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Single Men Meeting Couples - Are Single Men Treated Un Fairly In The Lifestyle - ______________________________________________________________________________
** "Swinging" is just a different word for "swapping" and you can't swap if you bring nothing to the table. **
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NOT. Swinging is absolutely NOT about simply swapping. DON JUAN was absoltely correct. The women are NOT commodities to be traded amongst the men in the clubs and at the parties, but many of you devalue yourselves by assuming that submissive role.
Swinging is about choice. Thats is why the term "lifestyle" was coined in the early 80's; it's a way of life. If a single man is not to be considered a "real" swinger, then single women should not be considered "real" swingers either. What more does a single woman have to bring to the table than a single man? Do you think that these women do not represent the same set of issues that the men do?
The clubs, the parties, the events...these activities are driven by the WOMEN who particpate. The clubs will allow single women in for next to nothing for a couple of good reasons. The first of which is obvios; without a room full of hot women dressed in almost nothing, you would have a room full of nt so hot men, all standing around waiting for the woen to arrive. It would be like a middle school dance. Or a gay club full of str8 men. The second reason is even more simple. They attract MEN who spend MONEY. Single MEN and married MEN alike. The lifestyle is financed by MEN.
MEN who are willing to pay TOP dollar for the chance to meet with couples in the club. And let's face it, the guys who can afford to go on a regular basis are really the ones (if you are interested in single men anyway) that you would want to meet with, unlike a towel shark from the local adult arcade.
MEN who accompany their wives to the club to meet with other couples for the evening. These married men often spend (on average) $200 to $300 in a single night.
WOMEN are the EYE CANDY that keeps the party going. MEN do not want to go to a party that is full of other MEN, but they want to see EYE CANDY. So they are willing to pay to do it.
Mrs. Luvbugs! is a bartender, and a good one at that. She makes more part time than most degreed professionals (including me! humph!) do working full time. Why? She is very attractive. She is outgoing. She knows her stuff. She understands that SEX SELLS, and that her clients are there to see HER as much as drink a jack and coke. I have seen men sit at her bar, stare at her all night, run up a $100 tab, and leave her $30. Thats average...do that 20 to 30 times a night and what do you get? All for the privelege of being served by HER. I wouldnt do it, even if I were single. But then, I dont have to either, so who knows? THEY constitute the LION SHARE of her business, and her livelyhood.
The lifestyle is not different. We need these guys at the clubs. We need them to pay for memberships on our websites. They too are the oil that lubes the machine.
Sorry, but thats how it is.
Luvbugs! (mR.)
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Swinger & 🦄 Bait - An experiment to attract swingers and unicorns. - That’s our Harmon’s. We have had encounters with swingers there. And I will tell you, it’s ALWAYS awkward. People tend to freak the fuck out when you try to mix sex and groceries.
Here’s my advice. Have a very community neutral back story on deck for how you know them. For example, “Hey remember I met you at the parade or golf course.” Less effective is, “Have we had sex?” “And if so, was it any good?”
Or in M’s case, “ remember when I tried to write “ya-boom” on your butt with a green marker at a party once?” 😉
Translating Personals/Swingers Ads - - Now it all makes sense why some things have turned out as they have...... thanks bra.....
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Poly-Swingers - Moving beyond FWB relationship - Lucky you... wish we could have that again.
BTW, the Zebra Lounge is NOT even close to a poly relationship and the outcome could happen to ANY lifestyle couple!
Single male in this lifestyle.. - I have questions for couples and single females. - At the risk of restating for the millionth time...
Cold hard truth time, JOSH. Single guys in the lifestyle are a dime a dozen (that's a really old fashioned way of saying there are a LOT of you). And believe it or not you all claim you're super spiffy dudes (you're not...not all of you anyway). If you all WERE super duper All American boy-next-door stud muffins you'd have girls falling all over you and we wouldn't be having this (single male) conversation for the bazillionth time.
So let's do the math. There are a LOT of single guys in the lifestyle (despite some who would argue that singles aren't really swingers). There are fewer couples in the lifestyle and even fewer single ladies (again despite that 'swingles aren't swingers' argument). So even factoring in the fact that ALL swinger females are insatiable minxes who have sex almost continuously there just isn't enough time in the day for them to get around to fucking each and every single guy. Sorry, man.
My advice to you, and you aren't gonna like it, is to take all those amazing qualities you possess and find a hottie of your own that you can go out into the wild world of swingdom and share with other people. Swinging really is a couple centric activity. There's a reason it used to be called "wife swapping" and people wearing like disco clothes and gold chains and stuff used to go to key parties. Can you imagine the chaos that would have ensued if a bunch of single guys threw their keys in the bowel at a key party?
ps- If you'd rather not find a woman to swing with and prefer to keep your single male status my advice to you would be to grow a very thick skin, become more patient than a Buddhist monk and never ever ever come across as desperate or WORSE pissy that you don't feel like you're getting your fair share of hot swinger tail.
Swingers dying out? - Is the utah swinger community dying or becoming to needy? - We are not much into the big extravaganzas. We prefer a more casual setting. We just get so busy that we do not try and set up play dates very often anymore but when we do we have found that there are a lot of people willing to meet with us and then when we meet they actually want to play with us. We all have fun and say we should do this more often and we all mean it but we just get busy and weeks go by and we end up not having sexual play dates as often as we used to.
In essence we become inactive or semi in active swingers. We all know we could and should visit a few couples once a month but we just get slothful and procrastinate.
RV Swingers? - - [quote=REDROCKCOUPLE]Well, shortly the wife and I will be buying a new RV and traveling full time for a few years. Is there anyone from the lifestyle that are full timers? We are pretty excited to get out and travel some and meet new peeps.[/quote]hey swing pun intended by our place
swingin - thought this site was a swingers site - You have to love the forums. They truly bring out the 'best' in people. What better way to know what lives below the superficial covering we put forth in our profiles. Keep it up ;)
Children's Book 🤣 - Tim and Kate are Swingers - Just went on amazon and found the set available :D!
https://www.amazon.com/Reach-Around-Books-Season-One-Collectors/dp/1946178055/ref=sr_1_1?adgrpid=1337006711850982&hvadid=83562991723720&hvbmt=bp&hvdev=c&hvlocint=190&hvlocphy=80155&hvnetw=o&hvqmt=p&hvtargid=kwd-83563283253286%3Aloc-190&hydadcr=15937_10815777&keywords=reach+around+books&qid=1658342369&sr=8-1
Polyamory - Any thoughts on an exclusive 3 or more partner relationship? - This is like kissing to me.... Don't love anyone you have sex with except your SO... Well I am in a poly relationship with a married woman. Her husband is not poly and my wife is not poly. The 4 of us are good friends and both my wife and her husband know that the relationship is not platonic, far from it. They do not swing but we met at a swingers social. They were looking into the lifestyle but did not decide to go that way... We started talking on the internet.. they live a little less than 30 miles away. She and I had discovered that we loved each other from the several meetings and talking and I stopped by one afternoon, sat down and told her husband how I felt and she told him also. Understand we both understand that it is a secondary relationship and neither of us wants to leave our respective mates... We have discussed what ifs like; What if something happens to one of our mates? What if one of our mates starts to have problems with our relationship? We try to discreetly meet when we are each free and our mates are not around... This to alleviate any stress to our primary relationships... We do get together and eat and watch TV, play games, dance...Everything is open above board and consensual.
Many people who are coming into the lifestyle, over the age of 40 and empty nesters have things in their profiles like; "looking for one or two couples for fun both in and out of the bedroom. Would like to find a couple or two to play with on a regular basis..." The implication is that they want a relationship that is closed...i.e., safe, secure and on a regular basis... To me that looks suspiciously like poly relationships. B and I need to find a place in MT but it's much much too unpopulated there, too cold and could get lonely....besides B likes her job/s.. Wears so many hats it isn't funny. All in all we do get to get out and go to parties/socials almost every weekend, if we want. Something to be said for populated areas even if super people live so far away...
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