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Obama's Roadtrip - - [quote]Fair enough. Then why rely on them for anything that likely wasn't adequately studied?[/quote] Likely just does not do it for me...When the numbers are given AND shown how they were gathered, I tend to believe they are fairly accurate. [quote]Let's take your Pepsi/Coke example. There is likely nothing befuddling about your scenario. Just one possibility: Where are the two Florida products bottled? Maybe it's the water.[/quote] Both bottled locally, it is chalked up to being a preferance thing. In WI, lived there for a while, it was called pop or soda, unless a VERY specific thing was needed, a Mountain Dew for instance. In the south, it is a Coke no matter what it is. If someone in the south offers a Coke, it could be Pepsi, Mountain Dew, Diet Rite, Sam's Club Soda, etc. [quote]I'm glad you agree with the logic. My Bachelor's is in Social Welfare (Psych Minor). Human nature is only a bitch of a thing when you get out there a few standard deviations. The bulk of us are as predictable as rats.[/quote] Believe it or not, I have 2 BA's (econ and int. rel.) with a minor in social work. So I am very aware of social science standards and SOME believe that we're predictable. If you have a smaller sample, we are fairly predictable, especially when the sample is taken from a specific group of people (swingers for instance, better yet, swingers in a specific region), once you get to the larger populations (nationwide for instance), human behavior is not easily quantified. Try being the ONLY conservative in all the social work classes, it was fun! Then again, opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. [quote]I propose that as an economist you are simply looking at things with a limited perspective. [/quote] Possibly, but I also have a rare ability to look at it from an outsider's view.... [quote]There is simply no question that if a person's basic needs (food and shelter) are met, there is less motivation to risk the consequences of violating societal rules.[/quote] I can see the logic of this, however, we are Americans, we always want MORE, we are constantly bombarded with images of MORE, we are constantly told that without MORE we are incomplete, etc. What are the consequences of violating societal rules? Food, shelter, clothing, TV, etc? Really tough there. Look at prisons in Mexico, if your family does not provide, you starve, more than likely. THAT is consequences, it is a deterrant (sp?). IMHO, one of the reasons for our increased crime rates is the lack of public punishment. If every time you turned around, you saw a group of people in black and white stripes mowing lawns, trimming trees, etc. on the side of the road in leg chains, it would cut crime considerably. If they did public executions, it would cut crime dramatically. Then again, I am a staunch supporter of heavy penalties for crimes, especially when they are repeat offenders, most of the social scientists are not. They want more rehab and such, which I also support, BUT only for first timers, not for repeat offenders. Anyway, I am thoroughly enjoying our debate... Next!

New members - Any new members find it hard to meet people on here. - [quote=EVILDOERS]Yes, the lifestyle, like high school, church, and many other things in life that revolve around people in groups large and small, is cliquey. Luckily, many swingers are always on the lookout for fresh meat (that's an impolite way to say people they haven't already fucked) so if you don't mind doing a little homework...and slogging thru a whole BUNCH of profiles, some of which could even be fake...or at least disingenuous, you will eventually find plenty of really awesome people to hang out with and maybe even, if you're lucky, have a little sexy time as well. Nobody ever said this would be easy...they just said it would be worth it! L[quote=EVILDOERS]Yes, the lifestyle, like high school, church, and many other things in life that revolve around people in groups large and small, is cliquey. Luckily, many swingers are always on the lookout for fresh meat (that's an impolite way to say people they haven't already fucked) so if you don't mind doing a little homework...and slogging thru a whole BUNCH of profiles, some of which could even be fake...or at least disingenuous, you will eventually find plenty of really awesome people to hang out with and maybe even, if you're lucky, have a little sexy time as well. Nobody ever said this would be easy...they just said it would be worth it! [em]Emo_12[/em] [/quote][em]Emo_12[/em] [/quote] OMG!That is a wonderful and perfect response

Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - If you choose individually not to play with singles, then that is ok. We all have our preference. However, why try and bad mouth the entire group, in an attempt to demonize them to everyone else or to exclude them from social gatherings. But Don I am not trying to demonize them ALL I did say in my experiance 75 to 80% ... LOL... I just host M&G and meet them there other than spend my time on emails.... and I don't bad mouth the entire single males group...... trust me I do give them a chance when writting to me... now if right of the bat I get can we chat on yahoo?... can we trade pics?... I say...pics for what?... you can see mine on here... I say am sorry but I don't think we are a match... now if it was like that pesky one this morning I say FU I already blocked you for a reason.... I host M&G's ever month over here... last time we had 3 cpls and and 10 single guys in my room... so obviously I don't push them all away.... Now Uluv...... he seems like a preatty decent, respectfull guy... but he is not our type, that is all... and I don't think we are his type either... so you see we all have our preferance when it comes to who we are going to take to the room, car, beach, rooftop ...lol

New Meet and Mingle Party House - Is there interest in the northern counties? - Hi 🙋🏽‍♂️ We’re putting out the feelers for interest in a new meet and mingle party house located in Weber county. This will be a selective group of COUPLES ONLY that we would like to put together... if it goes well we would have regular meet and mingles moving forward. This is an option we’d like to have in the northern counties without having to go to a club and advertise to the public that it’s a “swingers” hangout. Couples from farther counties are welcome. We’d like to keep things more discreet and selective in the people that attend, and hopefully make a good group of LS friends in the process. There would be a screening process. We’ll need to know who is coming (face pics) so there are no coworkers showing up at our door that have already seen our nekkid pics on Swingular. That would be a sexual harassment HR nightmare 😂 You can private message with questions, or reply to this thread if you’re interested. Again, if you’re gun shy about providing face pics, this party isn’t for you. We’ll keep an RSVP list of people attending and provide it to the others that have RSVPd, so they can see who they’ll be mingling with. We will not provide face pics to other couples. Just the usernames. Thanks for reading, and happy adventures to all you sexy people 🙂

seniors - why is it so difficult to find senior swingers or single ladies? - ThoughtGarden, you are so "right on"! KarKar, loved your comments. Anytime Babe!

Burnt out from searching - - [quote=EVILDOERS][quote=ThroughTheVeil]Maybe the problem is that you're shooting too high? I mean, don't get me wrong, everyone has their preferences, and at the end of the day, you shouldn't do anything (or anyone) you don't want to, but were in a similar boat of having to reach out a lot and getting rejected, a lot... even after making quick contact (or even longer contact) with a couple. Now if we didn't care who we met up with, we'r would have a different couple every night we had free time and some to spare, so having standards is important for time management also. What I'm saying is, if you're frustrated with how little (quality) contact, maybe you should give more people the benefit of the doubt. I can think of couples that we initiated contact, 4 or 5 times before meeting, and then when we finally did, had a great time and became good friends, but that also meant reaching out to couples 6 or 7 times before realizing we were wasting our time swallowing our pride over them.[/quote] The Lord and Lady of the Veil (Vale?) make a very good point. We've found that MANY swingers (Ourselves included.) are somewhat predispositioned (Yes, I know that's not really a word.) to constantly be on the lookout for what we might consider the perfect or ideal couple/connection and thus ignore people we might actually end up having a fairly great connection with because they didn't check one of our boxes for things thought we were looking for. Far too often it's too easy to overlook a good or even great couple when searching for the perfect one (That might not actually exist!). How much great or even just good sex might we be passing up in the pursuit of perfect sex? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯[/quote] Very well said and obvious to many and acknowledged by few. We decided after the 1st couple of years the perfect couple may not look like the perfect couple but if we had a great connection it did not matter. Wildcouple88 we live in Houston and have never had a response from anyone in our area. We have met many great couples in SLC area when we cum in for about 8 weeks a year in the winter to ski.

St. Petersberg, Florida - - I am sure you will find some place to party at....Love the pics: too funny on the captions. I think there is a place called Taste-Buds not sure if it is still kickin or not? There is also a place called Playfull Swingers. These are two Clubs in the Florida area we know or knew of. Playfull Swingers is a pretty cool bar with theme rooms and a nice dance floor. BTW. maybe you can hit them with an email and see what is happening over there? If these are not in the area you are going to be you can google swingers and the city you are going to be in. We tried to contact some folks on here before we went to Florida to find out a few hot spots but no one bothered to write back? I guess looks are important even when giving someone a heads up or point in the right direction? Regards, HandM

Jewellery, logos, etc to identify other swingers - We would like info on websites catering to discreet items to let others "know" we are in the lifestyle - Another site, SDC sends its members a pin with a butterfly and SDC on it. If there is another around we will sure know it. :-)

Stabbing at swingers party? - - A stabbing in Herriman over the weekend has the media reporting it was a "swingers party". I am assuming this is because as the news reports a few couples "got frisky" in the basement, causing several people to reportedly leave and return less than an hour later and stab the party's 22-year old host. The three suspects were all 20 to 22 years old, also. Does anyone know anything about this? Was it a vanilla party gone wrong in a drunken moment, causing some guys to get extremely jealous and now the media is blowing this up to be a "swingers" party? Or was it really a swingers party?

Swingers In Uniform - Pay your memorial day respects here. - I may have steped out of line here but I still wanted everyone to know, I just sent this to the asshole (DON_JUAN_QUIXOTE) with all the remarks about the Military. Sir and I use that term loosely, you obvesely have no clue what the F' your speaking about and I can't help but think you are quite possible a F'in Democrat. It's only fair to assume (and we all know what that means) that you don't believe in anything George Bush or any other Rep. has to say. We have to agree with the rest that you TRUELY do not UNDERSTAND what you really have because of people like myself who go to work everyday in the MILITARY. We may not DIRECTLY save your life but when some asshole like on the day of 9-11 comes knocking on your door I am sure you will again be one of the first to cuss us again because we're NOT THERE to save your ASS. Personally if I was there I'may just have to sit back and say "have you ever heard of the "Just Due Process" you know what I'm talking about. Like when a child rapist goes to jail, as soon as the inmates find out what's he there for, he only has one way to go, be a BITCH for everyone else or die. Well I'd have to say you fit right into that mold. Sincerly MSGT USAF