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Question - do you talk about other swingers? - Never mention names! One thing we've found over the years is that people who swing, particularly those who belong to clubs, have too much to say about other people. I don't want to hear about it.. The people who are typically being trashed may be friends and we may have had different experiences with them. Best thing is simply the illustrated comments about what your version of swinging is. Descretion means or should mean what happens with others stays there and is not discussed. People may mesh differently with others and your experience or theirs is irrelevant. So MUM's the word. Ray

The let down. - - Well POET_RAYL maybe the reason you have problems is most of your pics are from 2001! And you had one from 2006. You have been on here since 2005 and in 6 years no comments. Makes you think huh? And on your profile you demand couple have a pic on thier public profile. Ever thought maybe some people didn't want to post thier face pics for the world to see? We have jobs and don't want just lookers seeing our pics. If your swingers like us that's one thing I can't speak for everyone but we just didn't want anyone to see our faces on a swingers site. Anyone thats been on this site for more then 2 years without a comment gives us a red flag. As for answering the question why do so many couples flake? It's because with most couples it's just the man posting and his wife has no clue he is posting her pics.

Swinging with Vanillas - Any success stories? - Most of our hookups and extended relationships have been with people that don't classify themselves as swingers or any other alternative group.

AZ Clubs - - [quote=JADEANDJAY]Not sure if it's still there, but when we used to live there we used to frequent Club Chameleon or Guys and Dolls.[/quote] Both have been gone for several years now. Chameleon was one of the best in the US. I have had some spectacular times there. The owners opened a diner on the east side of the valley after their club got closed down. Even though some of the old club regulars show up there, it never turned into a pick up joint. Somehow, Discretions & Encounters both survived in Phoenix. They are both much more low brow. I think that I know who put the screws to Chameleon, but I'm not 100% sure, so I'm not going to name names. The person that I think it was, got thrown out for being too drunk & rowdy, then went on a rampage in revenge. He was a hot rod builder with a lot of attitude. The last words that I remember from him were "you mess with the bull, you get the horns". There are a few bars in town that host meet & greets for local Yahoo groups, but the crowds there tend to be a bit cliquish. There is a low key party in Havisu that is very good, but it's hard to find & hard to get an invite. Havisu in general is a good place to pick up party girls if you have a boat on the lake. Tucson has an upscale nudist resort that attracts a small amount of low key swingers. Tucson also has a honkey tonk Drink-em-up bar that is run by "god" & boasts a well equipped side room for people who are feeling frisky. Just ask "god" for the "full tour" & you will get an eyefull. West of Phoenix, there are some mud baths & hot springs that occasionally see some playful action. A little north of the city, near round valley, there are some hiking areas with swimming holes that sometimes attract frisky individuals. If you are looking for kink in Phoenix, try APEX. If you want better odds at a good swinging experience, hop a quick flight over to Vegas. It's not that far. California has even better options, but it's a bit more of a ride.

Swingers Kickball Society - - Thanks for the interest if you want to join group chat on kik send a message over and will get you added. nicehikeguy

Swinger Friendly Businesses - Business or services friendly to swingers - I do garage door work, installs and repairs. I am also a licensed gunsmith, hit me up.

seniors - why is it so difficult to find senior swingers or single ladies? - wow,what fire i started. what letter set off the comments? i was serious about the topic. one person was right when they said what goes around will come around and usually kick your cute little butt. thanks

Those damn single men! - Where do they fit in this lifestyle? - I always seem to bring up the dead topics because I don't forum check every day, just when I can't sleep... I get asked a lot where single men fit in swinging, since we openly invite them into our play time and I loved TequilaRose's response. Thank you for putting the perfect words down for me. And I quote so all can read them again, as I find them truly important to understand: "...singles can be swingers. swinging is not a "couple" only thing. Swinger or Libertine means that you are not bound by moral restraint when you engage in sex. In other words, you don't need to honor the "holy matrimonial sanctity" of a married couple, whether you are in the married couple or wishing to engage in sex with them. So I still contend that a swinger can not be pigeon holed as a swapping couple only. " Swapping is partner exchange, swinging is open minded people be they male, female, straight, gay, or bi, married or single. The original poster wanted to know good advice for the single male to be picked out of the see of choices, and here are my criteria, which btw are things I say long before I arrange to sleep with them. 1. Never approach me (in person or email) and just say "wanna fuck" It's never funny, and always gets you a no thanks. If you like my profile, say something, don't just "someone likes you" It makes you look like a picture hunter and I'll delete it without even looking at you. 2. Listen to and adhear to my personal 'rules' which are: you are not my new best friend. I don't want daily text messages or phone calls. If I was looking for phone sex, I'd call my hubby at work. I prefer the 'you free thursday at 11am?' messages. If we pick a time, stick to it. You only get one chance. You stand me up, you're history. Hubby will always know where I am and with who and will hear all the kinky details. Nothing is secret or behind his back. Hotels are on your dime, not mine. If you don't have a suitable bachelor pad for our afternoon delights, I'm gonna think you're married and lied to me Afternoons I might be able to fit you in, nights and weekends I spend with hubby. When looking to play alone with a single guy, I will never pick time with you over time I could be with him. Don't even ask. 3. NO CHEATERS, ever. If I find out you're married and lied to me, I warn you up front, I will be the girl that calls her up and tells her. Might even have pics to prove it.... watch out, I bite. 4. Stick to the girls/couples rules, it's respectful, and everyones are going to be different. The above mentioned almost sound mean, but it's just upfront. The men I've met are more than happy to adhere to my rules of conduct. I have had only good experiences from the single men I've met on this site. Not all ended up regulars, but no experience was 'negative'. The only really bad swing experience we had was when we first started swinging over 8 years ago, and it was with the male half of a couple. Didn't scare us away from other couples, we just learned from it and moved on. The bashing is stupid and as soon as someone opens their mouth and lashes out at someone else opinions they drop massive IQ points in my book. Too sad..... Do what makes you happy and ignore the rest. Enjoy "that you are not bound by moral restraint when you engage in sex" :) Mrs Curious

Why swingers are happier. - - [quote=DWILDSIDE]Damn - I have seen some great screaming smiles - and I know it makes me happier :-D [/quote] It is not a question of phun sex. It is a question of swingers having phunner sex. In other words: Does swinger sex make us happier than non-swinger sex?

Single Male Market - Need feedback on a feature idea. - Unicorns, are just that, unicorns. Couples play is fucking fantastic, when there is something approaching equal shared chemistry, involving everyone involved. So for a lot couples, couples hookups, and or friendships with benefits are kind of a priority, at least when they first start to investigate the lifestyle. So a couples agrees to purchase a membership, establish a profile, see what's out there, and, not long after they get started they get approached by some goof ball single males. If perchance they either start a forum discussion about what's happening, or begin to read a forum post, someone already started on single males, there will be some measure of negative expressions about single males. Goof balls will be goof balls. In our experience it's pretty easy to brush off a goof ball. Not all of the single men on this site are goof balls. The question is often posed, if a guy is worthwhile, why is he single? That question is a perfect fit for the goof balls. There are men however, (women too), that may not be interested in marriage, or that are charming enough they can find sex partners, and therefore can be patient and get married once they have found the right person. If a guy is charming, wants to be sexually active, but wants to avoid sex evolving into a what does this all mean, dance around commitment, and he discovers that some swingers, occasionally want to meet with just such a guy, mostly just so he can get all entwined in passions hot embrace, deep inside the hot wife, and some of these wives are very, very hot; well, he might throw his lot in and establish a profile. We have had a lot of fun with these sorts of select single men. Comments attached to a single males profile are already a rating system. If a guy gets glowing reviews from couples that you know are real, then that says something. Traits found in select single men: Confident not cocky. Patient not pushy. Charming. Interested and interesting.