Clayton Swingers in Indiana

Rob,

Very good move. Most popular public forums on the web have moderators that keep it above the belt. I am a "levels of force" kinda person. I usually keep it in the "smack talk" region until someone pulls out the big guns and says something that totally insults me, my service to the country, my way of life etc. Then I think it's fair to defend myself. I was never one to tolerate bullies Forum moderation is a good think as long as you are not dinged on everything you say. If done in moderation itself, I think it's key in a happy community. After all, not all of us will agree all of the time. Any good community has a police system in place. Some of us do not hold themselves to a moral believe system (dogma). What it "proper etiquette" to some, may not be to others. We are a culturally & sexually diverse, multi-faceted, large gamut of unique individuals. Each of us even differ from our spouses/significant others (if that applies). Can you you say you never argue with your spouse? Can you say you have never said anything brash to anyone? Were you apologetic to those you did not like? I think most reasonable individuals would say yes to most of those and no to the last one. What is more likely, is that they chose to avoid contact with that person. Everyone here has a choice to involve themselves in the conversations that happen here. For instance, if you were to post in a "GAY MARRIAGE" thread and post your opinion as to why an adult of clear mind and total consent, should not be allowed to enter into legal marriage with another adult of any sex, they so chose because of your own personal moral system. You are then adamant about holding to you view no matter how many time you are told that there is a seperation of church and state and that the "sanctity of marriage, between a man and a woman" is that of religious code and does not apply to the legal system, as it is unconstitutional. Yet you still wish to force your law on the rest of society because your upbringing told you that homosexuality is wrong and that marriage is not meant for gays. If this applies to you, then you are not reasonable and the only way I wish to deal with unreasonable people is to tell them to fuck off. I am saying you don't have the right to avoid homosexual marriage for youself? NO! I am saying you don't have the right to choose for others. I guess what I am saying is that many of you don't want to hear anyone say anything that differs from your own little world, yet you are swingers. Many of you think one -way and don't want to hear something that turns your belief system on it's head. If you can not respect or tolerate diversity I have no respect for you. I will not respect your beliefs, rights or opinions if you will not afford everyone else the same. YOU REAP WHAT YOU SEW. I vow, from hence forth, to do my best to be civil to everyone here. I expect the same from all of you. I can play nice with you, if you play nice with me. Remember, if you disrespect me, I will definetly return the courtesy :-) Thanks Rob. Thank you for proving that forum moderation can be a good thing.

-Don- "Ich habe einen kleinen Vogel in meinem Kopf."

To whom it may concern,

I think we swingers have no right to make moral judgments. After all, we are not following what the majority of our society deems morally sound. I do not agree with cheating either, but who am I to judge. All of you may not agree with me. I'll bet my life that many of your families, friends, employers and churches would not agree with your lifestyle choices. Who are we to judge? Think of it this way. It's a given that many of you partake in the marijuana plant. This is a violation of criminal and moral law. Yet many many people here proudly boasted this fact in the D&D forum. So much so, that they mistook my posts as anti-marijuana, when I said that I didn't want it around me because of my occupation (military). I highly doubt that if Rob were to post a link to a Caf

'No pressure!' or 'Boundaries respected!' - What does the opposite look like? - [quote=EVILDOERS]"...isn't it a given that one won't assault another person or attempt to do so?" One would hope. Unfortunately the lifestyle has become so adulterated (pun intended) by just about anyone who thinks it's a free, easy way to get NSA sex that you now have a virtual cornucopia of people who don't really "get it". What I guess I'm trying to say is that it seems like it's no longer wife swapping or swinging. It's now "the lifestyle" and apparently includes every manner of sexual libertine imaginable including those who view swingers (and yes I mean mostly females) as wanton sluts who are borderline nymphomaniacs that lack the capacity or will to say (or mean) "No.". It would be very interesting to poll women who have been in the lifestyle for a considerable amount of time, say ten, fifteen or twenty years, and ask them if they're ever had to more or less fight a guy off or worse, or if they've ever entertained unwanted advances so as to not rock the boat or harsh the vibe at a swing party. Sadly I'd be willing to bet the number would be fairly high. [em]Emo_8[/em] [/quote] We don't mind the alternative people, or the poly people, or people with a different sort of fetish. We actually enjoy all that sort of diversity. We like the nymphomaniacs (Really, we do, ladies, really, really) and the dudes with over the top sex drive. Takes one to know one. We can deal with all sorts of people different than we are, and people looking for different things, or people looking for the same things sexually, so long as they understand that the same sorts of bad behaviors that cause people to fail at sex, and at relationships, in the vanilla world don't work with most swingers and certainly not with us. Yes the online world, seems to allow a lot of losers to lurk around the community. We just had a dude KiK chat us and the second thing had to say was he wanted to "choke Mrs. Delicious on his dick." What would that guy be like in the flesh?