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Swingers dying out? - Is the utah swinger community dying or becoming to needy? - We have met plenty of people here and had lots of fun, There is a very big cross section of UT here, from the young and fit to the older larger folks like us and every combo in between.
If you put forth the effort you will find like minded folks to play with.
TJ.
Doctors and the lifestyle - Informing your doctor you are a swinger - Yes we do. It is part of being a responsible adult living an adult non monogamous lifestyle. We feel it is part of the reason we have remained sexually healthy, as sexually active swingers. Physicians need to know as much about you as possible in order to provide you with optimal care and optimal care requires the right testing and analysis. We try and make sure testing is as inclusive as possible. That includes testing for HPV and yes that is not a particularly pleasant test. We have never had a physician act shocked or disgusted.
Age - New to the swingers community - is age a factor in how a couple is viewed? - WE agree with stich...we are 30 and 26.. but our age range is 21-45. She enjoys older guys, but we have played with all ages. Yes there is a point where if someone could be your parent is too old. But we generally try and stay with in that range.
Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - Oh yes, DP is awesome. Still have yet to try the DV but am looking forward to the oppertunity. Kittycat27...very sexy..:-)
Swingers now officially a high risk group for STDs and STIs - Do your own research - Whew, thanks for the warning, SUGAR. My aunt came up to me at grandpa's viewing tonight and tried to kiss me. Had to fuckin' punch her to get her to back the fuck off. No way I'm jeopardizing my D&DF status just because grandpa died. Who knows where her skanky mouth has been. Also thanks for the bubble idea. What material should I use?
Other Swinger sites in Utah - Anyone tell us of other sites? - if someone were to make a new swingers site for Utah, what functionalities would you want in it ?
STD/STI Testing - - Actually it was closer to 1981 When HIV became aware to the medical community in the US if that is what you meant by that 1989 date. http://www.avert.org/aids-history-america.htm
HIV and HSV are the two nasties that should be of most concern for most swingers as they are incurable and HIV can be deadly. Both are costly in terms of lifelong medications but also in quality of life. They will be with you FOREVER!
HSV can pass by something as simple as a kiss and or oral.
Do clean test results mean something? YEs and No! Mathematically speaking the risk is related to a pyramid factorial equation. Meaning, for each new partner you have that is untested you are basically adding in the risk of not just that one person (Primary) but all the persons they have been with (secondary) and all the partners that those secondary people have been with etc etc.. HIV has been know to take up to 6 months of lag time from exposure to when it shows up on a test but 90 days is normally considered the standard waiting period. So any primary partner you play with who has been with someone in the past 90 days before they were tested still could have given HIV to you.
Granted HIV is rare. But HSV is not!
HSV cant take 2-3 weeks to show up on test results.
70-80% of the population will test pos for HSV as there are many folks who have the mouth cold sore HSV 1. To keep it simple sometimes in the testing HSV 1 really shows up as HSV2.. SO sometimes this means if you do test positive for HSV 2 it is really only HSV1. This is one reason Planned Parenthood will try to talk you out of this 160$ test
One more thing to add. Most people still think as long as they dont have an open HSV 2 genital herpes outbreak they are good to go. This has been found to not be true. There is a relatively new phenomenon recognized in the scientific community called Viral shedding.
http://herpes-coldsores.com/viral_shedding.htm
Another worry that is rare but possible and I know of a recent case where a person gave someone Oral herpes HSV1 to the genital area of another person.
There is also Chlamydia that everyone almost laughs off because a single dose of meds will cure it! The sad thing is if you got CHLAM you could have got HSV or HIV also as they run together. TO explain this if your had a partner that gave you Chlamydia they could have just as eaisly have given you some other things.
SO what is the safest thing to do. No play with anyone other than your main partner.
But if that is not what you wish then:
The safest thing would be for both Prospective couples to stay monogamous for 90 days and then get tested.
This is all true to the best of my studies but anyone please feel free to correct me.
Just looking for other couples happy with super soft and no swap - There must be more of us out there? - UNICORN_CHASERS
"real" swingers? posts like this is the kind that will drive others that aren't as "hardcore" away from the lifestyle forever! Look up swinging..Google, Yahoo..whatever..and read as many definitions as you can find..there are many facets to the lifestyle, not just yours. And just because something isnt "fun" to You doesnt mean it might not be fun to someone else. Maybe the idea of full swap isnt fun to this couple that posted this topic, ever thought of that?
Unicorn
I think u should read the 4 other pages of this post !!!! I said to each there own .... We tried soft swap wasnt for us and full swap isnt for them !!!! Who cares ...... 90% of the couples in swinging wont make it anyways this rips relationships apart .... In 3 years we have seen tons of couples get divorces from the lifestyle ..... But the soft swappers shouldnt say full swap is bad either till they have tried it !!!! Just sayin
Badboy8p
How to hotwife? - My wife wants to become a hotwife - [quote=DELICIOUSLYWET]There is a small Salt Lake City centric Hot Wife Play Group in the group section of this site.
https://swingular.com/groups.php?_a=view&_GID=436
We have not used the group to sponsor meet and greets, but some members have had success making connections and hooking up. We would not be opposed to holding meet and greets, but the two of us really don’t have the time to make those arrangements. It’s a relatively small group. There are some great couples and some great guys involved. The group's description is as follows:
"This is a group specific to Hot Wife Play in and around Salt Lake City. You either have to live in or near Salt Lake City or be a frequent visitor.
[b][u]Single men must have a recommendation from a member couple[/u][/b].[b] All members must be verified as "Real" or "VIP" before admittance into the group.
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"Hot Wife" is often used synonymous with the term Cuckold, but it is NOT how most swinger couples view "Hot Wife Play" and not at all what this group is about. Hot Wife Play for most of the swingers we know in Salt Lake City, is where the husband feels he has the hottest woman in the world, and wants to share her, and the wife enjoys all the erotic attention his devotion and fantasy creates for her. When in the mood, swinger couples are not looking for a sexual replacement for the husband, but rather a sex life enhancement adventure to share that includes a single man. The single man lucky enough to be a part of this sort of thing must be very respectful. The stuff of fantasy! Not all men measure up. Our wives don't want to be with physically or emotionally mediocre men. Husbands don't want to watch their wives with mediocre men. Polite, respectful, attractive, intelligent and good humored single men can do well in the swing community.
Single men need to take the emphasis off of "Hot Wife" as a singular devotion or lifestyle for couples that say "yes" to single men. Consider it more of a fantasy and a pleasure for couples to make a reality, when and if, that is what they desire, and a single man can be part of that reality. Couples swing in other realms and often prefer couples hook ups most of the time. In other words, let's not consider it any more than what it is, a fantasy, and a possible reality that couples can use to hopefully enhance their relationship and single men can use to have sex with an incredibly passionate and orgasmic woman. Swinger couples, like us, sometimes wish to focus our attention on our hot wife's sexual fulfillment. She is so sexy that watching her in passion's full embrace, with another man can be extremely rewarding and erotic. As for me I watch until I can no longer wait to join in and ravish her.
When a woman is just so sexually hot, that she is a gift to the world, and her passions and her orgasms cross over into the realm of the sacred, then encouraging select gentlemen, to join in such divine worship of a hot wife's sexuality is a total fucking blast!! That is what this group is about!!
Additional tips for single men wishing to join the group :
Look good
Smell good
Have a sense of humor
Be respectful
Don't be pushy
Don't be whiny
Be patient
Be honest
Be healthy
Be confident
Be willing to host"
[/quote] we were unaware of this group and would love to be added
Swinging versus poly/open - - Off topic just a bit. This site is the primary online gathering spot for swingers, here in Utah. New memberships keep it going. If some of the Ole Timey swingers get a bit frustrated with these new upstart free thinking free loving millennial types, just remember they are keeping your site open. I mean I understand, how can they even put their car keys in the bowl for the wife swap, when they came in an Uber?
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