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I’m defense of single males - Funny old geezers - [quote=DELICIOUSLYWET][quote=PARTYINLV]We are in our sixth year on this site. We are also currently on three more sites, even after dropping two more. When we joined Swingular, we were taken aback from the negativity toward single guys. We did not see this this level of animosity on any other of the sites we are or were on. Aside from the folks from Idaho and Wyoming (and very, very few nationwide), this site is predominately Utah based. I am not negatively judging Utah since a survey or research was never done, but we had to wonder if this hatred is a Utah thing. Or was it a few couples who made it seem normal to hate and everyone just jumped on the bandwagon? Human history has taught us that ostracizing is easier than accepting. Who knows? We certainly don't understand it. Many couples correctly point out that single guys are not [b]"swingers"[/b] since they don't swap. But, we believe that single guys are part of the [b]"lifestyle"[/b] for many couples. Why is fmf ok, but mfm is not ok? As a side note: The vast majority of our play is with couples(our preference). But we occasionally like mfm for the different dynamics it offers. We have been very lucky with mfm and haven't had a bad experience yet, which I cannot say is always true with every couple we've met.[/quote] We live here. Our experience is that most couples do not hate single men. Most married men are not intimidated by the presence of single men. Most couples and singles whether super active or rarely active in the lifestyle don’t post anything in the forum section of this website. As is the case with so much on the internet, a few of us that do read or post in the forums, may give others the impression that we are a good general representation of the community’s mindset. Obviously we aren’t. What we read here is mostly just personal preferences. There are some thoughts expressed that we find interesting, sometimes enlightening. Sometimes people are just venting. Sometimes it’s angry venting stemming from personal experience. As for insecurities, we all have at least a few.[/quote] Perhaps I am just mistaking the complaints I see in forums on the home page as a reflection of the general attitude here

Kik group for UT swingers. - Contact me if your interested in joining a KIK group for Swingers - Hi good morning, excellent idea. My kik is athleticmaleutah1

How close is too close - - If you have problems in your marriage, swinging is not going to fix them. I think the excitment of swinging will, perhaps, camoflage them for a short time. But in the long run if there are problems the level of trust that is required to swing -- just will not be there. But I wonder how our statistics compare to the general public? Are swinging couples getting divorced at a higher or lower rate? Comparing our swinging friends with our vanilla friends, the swingers seem far more happy with and into their mate. The scenarios and issues raised by this question, happen in and out of swinging. Remember the joke -- "my wife ran off with my best friend, and boy I am going to miss him". That is a vanilla life joke. We all need to take care to respect the intimate relationship between other swinging couples. We should all expect others to respect our relationship with our spouse. But in the end, if you trust each other enough to swing successfully, then I think the other issues of life will prove to be fairly easy to handle together.

Utah Nude Beach Sunday - hike first then time at the beach - [quote=EVILDOERS][quote=EBONYANDIVORY]Sounds fun! [/quote] Sunning au natural on the beach or shooting naked people? [em]Emo_84[/em] [/quote] Well of course they both sound fun, and they go together, naked, shooting sexy swingers with my high powered water wiener,the sneek up part is the fun part, have got to get close for the kill shot because it will lose its velocity after about 3 feet and wont do much damage.

Swingers In Uniform - Pay your memorial day respects here. - We would like to give thanks for everyone including both of our fathers who has ever served for our country and would like to have comemerance for the families of all the soldiers we have unfortunatly lost in this war the last war and for the next one (hopefully not anytime soon but i'm sure will happen again ) we would like to take time out of our busy lives for everyone to have a moment of peace to remember our family, friends, and neibors that are still oversea's and have served in the past. any one that has ever served or is still serving now deserves nothing but the utmost respect for what they have done or are doing now for our saftey. they are all brave men and women and deserve nothing less. thanks to those who support them and we hope everyone has a wonderfull memorial day!!!

Female sex fantasies. - What do women really think about sex? - We understand and respect that a lot of swingers, possibly more women than men, really don't like comments posted on their profiles. The whole kiss and tell mindset. Still, comments about a couple, at least somewhat verify, that both the wife and the husband are willing partners in this adventure. As for time spent online, there are far fewer wives that seem to spend more time online in this site than their husbands. Once Mrs. Delicious has established a high level of trust in a FWB relationship, be it couples, singles, whatever, she has no problem just giving people her phone number. As for these chat rooms whose names won't show up due to censorship in threads in the forums, or emails within this site, she has had enough creeper experience, that for her it can be a total buzz kill. Let's face it, people who comment in the forums, can and do get jumped on too. Ladies, that do the initial responding to emails get even more abuse. She will get involved online, if someone contacting us really interest her and she feel like it's a safe and sexy possibility. Possibly, that is why far fewer wives seem to comment in the forums. Honestly, isn't it also mostly, for the same reason far more single men have memberships than single women? Men generally tend to be a bit more sex-centric, and women that have similar libidos are at risk, and judged because of it, even by some within this community? As for control, once we meet someone in the flesh, our lady, as is the case with quite a few swinger couples, tends to sit in the driver's seat more often than not. As for our profile, yes, her sex druthers, are very much the cornerstone!

We have heard about it many times........... - Couples that are swingers - Queen, unfortunately your experience isn't so unique. There are a fair number of people who are curious about the lifestyle and in their haste for some experience, neglect to mention whatever hangups they might have. People fear that if they don't throw in the obligatory "we're fun, open minded, and drama free" statement in their profile they'll appeal to a more narrow range of couples and it will take longer to have a first experience. These people aren't always prepared for what's going to happen and I guess they just *hope* everything will work out okay - a very vulnerable state of mind. This is why there are a few questions I try to harp on numerous times before meeting a couple regardless of what their profile states: Are you D&D free, herps free, what are your boundaries, is kissing okay, etc, because most peoples' knee jerk response is going to be the answer that they know is "correct" but not necessarily true. The key is to ask multiple times, because some people aren't likely to be honest until they understand that you're working in their best interest. Still, there are some people who will deliberately lie no matter what; there's not much that can be done for them. :! Hopefully your first bad experience will be your last. Good luck!

Here's something Ive been curious about - - I am a SF. I enjoy playing with couples and with single males. I hate the bull shit that single guys on other sites put us single ladies through! Most of the SM's I have met on here have been really respectful and understanding. There have been couples I have met that are not so respectful. To me, swinging is about meeting with like minded people to enjoy yourself. Regardless of if play is involved or not. I enjoy the openness of the lifestyle, the opportunity to meet people who feel the same way I do and the ability to have the option of play if all involved feel so inclined. Whether male or female, swinging is a lifestyle. If they are living that lifestyle, they are swingers in my book.

Only In Utah - - I'm thinking their next series might be called "Mormon Virgins and Swingers". [em]Emo_67[/em]

Recons 6th annual backyard bash! - - Just wanted to say a huge "thanks" to Recon for throwing another Phenomenal backyard party! Everything from The beds in the orchard, the tent, the lighting, the guests, the nudity, the food, the Taco Vendor from the corner of Sears on state...it was perfect! This was the best swingers party we have ever been to! We can't remember much after the second round of margarita's, but the hot, hot, hot people doing the "wiggle" on bed 3 in the orchard is etched in my mind ;) hahahaha! We were Happy to meet new couples, and it was good to see old friends, as well! Recon, we Love you two! Thanks for all your hard work for The 6th annual Summer Back Yard Bash! Xoxo Utsluts :)