: Not Listed
Description: PARTIES EVERY WEDNESDAY-FRIDAY & SATURDAY 7.00PM-3.00AM, FOR INVITED COUPLES & SELECT SINGLES.
Name: The Lifestyle Ranch
Address: 16571 SE 49St Rd
City, State: Ocklawaha, FL
Distance: 472 miles
Phone: 352-625-8918
Email: [email protected]
Contact: N/A
Website: http://www.angelfire.com/fl4/lifestylera...
Description: 8 acre secluded Private ranch catering to lifestyle couples and single ladies! We are Free and intrested in friends and friendship only!
Name: CharlieWoods
Address: Just off I-4
City, State: Orange City, FL
Distance: 474 miles
Phone: (386) 775-2372
Email: N/A
Contact: Charlie and Carolyn
Website: Not Listed
Description: On-premise for couples and singles. We have 6 acres to party on with dance floor, hot tub, pool and private playrooms.
Name: Club Relate
Address: PO Box 574584
City, State: Orlando, FL
Distance: 500 miles
Phone: 407-678-2540
Email: [email protected]
Contact: Tom & Lynda
Website: http://www.clubrelate.net
Description: A masturbation swing club for couples and singles of both sexes, meeting on Saturdays. Twelve years of operation
Name: RANCH 4 PLAY
Address: Call
City, State: Orlando, FL
Distance: 502 miles
Phone: (352) 483-1988
Email: [email protected]
Contact: N/A
Website: http://ranch4play.com/
Description: RANCH 4 PLAY is situated on a 5 acre site in a peaceful, wooded site 30 minutes from Orlando Florida. As a guest of RANCH 4 PLAY, you will have access to the cleanest on-premise, private, swingers party in all of central Florida.
Name: J.D. & Sandra's
Address: P.O. Box 720249
City, State: Orlando, FL
Distance: 509 miles
Phone: 866-738-3950
Email: [email protected]
Contact: J.D. & Sandra
Website: http://www.jdnsandras.com
Description: On premise club for couples and select singles every Saturday.
Name: Florida Social
Address: *
City, State: Fort Walton Beach, FL
Distance: 516 miles
Phone: *
Email: [email protected]
Contact: Steve and Mandy
Website: http://www.floridasocial.com
Description: Premiere off-premise adult swingers club.
We strive to provide adult couples in the swinging lifestyle a fun safe place to meet and get to know other like minded adult couples.
Our socials are always exciting and we can't wait to meet you!
Rating:
(10=Best 1=Worst) 12 Ratings Clean Atmos. Cost Summary
Website Avg. 7 7 6 7
You may only rate clubs within 350 miles of you.
Name: The Partyhouse
Address: 14051 Old Dade City Road
City, State: Kathleen, FL
Distance: 531 miles
Phone: 863-853-7750
Email: [email protected]
Contact: Anne
Website: http://www.centralflpartyhouse.com
Description: We party in a private home, with ample parking and privacy for couples and single males and females. We have monthly special events The parties are on friday and saturday evenings
Name: The Bottom Line
Address: 3090 Evans Avenue
City, State: Fort Myers, FL
Distance: 637 miles
Phone: 239-337-7292
Email: n/a
Contact: John
Website: http://www.clubtbl.com
Description: Club that meets every Friday night.
Name: Deenies Hideaway
Address: 5011 W. Hillsboro Blvd.
City, State: Pompano Beach, FL
Distance: 650 miles
Phone: 954-428-3336
Email: [email protected]
Contact: Deenie
Website: http://deenieshideaway.com
Description: Luxurious private on premise swingers retreat for over 20 years. We are open 365 days a year. We have gourmet buffet, volleyball, a pool talbe, indoor hot tub, swimming pool and cozy playrooms.
Name: Club Hedonism
Address: 1000 east sample road
City, State: Pompano Beach, FL
Distance: 651 miles
Phone: 954-783-4741
Email: [email protected]
Contact: N/A
Website: http://clubhedonism.com/
Description: South Florida's finest on premise club. wed -sat 8pm till 4am couples only sat. huge dance floor private rooms group rooms.Upscale and affordable
Name: Club 3299
Address: n/a
City, State: Pompano Beach, FL
Distance: 651 miles
Phone: 954-815-3299
Email: [email protected]
Contact: Jeff
Website: n/a
Description: Social club for those in the lifestyle.
Name: Club Chic
Address: 525 East Sample Road
City, State: Pompano, FL
Distance: 654 miles
Phone: 954-781-8884
Email: [email protected]
Contact: n/a
Website: http://www.clubchic.com/
Description: Off premise club with DJ, buffet, BYOB. Open Saturdays
Name: Trapeze
Address: 3660 W. Commercial Blvd
City, State: Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Distance: 658 miles
Phone: 954-730-8121
Email: [email protected]
Contact: Alan or Dennis
Website: http://www.trapezeclub.com
Description: On premise club open Wed-Sun 8pm-5am. We offer a buffet. BYOB
Name: Platos Repeat
Address: 321 West Sunrise Blvd
City, State: Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Distance: 658 miles
Phone: 954-523-9818
Email: [email protected]
Contact: n/a
Website: http://www.platos-repeat.com/
Description: Private on premise swing club open Wed-Sun. We have a four star buffet, made to oder breakfast on weekends, DJ and alcohol is BYOB.
Rating:
Name: Anakosha
Address: 2338 Immokalee Road #146
City, State: Naples, FL
Distance: 665 miles
Phone: 941-436-2014
Email: [email protected]
Contact: n/a
Website: http://www.anakosha.org/
Description: Couples only parties for the purposes of education and exploration of human sexuality and love in the context of marriage and alternative relationships. Membership required.
The Wickedly Delicious Device Update - Whats been happening from Silk - We'll lets see everytime someone puts up a post your makeing an add for your self, since this is a swingers site and you are trying to entice cpls to come to you or you to them, isnt that the same thing? Yea I kinda think so......So what if they threw up a small post to put their product up on the market, no different than the pic of a women walking away from the cam showing a little ass..............Your adverticeing your product (and NO am not calling you a whore).
To each is their own!
~Peace~
Dave
"Not interested" replies - - It is more common than one thinks... Not responding to a note/email/whatever one wants to call the message one sends from a site to the site... It\'s a bloody shame that people are so rude.. As for the kiss thing...I think people see a profile and want to show it to their SO so they earmark it with a kiss or add people to their friends list. It\'s the only tool one has to tag the couple and easily get back to that profile.. Sometimes people forget how to uses all the tools and then after a day or two they forget who you were and how to find you then another time they are looking and say Oh theres a nice couple lets send a kiss or add them to our friends list.....After a dozen sites similar I think that people may also be a bit shy too.. What do I day to Mary and Phill, he\'s a doctor and has a TV show and I thought he didn\'t like swingers.... I think I\'ll just call and save money on my car insurance ...I\'ll call Gieco... Just a thought... but people spend money to get on a site and can\'t write a note.. They may do fine face to face but to write a note ...... No way....My theory... What\'s yours? A subject for Lenord Nemoy\'s show \"Unsolved Mysteries\".... Which stretches from the inner mind to the outer extremedies.... you have entered the swinger zone.....
closed doors? - - Just an idea. Try a few more pics on your profile even pg rated but a few more, Get out to an open swingers party meet others socialy do not expect sex and maybe that hot cpl will fall into your lap LOL :)
just our two cents
Rock Hill or Close by!!!!!!!!! - Whats Up(2 Questions) - We are right outside of Columbia and we reviewed you profile. We found your pics to show you 2 to be an attractive couple and from that we would love to hook up with you, but the rest of your profile is why we haven't contacted you. We are non smokers and look for the same, we also enjoy full swap and enjoy the erotisism of kissing and that is a no go in your profile. We don't consider ourselves major swingers, we enjoy making friends first, enjoy full swap, like others to be shaved, respect my wife to the fullest, no cumming in her mouth, are the main rules we have. They are our preferences and you have yours. We agree there are alot of wanna bees and BS artists on all the sites, but with time you will find a few super cpls that you will become friends with and alot more. But remember you have rules and things that are turn offs to others just like us and well, as we always say "No wine will be served before its time".
swingers helper... - I know some of us need this every now and again... - How is this?
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