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How Old Is Old - - hey blueeyes, from our perspective at least, we think you are probably right and probably wrong at the same time!!! . . . you are right about being in the minority relative to the kind words offered by most in this post, but we really believe you are also part of the vast majority of swingers who use age as a primary basis for discrimination . . . kind of a strong opinion we suppose, except that we can see at least 4 different ways anyone can pretty easily check for age discrimination providing some basis for that opinion . . . BUT, before we go into all of that, please understand that we realize that everyone is entitled to discriminate in any way they see fit . . . in fact, discrimination is not just ok, it is absolutely necessary!!! . . . you see, no one has enough time to sample from every cup (sigh!!!), so everyone has to establish discriminating criteria . . . and, for sure, we're NOT feelin' sorry for ourselves; we realize it's just part of the deal . . . there is one more thing to mention before listing ways to check for age discrimination: we think there is a pretty easy and logical answer for the OP . . . those tired of reading already, can skip to the bottom and get that opinion . . . however, we kinda hope peeps continue reading 'cause, sooner or later, age is an issue everyone will face . . . so, how does one check for age discrimination??? . . . try this: pick any population center (like slc) . . . open a bunch of profiles in that population from different age groups (say, 30's, 40's, 50's, and beyond) . . . record the number of times each profile was "recently viewed" (ya know, that little statistic conveniently provided by swingular) . . . then, simply compare the numbers for the different age groups . . . if your sample is big enough, you will see profile interest decreases with age . . . if you don't want to do the math, just talk with folks of all ages and ask them what they see . . . i know many (most???) complain like crazy about email (but somehow, everyone seems ok with tweeting, texting, facebooking, etc - - - hmmm???) . . . and, shit, there is always face-to-face (omg!!!) . . . so anywho, find an acceptable way to communicate, just ask, and keep track of what people say . . . we've done that to some extent, without any surprises . . . (although this method takes a bit more time, it has the added benefit of allowing you to connect with others) . . . another way to look for age discrimination centers on visiting other swing sites . . . we won't mention those competitors, 'cause we don't want to upset swingular management . . . but, hey, most all of us know where to look anyhow . . . in our experience, virtually all other sites list age preferences inside each profile . . . so, open a bunch of 'em and note age preferences . . . if your sample is big enough, you will see that there is almost no interest in those beyond 55 . . . it's almost like a cliff, and that somehow, sex, sensuality, desirability, etc, have an expiration date . . . we would like to think that it really depends on the individuals involved . . . and finally, there is an acid test: simply stick around the lifestyle . . . sooner or later, you will have a personal verification of the age discrimination issue . . . btw, we hope you do stick around, and we hope you have a great time doing it . . . so, how old is too old??? . . . we simply believe you are too old when finding suitable partners becomes too hard . . . what is "too hard" and who is "suitable" will vary for everyone, so the chronological marker for every swinger will be a bit different . . . but, the bottom line is the same: you are too old when this business gets too hard . . . btw, we certainly hope our time doesn't come too soon!!! . . . cheers!!! . . .

A Place In The Lifestyle - - Well, It sounds more like a Utah club. We do not have swinger clubs here. Unless the club wishes to work at keeping people that are not in the lifestyle out, you may have to find another way to determine the swinging couples. Maybe the swinger wrist bands are a good idea at that club to identify others in the lifestyle. It would take some work on your part talking with those you may already know are in the lifestyle. You may not wish to wear them other places but it would solve a lot of problems for you in the club. Now the other question of who belongs is very difficult to answer. A lot of swingers do not swing very often or with very many others. So I see little difference between meeting one lifestyle or the other. As long as you are comfortable with your lifestyle, and asking another person if they are in the lifestyle, I do not see how you can lose. In Utah the chances are always slim that anyone will say yes straight away if they do not already know you. I would say that since it is a swinger club you have a greater chance than we do here at finding people in the lifestyle and you might even find some converts.

Is anybody on this site for fucking real or just a bunch of tease - - [quote=Nitrohawk1]I have come down to the conclusion that single males here are not really wanted, 90% of the couples are looking for for unicorns which to me seems pretty biased. Not to mention the couples I have talked to flaked and others just treat me like crap. If I have sent anyone near me a friend request and you didn't want it just ignore it like I normally send in a message.[/quote] Single males are very wanted here, in the right circles. But they should only EVER be reaching out when someone is posting up looking for that. Any other time will come off as pushy or entitled. Yes, a very high percentage of swingers in Utah joined swingular with the unicorn in mind. Over time through meeting and parties they find some amazing couple friends and do move into swapping once in a while. That’s their niche, not sure how you view it as biased. Utah has always been very suppressed with bi-sexuality and the ladies have gotten to a point in their lives they want to explore that. Your profile is NOT a single guy, it’s guy with a pass. For us personally that is the lowest on our list we would ever look for. It raises so many questions - does she really allow it? If so why? Is it so bad she would rather you go out and play? What is she doing while your out prowling? Not judging you, but this is what most think looking at the profile. You need to search out parties and meets single guys are allowed to hit and start meeting people in person. If your honest playing won’t be an issue. There is a huge learning curve from deciding to swing and actually playing. Using swingular as a dating medium to meet other couples is the most frustrating thing I’ve ever done. Some tips, make sure you both have K!k and make sure they do too. Let the wives setup the meeting. Beware anyone sending friends requests blindly. Beware people sending friends requests that have no private picts. With the feet draggers that always have something planned, just move on. If they are honestly just busy they will message when they have time.

Meeting new swingers? - Where to meet them? - i have met people on yahoo, msn, SLS, SDC ..AFF ...hmmm and TAMMI from here woohooo most ppl i met at the mall ... few others invited me directly to thier house. ..Once i got lost and called her on cellphone and she guided me to the front door ...

Swingers dying out? - Is the utah swinger community dying or becoming to needy? - seems like if your not ken and barbi couples want the whole dating thing :( only met 2 couples now that we were ok with ... most wanted to much or were to fukered up No name mentioning. One was abusive to his wife forcing her to this alll.. That one alone took us a year to try again... one single girl and a couple didnt get out inside jokes... Jike brat = britt HS nickname or shes gonna get it = shes in for a good fucking to make her scream for more... or couple just finished to early and left a few of us still going trying to ignore sideline conversations... hence seperate rooms now lol ... or someone that finishes so fast they get all wierd on completion and end it... Our angle its all innuendo and pleasing eachother as a couple others are there for us as learning and to keep our own grass green and fertilized not ever looking at the other lawns...

The definition of cheating - - Interesting discussion. Certainly from a relationship standpoint the classic definition of cheating is being with someone other than your partner physically and/or emotionally. As swingers, however, we often hold ourselves above others and fall back on the lying and/or sneaking around aspect. Personally I feel that being dishonest with the person you hold most dear in this life to be the essence of cheating for me. When information is withheld you take away that person's prerogative to choose whether or not to stay in the relationship with you based on your actions outside of the relationship. There are a million ways people rationalize cheating. I find that a person's attitude towards cheating is a very good litmus test for the depth of their character. Now should we talk about cheating on a test or cheating other people out of their hard earned money? How about cheating on your taxes or at a poker game with friends? At what point DOES cheating become morally reprehensible or should it be "all's fair in love and war" and "every man (or woman) for himself"? Or as SIRNEWBY asserts, is self deception/lying/cheating really the only valid metric? Or did I misunderstand your point, SN? It would be interesting to get feedback from people (I'm sure there are plenty) who've been cheated on.

Age - New to the swingers community - is age a factor in how a couple is viewed? - We have played withcouples from the early 20's and up...we have never cared about age.. Its always been attitude and how long we get along ..you know personality etc. We have a big differance in age ourselves 15 years... just has never mattered...now if someone will hand me my cane..I'm off to have fun.. Lar

Swingers Kickball Society - - I haven't played since grade school. Sounds like fun. count us in.

Game ON....which sign is Hornier...(is that a word?) - zodiac signs of swingers? - Uncle Pervy is a Gemini Pervette is a Capricorn

Mon chalet - Swingers motel - Yeah lots of couples playing and r There was like 8 people in the hot tub theres 2 so lots of room pool was ok temp too