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Why are people afraid to give out their email address - - Ohhh...I forgot to mention: How very timely things can be sometimes....just recently, on another website (for swingers), I had given a new contact our email address. I did this at his request (a single male), so he could send pictures. He did... ...what he sent was an email that - I really could only guess why - was forwarded not less than 16 times. Apparently, our new found friend has been very busy. Now, I'm sure you've all seen the emails where the subject line is FWD:FWD:FWD:RE: (etc, etc...) I've never realized anyone could be thoughtless enough to simply forward an email with pics to us, when the same email has been forwarded to 16 other people. And it's all right there, "in the clear" so to speak, in his email. Now, think about this: Here's a guy who is telling us he's sincerely interested in her, how he's only interested in making friends and not the typical wham-bam kinda thing. Funny, he seems to cover a lotta ground for someone so sincere. All in the past week or so, I might add. It gets better: at some point...I don't know, maybe he's got two machines and was bouncing pics between them, or whatever...he's also unwittingly included a different email address for himself (which, by the way, told us right away he's not been honest about his name). He's put his own, 'real' email address in there as well! But that's not the part that really relates to the subject of this thread. What does relate is the issue of emails, making rounds you can't even imagine, because of one careless person. I made the mistake of trusting this person - and imagine my horror when I saw how careful he was with the other 16 people's info in there...what if some were completely unaware he was doing that? I bet they are! And now, HE'S GOT OUR EMAIL ADDRESS!!! How many of his emails to others will have our address in it? Ever hear of 'social engineering'? Well, if you haven't, do some research. This is how talented computer people can take a little shred of info about you from here, and a little from there, and next thing you know, your private affairs aren't so private. Sure, we're only talking about swinging sites, right? But, didn't someone above mention work email? Tell me no one ever got the two mixed up - or that no one ever forwarded your email - the one you sent in total confidence - to their work address, intentionally or unwittingly!! Of the 16 email addresses right there in his email, 13 were Yahoo email addresses...now, it's a hop, skip and jump over to their profiles - and now I know even more about the people our friend listed in his email. Interesting to see who all he's been in touch with. Ohhh, by the way? Two of them were crossdressers, says so right there in their Yahoo profiles. What if that somehow found its way to where someone worked? I'll tell you what, I know how these people - the 'social engineers' - go about finding out all sorts of stuff. It so happens I'm not into messing with people like that, or I could have a field day with this stuff. I'm not interested in it, but what if I were? Someone who was a real low-life could start contacting these people, saying things like "I know you've been in touch with X"...or they try to play a confidence game, by dropping names picked up from various sources: "Hey Jimmy told me you're..." after seeing an email from "James" so-and-so. There are countless variations, but these people are relentless - and they're not stupid! Think it doesn't happen? Think again. Every word of what I say above is absolutely true. May not sound like much until you consider all the possible ways it could be exploited. And it happened, just about the time I took interest in this thread. So, I hope this little story helps illustrate my point. I hope it helps answer the original question; *This* is why people are reluctant to give out email addresses. And, maybe they damn well should be.

Honesty? Really? - Posers/Liars - Oh my...SUCH paranoia! Does not everyone wish to advertise themselves in the best and most attractive way possible (at least MOST)? Is it truly THAT hard to give the benefit of the doubt? Personally, my experience has been that NOT everyone is out to lie, or even malicisouly mislead others who may peruse their profiles. Seriously people, it's not some grand conspiracy against those who may consider themselves "above par" from the common swinger-folk. Even those that might come across as being the most critical of others, and who consider themselves the "creme de la creme" of the Swinging community, are not immune to even the smallest of imperfections. It is unfortunate that many that are the quickest to point out "flaws" in others...would seemingly have plenty of "flaws" themselves, in the eyes of onlookers of course (beauty/non-beauty will always remain in the eye of the beholder). NOBODY is without these so-called "flaws". Here are just a few examples of what I have personally witnessed being balked at AND often possessed by those that balk, during the course of my journey in swinging.... -Stretchmarks (gained perhaps through puberty, pregnancy, breast-feeding, working out, weight gain, etc.) -Moles -Asymmetrical bodies (so-called perfect symmetry does NOT occur naturally, not even surgically is it possible) -Skin blemishes -Errant hairs growing unknown on unseen parts of the body -Birthmarks -Skin discolorations -Premature aging of the hands and neck areas -Unsightly cuticles and/or nailbeds -Man-hands (on women) -Feminine hands (on men) -Hobbitesque feet -Cankles -Crooked smiles -Yellow teeth -Green teeth -Unattractive gums (gingivitis) -Crooked teeth -Unsightly gaps in the teeth -Psoriasis -Eczema -Dimples (yes...in perhaps all four cheeks) -Cottage cheese (yes...virtually everyone manifests this when sitting, squatting etc. to some extent, perhaps unknown the them. Sorry, it's just the nature of fat; even the leanest of people have a thin layer of fat that can pucker in the right position) -Inverted nipples -Crow's feet -Spider veins -Varicosities -Breasts that have lost the battle with gravity -Poor breast augmentation -Beer bellies -Love handles -Double chins -Halitosis -Funky body chemistry manifesting as an unpleasant odor -Smegma -Dandruff -Obesity -Over weight -Under weight -Too many bony prominences Ok...I think that's fairly comprehensive and you get my point. Obviously, Swingular is not going to put a categorized "yes/no" checklist as comprehensive as this...even though the most discriminate of Swingers may expect it. There are many different ways to be unique AND "attractive" (and of course "unattractive" as well). Basic Psychology might suggest that the way that we view others, whether we find beauty or ugliness, is simply a reflection of how we feel and what we view ourselves to be, and of course, speaks clearly to our relationship with ourselves. Honesty is a completely subjective phenomenon, and those that share honestly about themselves may be viewed as being dishonest by those who are expecting or fearing to be mislead. Please don't think for a moment that I am pointing out what I either like or dislike; many of these I actually adore and find quite charming. Personally, I think it's the uniqueness of everyone's body and body habituses that add to the overall attraction and uniqueness of every individual. Finally, please don't consider this a personal attack on the originators of this thread, or any of those who have shared their personal tastes in partners thus far. All are entitled to their opinions. Peace.... ~J

Where are you Playing July 4th weekend? - Share your favorite places. - Up at the property in Pinedale with family. It would be better with a bunch of swingers but Pinedale is great

Swinging and Polyamory - How big a role does polyamory play in swinging? - As with swingers who some like to do just watching, full-swamp, partial swap etc. In poly there are many different types of flavors and way's in which to have full filling relationships. We are complex beings and therefore it makes sense that one form of something won't work for someone else. We have been in the swinging community for over five years and in different states. We typically stop swinging when something is up in our marriage because even though we have an open marriage we are smart enough to realize when there is something going on to close our relationship back up for a time. to work on US. We have had many good friends we cared about. We hard about Poly and thought we found a couple we could open ourselves to not just sexually but emotionally. It was a wonderful experience. We lived in the same house for a year. Her and I got along well and my hubby and he got along great too. We cared for and loved them. It didn't take away from our love nor did it dimish it. We all slept in a big puppy pile on the bed and learned to live together. The thing that stopped the relationship was they where both younger then us and where not 100% they wanted to even be open forever. We also realize we didn't want what is called a V relationship or W in our case. Where the married couple are together and the both have a BF and GF. But no connection between the men or the women sexually or emotionally. We realized we need a true triad to be happy. We now have that with two males and one female. We all love one another, care for one another, and are sexual with one another. We are family. It takes LOTS of communication. It also takes being considerate of everyone in the household. We open our triad to play experiences. Because we love to still explore our sexuality with others. However; our hearts for a lack of a better word are with one another. Love comes in all flavors and we enjoy them all. Is it easy? no. I don't know how long it will last but we know we won't regret loving someone as deeply as we do and getting to experience things with them. If anyone has questions about swinging or poly please email me. We float threw both worlds and I am just happy we can all have this conversation on alternative lifestyles.

Vanilla friends / lifestyle - revealing our lifestyle to longtime friends -

T4REAL69, The Don

There will always be those that are quick to pass judgement on others. We choose not to bother ourselves with people like that. We are no ashamed of who we are, nor are we scared of any of our friends or family finding out. As you can tell by my actions on these forums, I (Don), do not live my likes based upon what others think of me. I could give a fuck less. The people I love and live for already know, love and accept me. I say why bother wasting your time with people that suffer from delusions of being holier than thou. They can fuck off. I see it as a "need to know" situation. If our friends are indeed in the "need to know", we tell them. If we see potential in involving them, we bring them along to a party. If they have an issue and try and force their morals, we cut our losses. What's cool is now nearly all of our friends are swingers or swinger friendly. So it's really no longer an issue. Think about this. If a person... your "friend" were to say, "Swinging isn't right". Could you not just say, "What makes it wrong?" After all, you are not forcing them to do it. It maybe wrong for them. How is that wrong for you? It doesn't involve them at all. If they are so concerned with what you do in the bedroom, perhaps they are not basing the friendship on the things that really matter. They are not true friends.

-Don- "Ich habe einen kleinen Vogel in meinem Kopf."

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Swinging as solo Male part of a couple? - - This sucks and is good at the same time. I definitely understand the couples only thing, we were like that for a while and I have to admit I got real turned on watching the husband and my wife and also knowing that he is watching his wife and I. And it also assured me that they were real swingers. I guess it is one of those lifestyle lessons. The part that sucks is that this time it is honestly a legit situation but too many cheaters and drama queens of the past have jaded most of us, including myself, in many ways

coffee shops??? - - Sunset Coffee used to have local swingers and poly people meet there most every week. There was often a bunch of young, non pushy, non literal, non denominational Christians there as well. We actually took part in a few really open and friendly conversations because the tables are close enough we could hear each others conversations. http://www.mysunsetcoffee.com/ is the link. Not sure who meets there these days. Coffee is pretty good too.

Swingers of Color - - I don't think there's been any recent studies, this one is 7-8 years old but it's still probably close. The typical swinger was 39 years old, had two years of college education, had been married 1.5 times, was in a current marriage lasting 10.5 years, and had been involved in swinging for 5 years. They were predominately white at 90.4 percent of the sample. African-American's were 4.1 percent of those sampled, Hispanic's were 3.0 percent, and 1.5 percent indicated "other".

what do guys think of when they masterbate? - - I have to admit that the thought of my wife being fucked by another man is sometimes he topic of maserbatory fantasy. More often it's fantasy of both of us with either another couple or another single female. Sometime the fantasies are of people we haven't met, fictional characters, or swingers we've been with. I think the most erotic are fantasies of vanila singles or couples we'd like to hook up with. When I was younger I sometimes masterbated to fantasies of fucking the Bishop's wife, who was a complete and total hottie. Mr. Sexperimentors

Couple looking for wifeswapping, swinging, lifestyling and or org - - My wife and I would like to fuck some people and/or have sex with them. We are experienced swingers but haven't had sexual intercourse with anyone else for a long long time. In fact, our swinger hymens have almost assuredly grown back and our genitalia is as tight and unused as that of a first semester freshman BYU coed (full disclaimer-there also may or may not be cobwebs present from disuse). If you like Pina Coladas and gettin' lost in the rain...if you're not into STD's and you have half a brain please HUU. Alternatively we would like to orgybang a bunch of hot nasty slutty people. Costumes and/or real personalities are optional. We're not looking for one night stands. We're looking for 1 hour (maybe 30 minutes) stands. We are dead ringers for Dennis Quaid and Meg Ryan (if both of them went on a 3 month bender of drugs, alcohol and Fight Club-esque beatings). We don't expect you to be Ken and Barbie but we want you to at least be Skipper and Todd or maybe Chuckie and a Cabbage Patch Kid. If you don't know any of these references you're WAY too young for us and you should go fuck some really hot Beliebers while discussing the pros and cons of Call of Duty WWII. No offense. We don't Kick or Instachat or Snapgram or Twit. In fact our cell phones only hold half a dozen contacts each, voice dial is spotty, and our virtual/digital assistant is Ask Jeeves' alcoholic second cousin from Plumpton, East Sussex, Nigel. So you'll have to contact us through email, smoke signals, or Miss Cleo. We prefer Miss Cleo. NO SNAIL MAIL! We're not old, irrelevant geezers! Check out our profile and pics and if you don't experience severe projectile vomiting we might just be your next right swipe (No idea what that means but it sounded edgy and hip and not entirely 100% desperate). THE (accept no substitutes) Evildoers

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